What's for Dinner
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the
dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer.

I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small
burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff
in a small pot it is not really a problem.

The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot.

I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I
got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB.

What's for Dinner
 

On 4/16/18 8:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the
dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer.

I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small
burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff
in a small pot it is not really a problem.

The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot.

I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I
got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB.


When we redid the kitchen, we replaced the crappy GE gastop with a
KitchenAid with five burners, all of which seem to "simmer" a pot
properly. The GE was too hot on each of its four burners to simmer.
Fortunately, the twin GE ovens we still have work properly. One of them
is a convection oven, too, but I've never tried that feature.

What's for Dinner
 

wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


1:19 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no
oil. My daughter says they came
out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN
oC
FQmVAQodxyULuw

or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk
:;;;


Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way.

No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it.
I figure I can get along
without one for a few more years.

I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another
gadget I need to store.

That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant
Pot for Christmas. I used it
once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space.

I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a
lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when
you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my
wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate).

Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house
range has a convection
capability, I think, but I've not messed
with it. Maybe one of these days.


Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it
seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas
came out virtually the same.


The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different
temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies
well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing.

What's for Dinner
 

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


1:19 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no
oil. My daughter says they came
out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN
oC
FQmVAQodxyULuw

or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk
:;;;


Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way.

No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it.
I figure I can get along
without one for a few more years.

I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another
gadget I need to store.

That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant
Pot for Christmas. I used it
once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space.

I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a
lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when
you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my
wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate).

Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house
range has a convection
capability, I think, but I've not messed
with it. Maybe one of these days.


Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top
are too hot. Even with the
dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer.


We have the glass surface and the burners could be hotter. We replace a
ceramic top GE, and the surface units were great. Unfortunately the oven
control panel, which fits about 50 models was no longer available.

What's for Dinner
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:44:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/16/18 8:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the
dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer.

I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small
burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff
in a small pot it is not really a problem.

The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot.

I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I
got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB.


When we redid the kitchen, we replaced the crappy GE gastop with a
KitchenAid with five burners, all of which seem to "simmer" a pot
properly. The GE was too hot on each of its four burners to simmer.
Fortunately, the twin GE ovens we still have work properly. One of them
is a convection oven, too, but I've never tried that feature.

I never had that much luck "simmering" on a gas stove. (we always had
gas in DC) Simply the nature of an open flame creates a hot spot. A
very heavy pan mitigates that a bit but it is hard to beat the wide
flat surface of a slick top electric when used with the right pan.
This ends up being more like a crock pot.
The main advantage of gas is when you are using high heat and the
ability to control the heat almost instantly.

What's for Dinner
 

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


1:19 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no
oil. My daughter says they came
out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN
oC
FQmVAQodxyULuw

or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk
:;;;


Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way.

No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it.
I figure I can get along
without one for a few more years.

I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another
gadget I need to store.

That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant
Pot for Christmas. I used it
once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space.

I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a
lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when
you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my
wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate).

Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house
range has a convection
capability, I think, but I've not messed
with it. Maybe one of these days.


Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it
seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas
came out virtually the same.


The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different
temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies
well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing.

Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall duo convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart.

As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven.

How long have you had your oven?

What's for Dinner
 

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:36:52 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:44:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/16/18 8:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the
dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer.

I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small
burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff
in a small pot it is not really a problem.

The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot.

I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I
got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB.


When we redid the kitchen, we replaced the crappy GE gastop with a
KitchenAid with five burners, all of which seem to "simmer" a pot
properly. The GE was too hot on each of its four burners to simmer.
Fortunately, the twin GE ovens we still have work properly. One of them
is a convection oven, too, but I've never tried that feature.

I never had that much luck "simmering" on a gas stove. (we always had
gas in DC) Simply the nature of an open flame creates a hot spot. A
very heavy pan mitigates that a bit but it is hard to beat the wide
flat surface of a slick top electric when used with the right pan.
This ends up being more like a crock pot.
The main advantage of gas is when you are using high heat and the
ability to control the heat almost instantly.

The newer stovetops have improved on their simmer abilities. The flame is lower, and they even have a feature that will re-light them automatically if the flame goes out. We're going with a Dacor on our remodel. The large burner is 18,000 BTU for boiling water or getting something screaming hot. :)

What's for Dinner
 

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:35:16 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


1:19 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no
oil. My daughter says they came
out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN
oC
FQmVAQodxyULuw

or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk
:;;;


Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way.

No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it.
I figure I can get along
without one for a few more years.

I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another
gadget I need to store.

That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant
Pot for Christmas. I used it
once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space.

I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a
lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when
you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my
wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate).

Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house
range has a convection
capability, I think, but I've not messed
with it. Maybe one of these days.


Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it
seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas
came out virtually the same.


The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different
temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies
well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing.

Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall duo convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart.

As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven.

How long have you had your oven?

You are right about the temps. For example; if the upper oven is set at 350F, the lower oven can be
set from 275F to 450F. If upper at 250, then lower can range from 225 to 300. It's not possible to
use the lower oven to keep food warm (say 185F) while roasting something (350) in the top oven.

We've had ours a couple years now.

What's for Dinner
 

Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


1:19 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no
oil. My daughter says they came
out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN
oC
FQmVAQodxyULuw

or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk
:;;;


Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way.

No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it.
I figure I can get along
without one for a few more years.

I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another
gadget I need to store.

That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant
Pot for Christmas. I used it
once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space.

I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a
lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when
you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my
wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate).

Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house
range has a convection
capability, I think, but I've not messed
with it. Maybe one of these days.


Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it
seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas
came out virtually the same.


The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different
temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies
well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing.

Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall
duo convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new
appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's
performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do
different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart.

As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough
that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of
cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven.

How long have you had your oven?


We have had the stove for about 6months. Just seems to be the upper oven
with the cookies. Lower cavity is a little bigger and works fine. I
think you can have about 200 hundred degrees difference in the two
cavities.

What's for Dinner
 

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:35:16 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


1:19 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no
oil. My daughter says they came
out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN
oC
FQmVAQodxyULuw

or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk
:;;;


Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way.

No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it.
I figure I can get along
without one for a few more years.

I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another
gadget I need to store.

That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant
Pot for Christmas. I used it
once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space.

I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a
lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when
you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my
wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate).

Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house
range has a convection
capability, I think, but I've not messed
with it. Maybe one of these days.


Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook
cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you
need a bigger volume to spread out the heat.

That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it
seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas
came out virtually the same.


The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different
temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies
well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing.

Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall duo
convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new
appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's
performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do
different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart.

As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough
that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of
cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven.

How long have you had your oven?

You are right about the temps. For example; if the upper oven is set at
350F, the lower oven can be
set from 275F to 450F. If upper at 250, then lower can range from 225 to
300. It's not possible to
use the lower oven to keep food warm (say 185F) while roasting something
(350) in the top oven.

We've had ours a couple years now.


Ours has a warming drawer at the bottom.