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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. |
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On 4/11/2018 10:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Most enforceable business NDAs have a time period that they remain in force should you leave the company. Usually it's a year. |
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On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will. ![]() |
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On 4/11/2018 12:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. *** "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.** Not enough money to buy a spell checker?* I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice.** When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? * From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once.* We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer.* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor.* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul.* When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me.** He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will.* ![]() Stormy is the ultimate gold digger. |
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On 4/11/18 12:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/11/2018 12:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. *** "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.** Not enough money to buy a spell checker?* I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice.** When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? * From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once.* We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer.* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor.* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul.* When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me.** He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will.* ![]() Stormy is the ultimate gold digger. I don't get the animus towards Ms. Daniels. She is what she is, and she is perfectly straightforward about it. This differentiates her from Trump, who tries to hide the fact that he is a grifter, and who pretends to be the proper candidate for evangelical christians to support politically. Trump has spent a lifetime screwing people. In her own way, so has Ms. Daniels, but at least she isn't hypocritical about it. |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will. ![]() What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. |
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On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse. Not enough money to buy a spell checker? I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice. When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once. We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer. At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor. I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul. When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me. He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will. ![]() What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. |
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On 4/13/2018 8:23 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/12/18 9:20 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:12:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/11/18 10:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:39:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 4/11/2018 12:55 AM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:30:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Tim wrote: Keyser Soze On 4/10/18 7:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles.... "At least he did no use taxpayer money to pay off the bimbo. Unlike Congress." Are you sure "he did no use taxpayer money"? Bilious bought the cheap spellchecker Oh, and speaking of Stormy...she's cooperating with federal prosecutors. **** "For 'tis the sport to have the enginer / Hoist with his own petar." Hamlet ////// Does that mean she’s gonna blow herself up? My “not” missed the T, what is Harry’s excuse.** Not enough money to buy a spell checker?* I assume you required a “d” on petar. Sure she is cooperating, no choice.** When is she going to have to return the $130 large for breaking the legal agreement? ** From what I have heard it is up to a million every time she speaks about it. If nothing else comes out of this, I bet we find out more than we wanted to know about the enforceability of NDAs. As I said in the other note CBS was pursuing this too although I doubt they are going to the mat for Charley. They do have other NDAs like most big companies, usually surrounding business practices and intellectual property. If Stormy can invalidate hers, just because she wants to, it will send a shudder down the spine of a lot of companies. We had NDAs for some people at the company I had that were designed to protect intellectual property and other proprietary company information. I only had to enforce it once.* We had a sales guy who's responsibility was to coordinate the generation of technical proposals by the engineering department and our price bid for contracts and present them to the customer.* At one point we had submitted a proposal for a major contract and the sales person suddenly left the company to join a competitor.* I knew the president of the competitor ... we actually were friends from past mutual employments ... and when I found out that he was bidding on the same contract I called foul.* When I told him that I had a copy of our proposal with our price, signed by his new salesman, he said he'd get back to me.** He did, within an hour, apologized and told me he had withdrawn his bid for the contract. It was so blatant that I didn't even need to get lawyers involved. That is why we should be taking this stormy thing seriously. If she can get away with breaking her NDA with no consequences it might create a precedent that actually affects something important. IBM had a blanket NDA that you signed but until you got up into plant level hardware support most guys did not really have any sensitive material beyond inventories and customer lists. When I got the source code listings for the microcode in the 4300s and other related docs, I had to sign another, more specific NDA. They also tried to enforce a no compete on the guys who were separated with a "package" but that did not survive a challenge. Yawn, yawn, and yawn. You seem overly concerned about Ms. Daniels and the Trump NDA. There are major questions about the legality of that NDA, and I really doubt Ms. Daniels will face any consequences. But Trump will.* ![]() What would those be about this? The campaign contribution deal does not even pass the laugh test. Other than that they paid off a blackmailer and she still told the story. It certainly sounds like breach of contract if not a blackmail charge. She breached her contract with Cohen,not Trump. That is still a contract. Too funny. Only you and lawyer Michael Cohen seem intent on seeing Ms. Daniels faces "consequences," and at the moment, it seems Cohen has far more serious issues on his plate. A NDA is a contract regardless of who it is with, even more so in this case because there are demonstrable "consideration" given to the parties involved. |
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