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Alex[_15_] April 20th 18 11:46 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0


Tim April 21st 18 12:12 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Alex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

.......

I think my heart drs took training at those dealerships.


True North[_2_] April 21st 18 02:47 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0


D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.

Bill[_12_] April 21st 18 03:59 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0


D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a
2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5
year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat.
Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


Why change vehicles when you stop towing a boat? Just drive the highlander
till it gets old and dies. Save a lot of Loonies.


justan April 21st 18 12:26 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Bill Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0


D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a
2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5
year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat.
Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


Why change vehicles when you stop towing a boat? Just drive the highlander
till it gets old and dies. Save a lot of Loonies.



He'd be better off using uber and renting a truck when he decides
to move the boat around. City dwellas rarely need a car and he
wouldn't even need to rent a truck if he stored his boat at a
marina.
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Keyser Soze April 21st 18 01:25 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0


D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.

Bill[_12_] April 21st 18 05:30 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a
2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5
year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat.
Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


Why change vehicles when you stop towing a boat? Just drive the highlander
till it gets old and dies. Save a lot of Loonies.



He'd be better off using uber and renting a truck when he decides
to move the boat around. City dwellas rarely need a car and he
wouldn't even need to rent a truck if he stored his boat at a
marina.



About 5000 miles a year. Trade in the highlander and look at really high
per mile cost. Probably rent a limousine rates.


True North[_2_] April 21st 18 05:42 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 13:30:28 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a
2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5
year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat.
Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


Why change vehicles when you stop towing a boat? Just drive the highlander
till it gets old and dies. Save a lot of Loonies.



He'd be better off using uber and renting a truck when he decides
to move the boat around. City dwellas rarely need a car and he
wouldn't even need to rent a truck if he stored his boat at a
marina.



About 5000 miles a year. Trade in the highlander and look at really high
per mile cost. Probably rent a limousine rates.


Dog wouldn't like that. He expects to be driven to his favourite park at least three times a week. We do have 'Share a car' here. You join up and pay an hourly rate to use the community vehicle.

True North[_2_] April 21st 18 05:45 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 13:30:28 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a
2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5
year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat.
Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


Why change vehicles when you stop towing a boat? Just drive the highlander
till it gets old and dies. Save a lot of Loonies.



He'd be better off using uber and renting a truck when he decides
to move the boat around. City dwellas rarely need a car and he
wouldn't even need to rent a truck if he stored his boat at a
marina.



About 5000 miles a year. Trade in the highlander and look at really high
per mile cost. Probably rent a limousine rates.


Old original colonial era city streets tend to be narrow and a bit congested. Think Boston on a smaller scale. A Subaru Forester had great visibility and it's smaller footprint would make parking etc a bit easier around town.

True North[_2_] April 21st 18 05:46 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 09:25:04 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0


D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.


The RAV4 rates a bit more reliable and I'm not sure if I'd like the CV transmission...otherwise the Forester would probably be at the top of my list.

Keyser Soze April 21st 18 05:50 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On 4/21/18 12:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 09:25:04 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.


The RAV4 rates a bit more reliable and I'm not sure if I'd like the CV transmission...otherwise the Forester would probably be at the top of my list.


I was thinking of getting my wife a Subaru Forester when she wanted to
get a new car last year, but the Toyota dealer won out because his store
was close-by.

True North[_2_] April 21st 18 06:06 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 13:50:27 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/21/18 12:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 09:25:04 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.


The RAV4 rates a bit more reliable and I'm not sure if I'd like the CV transmission...otherwise the Forester would probably be at the top of my list.


I was thinking of getting my wife a Subaru Forester when she wanted to
get a new car last year, but the Toyota dealer won out because his store
was close-by.


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any towing so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.

Bill[_12_] April 21st 18 06:08 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/21/18 12:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 09:25:04 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in
a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my
5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a
boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.


The RAV4 rates a bit more reliable and I'm not sure if I'd like the CV
transmission...otherwise the Forester would probably be at the top of my list.


I was thinking of getting my wife a Subaru Forester when she wanted to
get a new car last year, but the Toyota dealer won out because his store
was close-by.


No wonder you people have financial problems.


Keyser Söze April 21st 18 07:09 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/21/18 12:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 09:25:04 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in
a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my
5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a
boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.

The RAV4 rates a bit more reliable and I'm not sure if I'd like the CV
transmission...otherwise the Forester would probably be at the top of my list.


I was thinking of getting my wife a Subaru Forester when she wanted to
get a new car last year, but the Toyota dealer won out because his store
was close-by.


No wonder you people have financial problems.



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justan April 21st 18 07:54 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
True North Wrote in message:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 13:50:27 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/21/18 12:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 09:25:04 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.

The RAV4 rates a bit more reliable and I'm not sure if I'd like the CV transmission...otherwise the Forester would probably be at the top of my list.


I was thinking of getting my wife a Subaru Forester when she wanted to
get a new car last year, but the Toyota dealer won out because his store
was close-by.


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any towing so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.


Ihave one and I like it. Just as comfortable as my Lincoln but it
sits much higher. Kind of important for us old folks.

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justan April 21st 18 07:55 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Keyser Sze Wrote in message:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/21/18 12:46 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 09:25:04 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/20/18 9:47 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in
a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my
5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a
boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


I know a couple of guys with that Subaru model, and they love 'em.

The RAV4 rates a bit more reliable and I'm not sure if I'd like the CV
transmission...otherwise the Forester would probably be at the top of my list.


I was thinking of getting my wife a Subaru Forester when she wanted to
get a new car last year, but the Toyota dealer won out because his store
was close-by.


No wonder you people have financial problems.



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[email protected] April 21st 18 08:33 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any towing so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.


My FIL is in a Jeep Cherokee after someone backed into his Cadillac in
a parking lot and they are fixing it. The strange thing is he says he
likes the Jeep better than his new Caddy.
That would be an interesting trade.
Maybe not that unusual tho. I traded a Corvette in on a Jeep.

True North[_2_] April 21st 18 09:20 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 


On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT), True North*
wrote:*


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. *They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.*
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any towing so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.*


"My FIL is in a Jeep Cherokee after someone backed into his Cadillac in*
a parking lot and they are fixing it. The strange thing is he says he*
likes the Jeep better than his new Caddy.*
That would be an interesting trade.*
Maybe not that unusual tho. I traded a Corvette in on a Jeep."


He might want to check the long term reliability ratings if he plans on keeping his vehicles past the warranty period.


Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 21st 18 09:31 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On 4/21/2018 4:20 PM, True North wrote:


On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. *They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any towing so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.


"My FIL is in a Jeep Cherokee after someone backed into his Cadillac in
a parking lot and they are fixing it. The strange thing is he says he
likes the Jeep better than his new Caddy.
That would be an interesting trade.
Maybe not that unusual tho. I traded a Corvette in on a Jeep."


He might want to check the long term reliability ratings if he plans on keeping his vehicles past the warranty period.



My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.



Tim April 21st 18 10:25 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 21st 18 10:44 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On 4/21/2018 5:25 PM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.



Damn thing has a display as big as my bedroom TV filled with
"stuff" to turn on/off or adjust. Told her to be careful with it and
keep her eyes on the road.

It has a peppy V6 but also has the feature that turns the engine
off when you stop for a red light or something. Starts up again
when you take your foot off the brake.

Fortunately, there's a button that allows you to disable that
feature. It would drive me nuts.



[email protected] April 21st 18 11:59 PM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 14:25:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.

Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.


===

Fiat = Fix It Again Tony.

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[email protected] April 22nd 18 12:11 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 13:20:30 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:



On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT), True North*
wrote:*


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. *They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.*
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any towing

so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.*

"My FIL is in a Jeep Cherokee after someone backed into his Cadillac in*
a parking lot and they are fixing it. The strange thing is he says he*
likes the Jeep better than his new Caddy.*
That would be an interesting trade.*
Maybe not that unusual tho. I traded a Corvette in on a Jeep."


He might want to check the long term reliability ratings if he plans on keeping his vehicles past the warranty period.


He doesn't keep them much longer than the windshield washer fluid
lasts.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 22nd 18 12:14 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On 4/21/2018 6:59 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 14:25:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.


===

Fiat = Fix It Again Tony.

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I am sure I've mentioned this before but we had a Fiat 850 Spyder in
Italy. It was only a couple of years old, so it ran fine. We had
a blast with it, driving all over Italy. Of course, it was before
we had kids although Mrs.E. was pregnant with our first.

Don't know if this will work, but I'll give it a try:

http://oi66.tinypic.com/vr90uu.jpg



[email protected] April 22nd 18 12:14 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 16:31:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/21/2018 4:20 PM, True North wrote:


On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. *They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any

towing so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.

"My FIL is in a Jeep Cherokee after someone backed into his Cadillac in
a parking lot and they are fixing it. The strange thing is he says he
likes the Jeep better than his new Caddy.
That would be an interesting trade.
Maybe not that unusual tho. I traded a Corvette in on a Jeep."


He might want to check the long term reliability ratings if he plans on keeping his vehicles past the warranty period.



My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.


Sounds like the one my FIL is in now. He says it has all of the
doodads his Caddy has and he can see out of it better.
This would be the first time he didn't own a GM since his Model A.

[email protected] April 22nd 18 12:16 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:44:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/21/2018 5:25 PM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.



Damn thing has a display as big as my bedroom TV filled with
"stuff" to turn on/off or adjust. Told her to be careful with it and
keep her eyes on the road.

It has a peppy V6 but also has the feature that turns the engine
off when you stop for a red light or something. Starts up again
when you take your foot off the brake.

Fortunately, there's a button that allows you to disable that
feature. It would drive me nuts.


I think they do stuff like that to pump up the MPG rating. I agree, it
would be like driving a gas golf cart.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 22nd 18 12:18 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On 4/21/2018 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 16:31:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/21/2018 4:20 PM, True North wrote:


On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. *They have a shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any

towing so I said no sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.

"My FIL is in a Jeep Cherokee after someone backed into his Cadillac in
a parking lot and they are fixing it. The strange thing is he says he
likes the Jeep better than his new Caddy.
That would be an interesting trade.
Maybe not that unusual tho. I traded a Corvette in on a Jeep."


He might want to check the long term reliability ratings if he plans on keeping his vehicles past the warranty period.



My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.


Sounds like the one my FIL is in now. He says it has all of the
doodads his Caddy has and he can see out of it better.
This would be the first time he didn't own a GM since his Model A.



You should let him drive *your* model "A" and see if he likes it better.
:-)



Mr. Luddite[_4_] April 22nd 18 12:22 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On 4/21/2018 7:16 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:44:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/21/2018 5:25 PM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.



Damn thing has a display as big as my bedroom TV filled with
"stuff" to turn on/off or adjust. Told her to be careful with it and
keep her eyes on the road.

It has a peppy V6 but also has the feature that turns the engine
off when you stop for a red light or something. Starts up again
when you take your foot off the brake.

Fortunately, there's a button that allows you to disable that
feature. It would drive me nuts.


I think they do stuff like that to pump up the MPG rating. I agree, it
would be like driving a gas golf cart.



I think it's more to reduce emissions. My daughter told me that
the Jeep dealer said that *all* cars will be required to have that
feature sometime in the future.

My truck drops two cylinders (from 6 to 4) when coasting or when
very light pressure is on the gas pedal. I think that's for MPG
betterment. Doesn't bother me because it's seamless and I can't
feel it shift from 6 to 4 or back again.



Bill[_12_] April 22nd 18 01:01 AM

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/21/2018 4:20 PM, True North wrote:


On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:06:39 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


I can walk to either but the Toyota dealer is closer. *They have a
shuttle service if the weather is bad, I'm in a hurry or I just feel lazy.
Last week our Highlander was in to get the passenger side and hood
painted because of a Christmas Day high wind event that bombarded us
with roof shingles. Insurance provided a vehicle for the week. I had
asked for a Forester but they wanted to give me a Nissan Pathfinder as
an equivalent replacement. I wan't planning any towing so I said no
sir. Ended up with a Ford Edge, which didn't impress me much.


"My FIL is in a Jeep Cherokee after someone backed into his Cadillac in
a parking lot and they are fixing it. The strange thing is he says he
likes the Jeep better than his new Caddy.
That would be an interesting trade.
Maybe not that unusual tho. I traded a Corvette in on a Jeep."


He might want to check the long term reliability ratings if he plans on
keeping his vehicles past the warranty period.



My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.




Not bad for a Ferrari. ;). Probably more dependable.


Bill[_12_] April 22nd 18 01:07 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:44:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/21/2018 5:25 PM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.



Damn thing has a display as big as my bedroom TV filled with
"stuff" to turn on/off or adjust. Told her to be careful with it and
keep her eyes on the road.

It has a peppy V6 but also has the feature that turns the engine
off when you stop for a red light or something. Starts up again
when you take your foot off the brake.

Fortunately, there's a button that allows you to disable that
feature. It would drive me nuts.


I think they do stuff like that to pump up the MPG rating. I agree, it
would be like driving a gas golf cart.


My Volt does that. But since I think the gas motor just supply’s an
electrical supply to electric drive motors, and super quiet, never notice
the motor turning of. I think there is always enough battery to get going
when the gas motor turns off.


Tim April 22nd 18 01:35 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Damn thing has a display as big as my bedroom TV filled with
"stuff" to turn on/off or adjust. Told her to be careful with it and
keep her eyes on the road.

It has a peppy V6 but also has the feature that turns the engine
off when you stop for a red light or something. Starts up again
when you take your foot off the brake.

Fortunately, there's a button that allows you to disable that
feature. It would drive me nuts.

..............

I remember vw experimented with that feature in the early 70s. It was a ploy to raise overall fueled economy and cut pollution. Didn’t go over well.
I see Jeep is offering it as well as offering a solution if you want out.

Tim April 22nd 18 01:39 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Mr. Luddite
On 4/21/2018 6:59 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 14:25:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.


===

Fiat = Fix It Again Tony.

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I am sure I've mentioned this before but we had a Fiat 850 Spyder in
Italy. It was only a couple of years old, so it ran fine. We had
a blast with it, driving all over Italy. Of course, it was before
we had kids although Mrs.E. was pregnant with our first.

Don't know if this will work, but I'll give it a try:

http://oi66.tinypic.com/vr90uu.jpg

...............


I still have a brand new starter for one of those around my shop somewhere.

Alex[_15_] April 22nd 18 02:11 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


Low miles for sure. The liquor store must be close to you house.

Alex[_15_] April 22nd 18 02:20 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Damn thing has a display as big as my bedroom TV filled with
"stuff" to turn on/off or adjust. Told her to be careful with it and
keep her eyes on the road.

It has a peppy V6 but also has the feature that turns the engine
off when you stop for a red light or something. Starts up again
when you take your foot off the brake.

Fortunately, there's a button that allows you to disable that
feature. It would drive me nuts.

.............

I remember vw experimented with that feature in the early 70s. It was a ploy to raise overall fueled economy and cut pollution. Didn’t go over well.
I see Jeep is offering it as well as offering a solution if you want out.


BMW has had it for years. It's always off unless you select "ECO"
mode. When you start the car it defaults to "Comfort" mode.


Tim April 22nd 18 02:25 AM

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Alex
- show quoted text -
BMW has had it for years. It's always off unless you select "ECO"
mode. When you start the car it defaults to "Comfort" mode.


———-

My wife’s last two CRVs had ECO buttons. I asked the salesman about it he snapped back “Don’t touch it- just leave it alone!”

Oh-Kay

Never did know what it did.

True North[_2_] April 22nd 18 02:44 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 22:11:34 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0

D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.


Low miles for sure. The liquor store must be close to you house.


Walking distance...how close is it "to you house"?

True North[_2_] April 22nd 18 02:48 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:14:21 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/21/2018 6:59 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 14:25:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
My daughter just got rid of her little Jeep Liberty in favor of a 2019
Jeep Cherokee. Thing is loaded with every option imaginable ... too
much, IMO.

But, it's not bad for a Fiat.
———————
Keep- Just Empty Every Pocket.


===

Fiat = Fix It Again Tony.

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This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com



I am sure I've mentioned this before but we had a Fiat 850 Spyder in
Italy. It was only a couple of years old, so it ran fine. We had
a blast with it, driving all over Italy. Of course, it was before
we had kids although Mrs.E. was pregnant with our first.

Don't know if this will work, but I'll give it a try:

http://oi66.tinypic.com/vr90uu.jpg



Closest I came to owning a Fiat was my 4 door Lada sedan. It was based on the Fiat 124. Seems the Fiat people sold the rights to the Russians to build their copy.
Mrs E looks right at home over there with that Italian sports car.

[email protected] April 22nd 18 03:05 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:35:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Damn thing has a display as big as my bedroom TV filled with
"stuff" to turn on/off or adjust. Told her to be careful with it and
keep her eyes on the road.

It has a peppy V6 but also has the feature that turns the engine
off when you stop for a red light or something. Starts up again
when you take your foot off the brake.

Fortunately, there's a button that allows you to disable that
feature. It would drive me nuts.

.............

I remember vw experimented with that feature in the early 70s. It was a ploy to raise overall fueled economy and cut pollution. Didn’t go over well.
I see Jeep is offering it as well as offering a solution if you want out.


GM tried the 4-6-8 feature too where they started blocking off
cylinders and that went away pretty fast too.

Tim April 22nd 18 03:09 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:35:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
- show quoted text -
GM tried the 4-6-8 feature too where they started blocking off
cylinders and that went away pretty fast too.
...........

Yes, burned hoods or total fire.

Alex[_15_] April 22nd 18 03:22 AM

Salesman lesson for Don White
 
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 21 April 2018 22:11:34 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 20 April 2018 19:46:48 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpMe36GoW0
D'oh...nothing new there.
My salesman called me a couple weeks ago to see if I was interested in a 2018 Highlander. Told him no. I only have 44,400 kilometers on my 5 year old 2013 Highlander and it will do unless I give up towing a boat. Then a nice new RAV4 truck or a Subaru Forester will take care of my needs.

Low miles for sure. The liquor store must be close to you house.

Walking distance...how close is it "to you house"?


Good catch! I didn't think you would get that one. I considered
"youse" but that would fall short of a typo. See if you can catch the
mistake in this post. It's a lot harder.



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