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On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT), True North
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Kalif Swill guzzles....

"At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike
Congress."


Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"?

Trump had no access to tax money at the time.


I'm sure when Donnie sobers up he will realize his mistake.
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:07:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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Your description of Trump family sounds like a sanitized description of the
Kennedy family. Which Democrats love.

The difference is when they were threatened by a scandal the Kennedys
had the woman killed or killed them themselves.


Rumor has it the Clintons are of like mindset.
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
True North wrote:
Kalif Swill guzzles....

"At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike
Congress."


Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"?


Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker


Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors.
"For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar."
Hamlet

//////


Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up?


My “not� missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a
spell checker? I assume you required a “d� on petar.
Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return
the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement?

From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks
about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more
than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs.
As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt
they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like
most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and
intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she
wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies.



We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to
protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information.

I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility
was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the
engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them
to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major
contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a
competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were
friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he
was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I
had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman,
he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and
told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract.

It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved.

That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she
can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might
create a precedent that actually affects something important.
IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant
level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive
material beyond inventories and customer lists.
When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and
other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They
also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with
a "package" but that did not survive a challenge.

On 4/11/2018 10:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
True North wrote:
Kalif Swill guzzles....

"At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike
Congress."


Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"?


Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker


Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors.
"For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar."
Hamlet

//////


Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up?


My “not� missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a
spell checker? I assume you required a “d� on petar.
Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return
the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement?

From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks
about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more
than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs.
As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt
they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like
most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and
intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she
wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies.



We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to
protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information.

I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility
was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the
engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them
to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major
contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a
competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were
friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he
was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I
had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman,
he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and
told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract.

It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved.

That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she
can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might
create a precedent that actually affects something important.
IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant
level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive
material beyond inventories and customer lists.
When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and
other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They
also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with
a "package" but that did not survive a challenge.



Most enforceable business NDAs have a time period that they remain in
force should you leave the company. Usually it's a year.

Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/10/18 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
True North wrote:
Kalif Swill guzzles....

"At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike
Congress."


Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"?


Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker


Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors.
"For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar."
Hamlet

//////


Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up?


My “not� missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a
spell checker? I assume you required a “d� on petar.
Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return
the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement?


D'oh. "Petar" is the way Shakespeare spelled the word. It is for us the
archaic spelling of the word. I see no reason to update Shakespeare's
spelling.


I doubt it is ever used that way this era.



I guess we can justify any misspelling as was used that way at some time
and location.

Bill
- show quoted text -
I guess we can justify any misspelling as was used that way at some time
and location.

,,,,,,,,

Like Harry’s use of “enginer� instead of “engineer�

On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
True North wrote:
Kalif Swill guzzles....

"At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike
Congress."


Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"?


Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker


Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors.
"For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar."
Hamlet

//////


Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up?


My “not� missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a
spell checker? I assume you required a “d� on petar.
Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return
the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement?

From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks
about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more
than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs.
As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt
they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like
most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and
intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she
wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies.



We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to
protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information.

I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility
was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the
engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them
to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major
contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a
competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were
friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he
was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I
had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman,
he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and
told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract.

It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved.

That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she
can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might
create a precedent that actually affects something important.
IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant
level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive
material beyond inventories and customer lists.
When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and
other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They
also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with
a "package" but that did not survive a challenge.



Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and
the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA,
and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump
will.

True North wrote:
The John flushes his head....

"I'm thinking he found a used blow-up doll in the trash."


Threw yours away, eh? I'm guessing that even that wasn't helping your
problem anymore. Sad!


So you did keep a ‘ inflatitable’ doll. Odd that it was Canadian and you
accuse John of being the owner.

On 4/11/18 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/10/18 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
True North wrote:
Kalif Swill guzzles....

"At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike
Congress."


Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"?


Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker


Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors.
"For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar."
Hamlet

//////


Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up?


My “not� missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a
spell checker? I assume you required a “d� on petar.
Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return
the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement?


D'oh. "Petar" is the way Shakespeare spelled the word. It is for us the
archaic spelling of the word. I see no reason to update Shakespeare's
spelling.


I doubt it is ever used that way this era.



I guess we can justify any misspelling as was used that way at some time
and location.



Misspelling? Now that is revealing. You, someone barely literate, is
accusing Shakespeare of not knowing his native tongue. Well, Bilious,
*lots* of words were spelled differently in those days. Petar, and later
petard, were derived from a French word with a totally different meaning
than how the word petard is used today. Shakespeare and his predecessors
and contemporaries lived in times a lot closer to the "importation" of
many words. You'd have a miserable time with Chaucer, another giant of
English literature.

On 4/11/2018 12:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
True North wrote:
Kalif Swill guzzles....

"At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo.
Unlike
Congress."


Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"?


Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker


Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal
prosecutors.
Â*Â*Â* "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own
petar."
Hamlet

//////


Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up?


My “notâ€� missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.Â*Â* Not enough money
to buy a
spell checker?Â* I assume you required a “dâ€� on petar.
Sure she is cooperating, no choice.Â*Â* When is she going to have to
return
the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement?

Â* From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks
about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more
than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs.
As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt
they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like
most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and
intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she
wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies.



We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to
protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information.

I only had to enforce it once.Â* We had a sales guy who's responsibility
was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the
engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them
to the customer.Â* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major
contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a
competitor.Â* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were
friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he
was bidding on the same contract I called foul.Â* When I told him that I
had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman,
he said he'd get back to me.Â*Â* He did, within an hour, apologized and
told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract.

It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved.

That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she
can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might
create a precedent that actually affects something important.
IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant
level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive
material beyond inventories and customer lists.
When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and
other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They
also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with
a "package" but that did not survive a challenge.



Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and
the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA,
and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump
will.Â*


Stormy is the ultimate gold digger.