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On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:09:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.


He could loosen the float bowl drain plug and see if there's fuel in the bowl. If it's full, then
the cap wouldn't be the problem, I'd think.

It sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than too much fuel.

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On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:15:53 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:09:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim
may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in
the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.


He could loosen the float bowl drain plug and see if there's fuel in the bowl. If it's full, then
the cap wouldn't be the problem, I'd think.

It sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than too much fuel.

Just take the cap off, but Don said he was running it loose. If you
really want to break the tie, pull the plug as soon as it stalls and
see if it is wet or shows signs of running too rich. Usually if it is
really flooding at speed it will smoke or have a strong exhaust smell
of fuel.
I suppose it is possible that it is flooding tho, if the carburetor
float is bad, one way or the other, it could be a bad needle or it
could just be that they set the float level wrong. Is the generator
sitting flat? If you can figure where the hinge end of the float is
you could sit the generator at a bit of an angle to lower the hinge
and compensate for the float level being wrong (as a test). That all
assumes this is not a diaphragm carb.

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On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:21:33 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

Don, have you checked to see that the dealer did, in fact, put oil in the thing? What is the wattage
of your space heater. If too high, it will overload the generator.

The NEC and U/L will limit any appliance with a 5-15 (regular 120v)
plug to 1440 watts. Isn't your generator 1500w continuous and 2k peak?
If it exceeds the rating it should be tripping the breaker not
stalling the stalling the motor.

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On Friday, 16 March 2018 09:22:09 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/16/2018 8:15 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:09:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.


He could loosen the float bowl drain plug and see if there's fuel in the bowl. If it's full, then
the cap wouldn't be the problem, I'd think.

It sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than too much fuel.



Me too. But, it's new and I agree with Don that if he continues to have
problems it's time to return it for a replacement.

I watched a bunch of videos about cleaning the carb, the needle etc.
Didn't realize how complex it is. It has a motor driven widget on top
of the carb that is controlled by the "Eco" mode switch. It regulates
the RPM for the load when the Eco is "on". It's amazing to me that
mine runs so well after all the hours on it and I've never even changed
the spark plug.

I also noticed that the original eu2000i has been replaced with a newer
version. I wonder if Don's is the original or the newer one.

Mine is the "Cold Climate Technology" model..what ever that means.
I have it running outside right now...almost 20 minutes in.

Ding ding...round 2
 

On Friday, 16 March 2018 09:21:33 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

Don, have you checked to see that the dealer did, in fact, put oil in the thing? What is the wattage
of your space heater. If too high, it will overload the generator.

Yes, I checked the oil level...it's at the full mark. My old space heater has three settings...I start at the lowest and then move up to the middle setting which must be between 1000 and 1200 watts.

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On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Friday, 16 March 2018 09:21:33 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

Don, have you checked to see that the dealer did, in fact, put oil in the thing? What is the wattage
of your space heater. If too high, it will overload the generator.

Yes, I checked the oil level...it's at the full mark. My old space heater has three settings...I start at the lowest and then move up to the middle setting which must be between 1000 and 1200 watts.

Sounds like you've got all the bases covered. And, from your previous post, sounds like maybe it's
running OK. What did you do to solve your problem?

Also, have you noticed how friendly folks can be when you don't call names and act like a smart ass?

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"Also, have you noticed how friendly folks can be when you don't call names and act like a smart ass?"



Who's acting?

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On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 11:08:31 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

"Also, have you noticed how friendly folks can be when you don't call names and act like a smart ass?"



Who's acting?

LOL! Ain't that the truth!

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True North wrote:
"Also, have you noticed how friendly folks can be when you don't call
names and act like a smart ass?"



Who's acting?


Do you read and understand what you post?

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Bill Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
"Also, have you noticed how friendly folks can be when you don't call
names and act like a smart ass?"



Who's acting?


Do you read and understand what you post?



Even less than Fat Harry, I'm afraid.
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