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What's for Dinner
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:38:02 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:07:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:04:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:01:01 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:38:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:15:32 -0400, John H. wrote: Going to give this a shot. https://www.traegergrills.com/recipe...cocked-chicken Donnie, please don't be offended. After all, it's Sunday. Looks good. Sounds like a good place for some smoke. I end up doing that on the gas grille but it is really not a smoker I do throw hickory chips in there tho. I am not that much on the breast meat tho I am a leg man so I cook thigh quarters. It is not spatchcocking tho. I just "Obamize" them (remove the backbone) I'd do nothing but thighs and legs, but my wife won't eat them. She has to have the white meat. My wife says she just likes white meat but when it is boned out, she takes the thighs. I don't use white for any kind of soup type thing but I do use it in parmesan My wife makes a 'chicken chili' in the crockpot with chicken breasts. Have to admit it's pretty damn good. Never did chicken chili but we make turkey chili. It is the way to get rid of a few pounds of left over turkey without eating sandwiches for a week. I've bought the ground turkey and used it for turkey chili several times. I prefer the beef, but there really isn't much difference in the taste of the final product. That is why just about any kind of meat will work. I wouldn't buy turkey just to make chili but we do cook a turkey fairly often throughout the year and it is a great way to use the leftover meat. Same with beef or pork roast. Chili was originally just the pot that hung on the back of the chuck wagon and they threw in whatever they came up with. It was always cooking. |
What's for Dinner
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:09:07 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:38:02 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:07:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:04:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:01:01 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:38:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:15:32 -0400, John H. wrote: Going to give this a shot. https://www.traegergrills.com/recipe...cocked-chicken Donnie, please don't be offended. After all, it's Sunday. Looks good. Sounds like a good place for some smoke. I end up doing that on the gas grille but it is really not a smoker I do throw hickory chips in there tho. I am not that much on the breast meat tho I am a leg man so I cook thigh quarters. It is not spatchcocking tho. I just "Obamize" them (remove the backbone) I'd do nothing but thighs and legs, but my wife won't eat them. She has to have the white meat. My wife says she just likes white meat but when it is boned out, she takes the thighs. I don't use white for any kind of soup type thing but I do use it in parmesan My wife makes a 'chicken chili' in the crockpot with chicken breasts. Have to admit it's pretty damn good. Never did chicken chili but we make turkey chili. It is the way to get rid of a few pounds of left over turkey without eating sandwiches for a week. I've bought the ground turkey and used it for turkey chili several times. I prefer the beef, but there really isn't much difference in the taste of the final product. That is why just about any kind of meat will work. I wouldn't buy turkey just to make chili but we do cook a turkey fairly often throughout the year and it is a great way to use the leftover meat. Same with beef or pork roast. Chili was originally just the pot that hung on the back of the chuck wagon and they threw in whatever they came up with. It was always cooking. It ****es me off that the stores carry fresh turkey only at Thanksgiving. I'd cook one three or four times a year if they could be had. Giant will special order one, but the cost is prohibitive. $45 for a small fresh one is ridiculous. I've got a couple in the freezer from the Christmas sales though. Have to admit the Traeger pellet grill does a nice job on turkeys. |
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:22:45 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:09:07 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:38:02 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:07:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:04:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:01:01 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:38:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:15:32 -0400, John H. wrote: Going to give this a shot. https://www.traegergrills.com/recipe...cocked-chicken Donnie, please don't be offended. After all, it's Sunday. Looks good. Sounds like a good place for some smoke. I end up doing that on the gas grille but it is really not a smoker I do throw hickory chips in there tho. I am not that much on the breast meat tho I am a leg man so I cook thigh quarters. It is not spatchcocking tho. I just "Obamize" them (remove the backbone) I'd do nothing but thighs and legs, but my wife won't eat them. She has to have the white meat. My wife says she just likes white meat but when it is boned out, she takes the thighs. I don't use white for any kind of soup type thing but I do use it in parmesan My wife makes a 'chicken chili' in the crockpot with chicken breasts. Have to admit it's pretty damn good. Never did chicken chili but we make turkey chili. It is the way to get rid of a few pounds of left over turkey without eating sandwiches for a week. I've bought the ground turkey and used it for turkey chili several times. I prefer the beef, but there really isn't much difference in the taste of the final product. That is why just about any kind of meat will work. I wouldn't buy turkey just to make chili but we do cook a turkey fairly often throughout the year and it is a great way to use the leftover meat. Same with beef or pork roast. Chili was originally just the pot that hung on the back of the chuck wagon and they threw in whatever they came up with. It was always cooking. It ****es me off that the stores carry fresh turkey only at Thanksgiving. I'd cook one three or four times a year if they could be had. Giant will special order one, but the cost is prohibitive. $45 for a small fresh one is ridiculous. I've got a couple in the freezer from the Christmas sales though. Have to admit the Traeger pellet grill does a nice job on turkeys. We see fresh ones here from time to time off season but they are more expensive. It is hard to beat those 49 cent/lb loss leaders on the holidays for the frozen one. Our off season price is usually $1.49 frozen, $2.99 and up for fresh. Fresh is better but not $3+ a pound better. In the smoker I doubt it makes that much difference anyway. I have actually read a lot of articles that say a fresh "market" turkey (not some designer bird) is not always better anyway. The frozen one was flash frozen immediately after it was dressed out. That "fresh" one might be well over a month old. "Frozen" and "fresh" are just marketing terms anyway. You can hold a turkey for a couple months at 26 F and still call it fresh. It will be full of ice and hard as a carp. They also do not really have a freeze monitor on them so you are just taking a lot of people's word for it. The main advantage seems to be you don't have to wait for it to thaw out. |
What's for Dinner
wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:22:45 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:09:07 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:38:02 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:07:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:04:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:01:01 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:38:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:15:32 -0400, John H. wrote: Going to give this a shot. https://www.traegergrills.com/recipe...cocked-chicken Donnie, please don't be offended. After all, it's Sunday. Looks good. Sounds like a good place for some smoke. I end up doing that on the gas grille but it is really not a smoker I do throw hickory chips in there tho. I am not that much on the breast meat tho I am a leg man so I cook thigh quarters. It is not spatchcocking tho. I just "Obamize" them (remove the backbone) I'd do nothing but thighs and legs, but my wife won't eat them. She has to have the white meat. My wife says she just likes white meat but when it is boned out, she takes the thighs. I don't use white for any kind of soup type thing but I do use it in parmesan My wife makes a 'chicken chili' in the crockpot with chicken breasts. Have to admit it's pretty damn good. Never did chicken chili but we make turkey chili. It is the way to get rid of a few pounds of left over turkey without eating sandwiches for a week. I've bought the ground turkey and used it for turkey chili several times. I prefer the beef, but there really isn't much difference in the taste of the final product. That is why just about any kind of meat will work. I wouldn't buy turkey just to make chili but we do cook a turkey fairly often throughout the year and it is a great way to use the leftover meat. Same with beef or pork roast. Chili was originally just the pot that hung on the back of the chuck wagon and they threw in whatever they came up with. It was always cooking. It ****es me off that the stores carry fresh turkey only at Thanksgiving. I'd cook one three or four times a year if they could be had. Giant will special order one, but the cost is prohibitive. $45 for a small fresh one is ridiculous. I've got a couple in the freezer from the Christmas sales though. Have to admit the Traeger pellet grill does a nice job on turkeys. We see fresh ones here from time to time off season but they are more expensive. It is hard to beat those 49 cent/lb loss leaders on the holidays for the frozen one. Our off season price is usually $1.49 frozen, $2.99 and up for fresh. Fresh is better but not $3+ a pound better. In the smoker I doubt it makes that much difference anyway. I have actually read a lot of articles that say a fresh "market" turkey (not some designer bird) is not always better anyway. The frozen one was flash frozen immediately after it was dressed out. That "fresh" one might be well over a month old. "Frozen" and "fresh" are just marketing terms anyway. You can hold a turkey for a couple months at 26 F and still call it fresh. It will be full of ice and hard as a carp. They also do not really have a freeze monitor on them so you are just taking a lot of people's word for it. The main advantage seems to be you don't have to wait for it to thaw out. When I was a kid, we had turkey a lot. Mostly fresh as that is what housewife’s makes in Oakland sold. Was tasty, and reasonably priced. And was easy to fix for a couple days meals. Will try turkey chili with the next leftovers. |
What's for Dinner
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 18:46:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:22:45 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:09:07 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:38:02 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:07:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:04:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:01:01 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:38:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:15:32 -0400, John H. wrote: Going to give this a shot. https://www.traegergrills.com/recipe...cocked-chicken Donnie, please don't be offended. After all, it's Sunday. Looks good. Sounds like a good place for some smoke. I end up doing that on the gas grille but it is really not a smoker I do throw hickory chips in there tho. I am not that much on the breast meat tho I am a leg man so I cook thigh quarters. It is not spatchcocking tho. I just "Obamize" them (remove the backbone) I'd do nothing but thighs and legs, but my wife won't eat them. She has to have the white meat. My wife says she just likes white meat but when it is boned out, she takes the thighs. I don't use white for any kind of soup type thing but I do use it in parmesan My wife makes a 'chicken chili' in the crockpot with chicken breasts. Have to admit it's pretty damn good. Never did chicken chili but we make turkey chili. It is the way to get rid of a few pounds of left over turkey without eating sandwiches for a week. I've bought the ground turkey and used it for turkey chili several times. I prefer the beef, but there really isn't much difference in the taste of the final product. That is why just about any kind of meat will work. I wouldn't buy turkey just to make chili but we do cook a turkey fairly often throughout the year and it is a great way to use the leftover meat. Same with beef or pork roast. Chili was originally just the pot that hung on the back of the chuck wagon and they threw in whatever they came up with. It was always cooking. It ****es me off that the stores carry fresh turkey only at Thanksgiving. I'd cook one three or four times a year if they could be had. Giant will special order one, but the cost is prohibitive. $45 for a small fresh one is ridiculous. I've got a couple in the freezer from the Christmas sales though. Have to admit the Traeger pellet grill does a nice job on turkeys. We see fresh ones here from time to time off season but they are more expensive. It is hard to beat those 49 cent/lb loss leaders on the holidays for the frozen one. Our off season price is usually $1.49 frozen, $2.99 and up for fresh. Fresh is better but not $3+ a pound better. In the smoker I doubt it makes that much difference anyway. I have actually read a lot of articles that say a fresh "market" turkey (not some designer bird) is not always better anyway. The frozen one was flash frozen immediately after it was dressed out. That "fresh" one might be well over a month old. "Frozen" and "fresh" are just marketing terms anyway. You can hold a turkey for a couple months at 26 F and still call it fresh. It will be full of ice and hard as a carp. They also do not really have a freeze monitor on them so you are just taking a lot of people's word for it. The main advantage seems to be you don't have to wait for it to thaw out. When I was a kid, we had turkey a lot. Mostly fresh as that is what housewife’s makes in Oakland sold. Was tasty, and reasonably priced. And was easy to fix for a couple days meals. Will try turkey chili with the next leftovers. You guys got me thinking about turkey and I picked up a 13 pounder today (99 cents a pound on sale) |
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7:27 - show quoted text - You guys got me thinking about turkey and I picked up a 13 pounder today (99 cents a pound on sale) ......... I’m about to get an oil boiler and do some turkeys that way. Yes, they are that cheap... |
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On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 12:22:46 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:09:07 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:38:02 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:07:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:04:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:01:01 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:38:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:15:32 -0400, John H. wrote: Going to give this a shot. https://www.traegergrills.com/recipe...cocked-chicken Donnie, please don't be offended. After all, it's Sunday. Looks good. Sounds like a good place for some smoke. I end up doing that on the gas grille but it is really not a smoker I do throw hickory chips in there tho. I am not that much on the breast meat tho I am a leg man so I cook thigh quarters. It is not spatchcocking tho. I just "Obamize" them (remove the backbone) I'd do nothing but thighs and legs, but my wife won't eat them. She has to have the white meat. My wife says she just likes white meat but when it is boned out, she takes the thighs. I don't use white for any kind of soup type thing but I do use it in parmesan My wife makes a 'chicken chili' in the crockpot with chicken breasts. Have to admit it's pretty damn good. Never did chicken chili but we make turkey chili. It is the way to get rid of a few pounds of left over turkey without eating sandwiches for a week. I've bought the ground turkey and used it for turkey chili several times. I prefer the beef, but there really isn't much difference in the taste of the final product. That is why just about any kind of meat will work. I wouldn't buy turkey just to make chili but we do cook a turkey fairly often throughout the year and it is a great way to use the leftover meat. Same with beef or pork roast. Chili was originally just the pot that hung on the back of the chuck wagon and they threw in whatever they came up with. It was always cooking. It ****es me off that the stores carry fresh turkey only at Thanksgiving. I'd cook one three or four times a year if they could be had. Giant will special order one, but the cost is prohibitive. $45 for a small fresh one is ridiculous. I've got a couple in the freezer from the Christmas sales though. Have to admit the Traeger pellet grill does a nice job on turkeys.. I've done a couple of turkey breasts on the pellet grill, but not a whole bird. Reportedly, whole birds don't come out so great, as the wings and such can get leathery while the rest gets done. I like smoking chicken wings with a little seasoning then quick frying them to get them crispy (awesome!) or just doing a whole chicken with minced fresh garlic, lemon juice, chopped fresh rosemary and olive oil rub all over. Grind some black pepper over it, put a couple of lemon halves in the cavity, and you're good to go. Did pig candy yesterday. Gave most of it away at work today. Everyone loves me. :) |
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Tim wrote:
7:27 - show quoted text - You guys got me thinking about turkey and I picked up a 13 pounder today (99 cents a pound on sale) ........ I’m about to get an oil boiler and do some turkeys that way. Yes, they are that cheap... They are good that way. But remember to defrost the bird first! ;) I use my turkey fryer mostly to boil crabs. Frying turkey is expensive if you rarely fry them. The oil, even if not peanut oil is expensive for a 1 or 2 frying times. |
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On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:40:37 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
7:27 - show quoted text - You guys got me thinking about turkey and I picked up a 13 pounder today (99 cents a pound on sale) ........ I’m about to get an oil boiler and do some turkeys that way. Yes, they are that cheap... Get an injector. Turkeys are great fried. Make sure they are *completely* thawed and dried before slowly dunking them in the hot oil. |
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 17:40:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
7:27 - show quoted text - You guys got me thinking about turkey and I picked up a 13 pounder today (99 cents a pound on sale) ........ I’m about to get an oil boiler and do some turkeys that way. Yes, they are that cheap... My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk |
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 17:54:36 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 12:22:46 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:09:07 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:38:02 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:07:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:04:53 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:01:01 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:38:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:15:32 -0400, John H. wrote: Going to give this a shot. https://www.traegergrills.com/recipe...cocked-chicken Donnie, please don't be offended. After all, it's Sunday. Looks good. Sounds like a good place for some smoke. I end up doing that on the gas grille but it is really not a smoker I do throw hickory chips in there tho. I am not that much on the breast meat tho I am a leg man so I cook thigh quarters. It is not spatchcocking tho. I just "Obamize" them (remove the backbone) I'd do nothing but thighs and legs, but my wife won't eat them. She has to have the white meat. My wife says she just likes white meat but when it is boned out, she takes the thighs. I don't use white for any kind of soup type thing but I do use it in parmesan My wife makes a 'chicken chili' in the crockpot with chicken breasts. Have to admit it's pretty damn good. Never did chicken chili but we make turkey chili. It is the way to get rid of a few pounds of left over turkey without eating sandwiches for a week. I've bought the ground turkey and used it for turkey chili several times. I prefer the beef, but there really isn't much difference in the taste of the final product. That is why just about any kind of meat will work. I wouldn't buy turkey just to make chili but we do cook a turkey fairly often throughout the year and it is a great way to use the leftover meat. Same with beef or pork roast. Chili was originally just the pot that hung on the back of the chuck wagon and they threw in whatever they came up with. It was always cooking. It ****es me off that the stores carry fresh turkey only at Thanksgiving. I'd cook one three or four times a year if they could be had. Giant will special order one, but the cost is prohibitive. $45 for a small fresh one is ridiculous. I've got a couple in the freezer from the Christmas sales though. Have to admit the Traeger pellet grill does a nice job on turkeys. I've done a couple of turkey breasts on the pellet grill, but not a whole bird. Reportedly, whole birds don't come out so great, as the wings and such can get leathery while the rest gets done. I like smoking chicken wings with a little seasoning then quick frying them to get them crispy (awesome!) or just doing a whole chicken with minced fresh garlic, lemon juice, chopped fresh rosemary and olive oil rub all over. Grind some black pepper over it, put a couple of lemon halves in the cavity, and you're good to go. Did pig candy yesterday. Gave most of it away at work today. Everyone loves me. :) I've had pretty good luck with the two turkeys I did on the pellet grill. Both were in the 14-15 pound range so not too big. |
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1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk ::::::;;; Say, that’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. |
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk ::::::;;; Say, that’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...d=CKTNusSosNoC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk ::::::;;; Say, that’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. |
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10:10 On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: - hide quoted text - On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...d=CKTNusSosNoC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk ::::::;;; Say, that’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. ...... Well, I know what you’re saying. All the K-Tel trinkets people think they need. We don’t. But, I think this might also be good for a ham. Then again. You can buy the ham and/or turkey from the professional cookeries probably for the same as a DIY and don’t have to store it. You’re probably right Greg. Thanks for talking me out of it. Lol! |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...d=CKTNusSosNoC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk ::::::;;; Say, that’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk ::::::;;; Say, that’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). |
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk ::::::;;; Say, that’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. |
What's for Dinner
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk :;;; Say, thatÂ’s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. |
What's for Dinner
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H. wrote: Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer. I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff in a small pot it is not really a problem. The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot. I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB. |
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On 4/16/18 8:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H. wrote: Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer. I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff in a small pot it is not really a problem. The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot. I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB. When we redid the kitchen, we replaced the crappy GE gastop with a KitchenAid with five burners, all of which seem to "simmer" a pot properly. The GE was too hot on each of its four burners to simmer. Fortunately, the twin GE ovens we still have work properly. One of them is a convection oven, too, but I've never tried that feature. |
What's for Dinner
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk :;;; Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas came out virtually the same. The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing. |
What's for Dinner
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk :;;; Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer. We have the glass surface and the burners could be hotter. We replace a ceramic top GE, and the surface units were great. Unfortunately the oven control panel, which fits about 50 models was no longer available. |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:44:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 4/16/18 8:26 PM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H. wrote: Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer. I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff in a small pot it is not really a problem. The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot. I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB. When we redid the kitchen, we replaced the crappy GE gastop with a KitchenAid with five burners, all of which seem to "simmer" a pot properly. The GE was too hot on each of its four burners to simmer. Fortunately, the twin GE ovens we still have work properly. One of them is a convection oven, too, but I've never tried that feature. I never had that much luck "simmering" on a gas stove. (we always had gas in DC) Simply the nature of an open flame creates a hot spot. A very heavy pan mitigates that a bit but it is hard to beat the wide flat surface of a slick top electric when used with the right pan. This ends up being more like a crock pot. The main advantage of gas is when you are using high heat and the ability to control the heat almost instantly. |
What's for Dinner
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk :;;; Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas came out virtually the same. The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing. Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall duo convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart. As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven. How long have you had your oven? |
What's for Dinner
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:36:52 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:44:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 4/16/18 8:26 PM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:56:59 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:56:56 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:32:01 -0400, John H. wrote: Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That's what we have. I don't like the Samsung because the burners on top are too hot. Even with the dial on the lowest setting, it's very hard to get something to simmer. I have that problem with my slick top Whirlpool but only on the small burners. The big ones will run very low. Since I seldom simmer stuff in a small pot it is not really a problem. The big burners on mine are as bad as the small ones. They're all too damn hot. I have actually been pretty happy with the Whirlpool cook top and I got the inside Centex price on it (like 100 bucks) NIB. When we redid the kitchen, we replaced the crappy GE gastop with a KitchenAid with five burners, all of which seem to "simmer" a pot properly. The GE was too hot on each of its four burners to simmer. Fortunately, the twin GE ovens we still have work properly. One of them is a convection oven, too, but I've never tried that feature. I never had that much luck "simmering" on a gas stove. (we always had gas in DC) Simply the nature of an open flame creates a hot spot. A very heavy pan mitigates that a bit but it is hard to beat the wide flat surface of a slick top electric when used with the right pan. This ends up being more like a crock pot. The main advantage of gas is when you are using high heat and the ability to control the heat almost instantly. The newer stovetops have improved on their simmer abilities. The flame is lower, and they even have a feature that will re-light them automatically if the flame goes out. We're going with a Dacor on our remodel. The large burner is 18,000 BTU for boiling water or getting something screaming hot. :) |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:35:16 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk :;;; Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas came out virtually the same. The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing. Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall duo convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart. As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven. How long have you had your oven? You are right about the temps. For example; if the upper oven is set at 350F, the lower oven can be set from 275F to 450F. If upper at 250, then lower can range from 225 to 300. It's not possible to use the lower oven to keep food warm (say 185F) while roasting something (350) in the top oven. We've had ours a couple years now. |
What's for Dinner
Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk :;;; Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas came out virtually the same. The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing. Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall duo convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart. As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven. How long have you had your oven? We have had the stove for about 6months. Just seems to be the upper oven with the cookies. Lower cavity is a little bigger and works fine. I think you can have about 200 hundred degrees difference in the two cavities. |
What's for Dinner
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:35:16 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:12:28 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:16:03 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:58:27 -0400, John H. wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:09:51 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 07:29:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:34:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 1:19 PMJohn H - show quoted text - My SIL got one of these. Says it does a great job on turkeys with no oil. My daughter says they came out better than the ones I've made - either smoked or grilled. So there. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Butterba...lid=CKTNusSosN oC FQmVAQodxyULuw or: http://tinyurl.com/y9vh63dk :;;; Say, that?s an idea. Save a lot of splatters oil that way. No oil at all. Although he did inject some stuff and put a rub on it. I figure I can get along without one for a few more years. I am not sure what else you do with it. I really don't need another gadget I need to store. That's pretty much the way I feel. One of the kids got me an Instant Pot for Christmas. I used it once. Now it just takes up another cubic foot of cabinet space. I bought a convection oven for the outdoor kitchen and you can do a lot of that roasting stuff in there. It is still just an oven tho when you turn off the fan. It is great for crisping up a roast tho and my wife says it makes perfect cookies (they all cook at the same rate). Most of the new RV's are coming with convection ovens. Our in-house range has a convection capability, I think, but I've not messed with it. Maybe one of these days. Depends on the oven. We have a Samsung duo door. And trying to cook cookies in the small cavity, they get overdone on one side. I think you need a bigger volume to spread out the heat. That is what the convection is supposed to do for you. In mine it seems to work pretty good. My wife made 3 pans of cookies at Christmas came out virtually the same. The Duo Oven has a plate you insert to split the oven in two. Different temps in each oven. The lower cavity is larger and bakes the cookies well. The smaller upper oven I think gets hotter where the fan is blowing. Getting ready to do a kitchen remodel and have picked the Samsung wall duo convection/steam lower and microwave/thermal upper oven as the new appliance. Interesting to hear some real world feedback on it's performance. One thing I had read is that the duo oven can't do different temps in the upper and lower parts that are too far apart. As far as your uneven cookies, maybe the plate restricts airflow enough that the convection isn't as effective? I'd try putting two sheets of cookies in there on convection with no duo plate, serving as one larger oven. How long have you had your oven? You are right about the temps. For example; if the upper oven is set at 350F, the lower oven can be set from 275F to 450F. If upper at 250, then lower can range from 225 to 300. It's not possible to use the lower oven to keep food warm (say 185F) while roasting something (350) in the top oven. We've had ours a couple years now. Ours has a warming drawer at the bottom. |
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