On 2/25/2018 9:33 PM, wrote:
I am really serious about cutting the cord. My wife says after the
olympics but that was today.
I am already transitioning to streaming, I am working my way through
the Amazon Prime documentaries They have just about anything that PBS
ever aired. I talked about the American Experience show about the MLK
assassination the other day. Today I am watching Frontline season 27
ep 8. This is contemporary with the 2009 crash and it is pretty
interesting, carving through some of the myths we may have.


The Firestick has a great interface, very easy to use.

I have added Terrarium TV on my Firestick.
This has all the TV shows you would want.

https://troypoint.com/install-terrar...fire-tv-stick/

I have also added Mobdro
Mobdro has many, many networks and TV stations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWip-rgCjmc

Kodi can also be installed on your Firestick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQogjnEqLhs

I have not put Kodi on mine but I have a buddy that uses it.
I did use Kodi when I used a Raspberry pi for streaming.

I have not used any of the Prime videos, as there is so much available
on the apps I posted.

Also, a program called Real Debrid,
https://real-debrid.com/
It's not needed and has a small cost but it picks the sources that will
give you the best sources to stream from automatically, without you
picking from a list. Also picks the 1040p and 4k streams.

Mikek

On 2/26/2018 11:28 AM, amdx wrote:
On 2/25/2018 9:33 PM, wrote:
I am really serious about cutting the cord. My wife says after the
olympics but that was today.
I am already transitioning to streaming, I am working my way through
the Amazon Prime documentaries They have just about anything that PBS
ever aired. I talked about the American Experience show about the MLK
assassination the other day. Today I am watching Frontline season 27
ep 8. This is contemporary with the 2009 crash and it is pretty
interesting, carving through some of the myths we may have.


Â*The Firestick has a great interface, very easy to use.

Â*I have added Terrarium TV on my Firestick.
This has all the TV shows you would want.

https://troypoint.com/install-terrar...fire-tv-stick/

Â*I have also added Mobdro
Mobdro has many, many networks and TV stations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWip-rgCjmc

Kodi can also be installed on your Firestick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQogjnEqLhs

I have not put Kodi on mine but I have a buddy that uses it.
I did use Kodi when I used a Raspberry pi for streaming.

I have not used any of the Prime videos, as there is so much available
on the apps I posted.

Also, a program called Real Debrid,
https://real-debrid.com/
Â*It's not needed and has a small cost but it picks the sources that will
give you the best sources to stream from automatically, without you
picking from a list. Also picks the 1040p and 4k streams.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â* Mikek





"Cutting the cord" (meaning cable/internet service) and going to
streaming still requires a relatively fast internet service, does it
not? What service would you use?

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:42:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

"Cutting the cord" (meaning cable/internet service) and going to
streaming still requires a relatively fast internet service, does it
not? What service would you use?

I have 10mb DSL and that will support 2 streams and regular browsing.

On 2/26/2018 10:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2018 11:28 AM, amdx wrote:
On 2/25/2018 9:33 PM, wrote:
I am really serious about cutting the cord. My wife says after the
olympics but that was today.
I am already transitioning to streaming, I am working my way through
the Amazon Prime documentaries They have just about anything that PBS
ever aired. I talked about the American Experience show about the MLK
assassination the other day. Today I am watching Frontline season 27
ep 8. This is contemporary with the 2009 crash and it is pretty
interesting, carving through some of the myths we may have.


Â*Â*The Firestick has a great interface, very easy to use.

Â*Â*I have added Terrarium TV on my Firestick.
This has all the TV shows you would want.

https://troypoint.com/install-terrar...fire-tv-stick/

Â*Â*I have also added Mobdro
Mobdro has many, many networks and TV stations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWip-rgCjmc

Kodi can also be installed on your Firestick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQogjnEqLhs

I have not put Kodi on mine but I have a buddy that uses it.
I did use Kodi when I used a Raspberry pi for streaming.

I have not used any of the Prime videos, as there is so much available
on the apps I posted.

Also, a program called Real Debrid,
https://real-debrid.com/
Â*Â*It's not needed and has a small cost but it picks the sources that will
give you the best sources to stream from automatically, without you
picking from a list. Also picks the 1040p and 4k streams.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â* Mikek





"Cutting the cord"Â* (meaning cable/internet service) and going to
streaming still requires a relatively fast internet service, does it
not?Â* What service would you use?

I have 30Mbps and I don't have any problems, but I also don't have any
other demands on the service, while I'm streaming.
Mikek

On 2/27/2018 12:36 PM, amdx wrote:
On 2/26/2018 10:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2018 11:28 AM, amdx wrote:
On 2/25/2018 9:33 PM, wrote:
I am really serious about cutting the cord. My wife says after the
olympics but that was today.
I am already transitioning to streaming, I am working my way through
the Amazon Prime documentaries They have just about anything that PBS
ever aired. I talked about the American Experience show about the MLK
assassination the other day. Today I am watching Frontline season 27
ep 8. This is contemporary with the 2009 crash and it is pretty
interesting, carving through some of the myths we may have.


Â*Â*The Firestick has a great interface, very easy to use.

Â*Â*I have added Terrarium TV on my Firestick.
This has all the TV shows you would want.

https://troypoint.com/install-terrar...fire-tv-stick/

Â*Â*I have also added Mobdro
Mobdro has many, many networks and TV stations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWip-rgCjmc

Kodi can also be installed on your Firestick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQogjnEqLhs

I have not put Kodi on mine but I have a buddy that uses it.
I did use Kodi when I used a Raspberry pi for streaming.

I have not used any of the Prime videos, as there is so much
available on the apps I posted.

Also, a program called Real Debrid,
https://real-debrid.com/
Â*Â*It's not needed and has a small cost but it picks the sources that
will
give you the best sources to stream from automatically, without you
picking from a list. Also picks the 1040p and 4k streams.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â* Mikek





"Cutting the cord"Â* (meaning cable/internet service) and going to
streaming still requires a relatively fast internet service, does it
not?Â* What service would you use?

Â*I have 30Mbps and I don't have any problems, but I also don't have any
other demands on the service, while I'm streaming.
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Mikek



30 Mbps is fine for streaming HD video, even with other devices
connected. What service do you have for Internet?

On 2/27/2018 12:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/27/2018 12:36 PM, amdx wrote:
On 2/26/2018 10:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/26/2018 11:28 AM, amdx wrote:
On 2/25/2018 9:33 PM, wrote:
I am really serious about cutting the cord. My wife says after the
olympics but that was today.
I am already transitioning to streaming, I am working my way through
the Amazon Prime documentaries They have just about anything that PBS
ever aired. I talked about the American Experience show about the MLK
assassination the other day. Today I am watching Frontline season 27
ep 8. This is contemporary with the 2009 crash and it is pretty
interesting, carving through some of the myths we may have.


Â*Â*The Firestick has a great interface, very easy to use.

Â*Â*I have added Terrarium TV on my Firestick.
This has all the TV shows you would want.

https://troypoint.com/install-terrar...fire-tv-stick/


Â*Â*I have also added Mobdro
Mobdro has many, many networks and TV stations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWip-rgCjmc

Kodi can also be installed on your Firestick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQogjnEqLhs

I have not put Kodi on mine but I have a buddy that uses it.
I did use Kodi when I used a Raspberry pi for streaming.

I have not used any of the Prime videos, as there is so much
available on the apps I posted.

Also, a program called Real Debrid,
https://real-debrid.com/
Â*Â*It's not needed and has a small cost but it picks the sources that
will
give you the best sources to stream from automatically, without you
picking from a list. Also picks the 1040p and 4k streams.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â* Mikek





"Cutting the cord"Â* (meaning cable/internet service) and going to
streaming still requires a relatively fast internet service, does it
not?Â* What service would you use?

Â*Â*I have 30Mbps and I don't have any problems, but I also don't have any
other demands on the service, while I'm streaming.
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Mikek



30 Mbps is fine for streaming HD video, even with other devices
connected.Â* What service do you have for Internet?


I have Wow, but Comcast is available, they both have excellent cable
service, work consistently. But, I suspect like all cable companies, if
you need personal care, good luck.
Mikek

On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:36:00 -0600, amdx wrote:

I have 30Mbps

I often wonder how that translates to the real world. I had a lot of
conversations with various tech support groups leading up to switching
my web host and the problems that prompted that.
The consensus was running a speed test to your ISPs test site was
meaningless other than what the max is you can get. When you go to 3d
party sites, that is a test of your servers and their servers but the
real issue is what you can actually get when talking to a web site or
other service. I know my news server is not even close to being able
to keep my 10mb pipe full. I have also had times when Amazon was not
able to keep a stream going without buffering, even tho I still had
plenty of capacity on my end. (I could start a Netflix). It was just a
new show on Prime and I am guessing they were slammed.
That huge capacity may be good for multiple users hitting multiple
byte hungry sites but I am not sure it is of a lot of value for 1 or 2
users. My wife's place was running the whole club on one Comcast line
and they finally had to buy another one, not because of throughput but
simply because one IP address could not support the number of unique
sub net IPs they had on the LAN. Granted all of them were not
streaming cat videos on Facebook but it was more than a few.

On 2/27/2018 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:36:00 -0600, amdx wrote:

I have 30Mbps

I often wonder how that translates to the real world. I had a lot of
conversations with various tech support groups leading up to switching
my web host and the problems that prompted that.
The consensus was running a speed test to your ISPs test site was
meaningless other than what the max is you can get. When you go to 3d
party sites, that is a test of your servers and their servers but the
real issue is what you can actually get when talking to a web site or
other service. I know my news server is not even close to being able
to keep my 10mb pipe full. I have also had times when Amazon was not
able to keep a stream going without buffering, even tho I still had
plenty of capacity on my end. (I could start a Netflix). It was just a
new show on Prime and I am guessing they were slammed.
That huge capacity may be good for multiple users hitting multiple
byte hungry sites but I am not sure it is of a lot of value for 1 or 2
users. My wife's place was running the whole club on one Comcast line
and they finally had to buy another one, not because of throughput but
simply because one IP address could not support the number of unique
sub net IPs they had on the LAN. Granted all of them were not
streaming cat videos on Facebook but it was more than a few.



Years ago when we wintered in Florida we had DSL because cable was not
available. It worked ok but videos and HD media was not as
popular and as heavily downloaded back then. When I opened the guitar
shop in 2009 the building was not wired for cable so I had to get DSL
again. That's when I really starting to notice the difference between
the shop's DSL Internet speed and the speed of Comcast cable we had at
the house.

I used to update the shop's website daily and the program I used
reloaded all of the website's content which would take forever on DSL.
I ended up doing it at home after the shop closed. On cable the
complete site would upload in less than 30 seconds. At the shop it
sometimes took 5-10 minutes and often it would hang up and I'd have to
start all over again.

There is a difference, especially when more and more devices are added.
Now with two or cell phones constantly connected, multiple computers,
tablets, Smart TVs, etc., I can't see how DSL can be quick enough, but I
don't have it anymore so I don't know.

On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:49:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/27/2018 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:36:00 -0600, amdx wrote:

I have 30Mbps

I often wonder how that translates to the real world. I had a lot of
conversations with various tech support groups leading up to switching
my web host and the problems that prompted that.
The consensus was running a speed test to your ISPs test site was
meaningless other than what the max is you can get. When you go to 3d
party sites, that is a test of your servers and their servers but the
real issue is what you can actually get when talking to a web site or
other service. I know my news server is not even close to being able
to keep my 10mb pipe full. I have also had times when Amazon was not
able to keep a stream going without buffering, even tho I still had
plenty of capacity on my end. (I could start a Netflix). It was just a
new show on Prime and I am guessing they were slammed.
That huge capacity may be good for multiple users hitting multiple
byte hungry sites but I am not sure it is of a lot of value for 1 or 2
users. My wife's place was running the whole club on one Comcast line
and they finally had to buy another one, not because of throughput but
simply because one IP address could not support the number of unique
sub net IPs they had on the LAN. Granted all of them were not
streaming cat videos on Facebook but it was more than a few.



Years ago when we wintered in Florida we had DSL because cable was not
available. It worked ok but videos and HD media was not as
popular and as heavily downloaded back then. When I opened the guitar
shop in 2009 the building was not wired for cable so I had to get DSL
again. That's when I really starting to notice the difference between
the shop's DSL Internet speed and the speed of Comcast cable we had at
the house.

I used to update the shop's website daily and the program I used
reloaded all of the website's content which would take forever on DSL.
I ended up doing it at home after the shop closed. On cable the
complete site would upload in less than 30 seconds. At the shop it
sometimes took 5-10 minutes and often it would hang up and I'd have to
start all over again.

There is a difference, especially when more and more devices are added.
Now with two or cell phones constantly connected, multiple computers,
tablets, Smart TVs, etc., I can't see how DSL can be quick enough, but I
don't have it anymore so I don't know.



===

DSL was always much slower on upload compared to download if I recall
correctly. It was a feature. :-)

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On 2/27/2018 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:49:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/27/2018 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:36:00 -0600, amdx wrote:

I have 30Mbps

I often wonder how that translates to the real world. I had a lot of
conversations with various tech support groups leading up to switching
my web host and the problems that prompted that.
The consensus was running a speed test to your ISPs test site was
meaningless other than what the max is you can get. When you go to 3d
party sites, that is a test of your servers and their servers but the
real issue is what you can actually get when talking to a web site or
other service. I know my news server is not even close to being able
to keep my 10mb pipe full. I have also had times when Amazon was not
able to keep a stream going without buffering, even tho I still had
plenty of capacity on my end. (I could start a Netflix). It was just a
new show on Prime and I am guessing they were slammed.
That huge capacity may be good for multiple users hitting multiple
byte hungry sites but I am not sure it is of a lot of value for 1 or 2
users. My wife's place was running the whole club on one Comcast line
and they finally had to buy another one, not because of throughput but
simply because one IP address could not support the number of unique
sub net IPs they had on the LAN. Granted all of them were not
streaming cat videos on Facebook but it was more than a few.



Years ago when we wintered in Florida we had DSL because cable was not
available. It worked ok but videos and HD media was not as
popular and as heavily downloaded back then. When I opened the guitar
shop in 2009 the building was not wired for cable so I had to get DSL
again. That's when I really starting to notice the difference between
the shop's DSL Internet speed and the speed of Comcast cable we had at
the house.

I used to update the shop's website daily and the program I used
reloaded all of the website's content which would take forever on DSL.
I ended up doing it at home after the shop closed. On cable the
complete site would upload in less than 30 seconds. At the shop it
sometimes took 5-10 minutes and often it would hang up and I'd have to
start all over again.

There is a difference, especially when more and more devices are added.
Now with two or cell phones constantly connected, multiple computers,
tablets, Smart TVs, etc., I can't see how DSL can be quick enough, but I
don't have it anymore so I don't know.



===

DSL was always much slower on upload compared to download if I recall
correctly. It was a feature. :-)


I think that's true of cable also. But here's something I found
interesting when I did the speed tests to compare the AT&T WiFi in the
truck and Comcast WiFi. AT&T's uploads were always a bit faster than
the downloads. Maybe it's because the download speeds were very slow in
comparison.