On 2/22/2018 11:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 21:58:50 UTC-4, Its Me wrote:
snip...
If you want to lessen the ability of sick people to do these types of mass shootings, you'll have to strip all firearms from the US. Every long gun, pistol, shotgun... everything. It'll take decades.
snip...


Bingo! Now you're finally talking sense...didn't know y'all had it in you.
Simple fact...too many Americans just can't be trusted with firearms so the rest of y'all have to suffer for the common good.

How do you do that? We also have a 5th amendment that says the
government can't just "take" things without just compensation and the
6th amendment says they need to use due process. Even if they could
repeal the second amendment, you still have those nagging problems.



Apparently states can as evidenced by the recent (Feb 1st) ban of bump
stocks and trigger cranks in Massachusetts and the requirement within 90
days to turn over any existing bump stocks/trigger cranks to local or
state police to be destroyed. No compensation and criminal prosecution
including a $10,000 fine and/or subject to incarceration if caught with
either or both after the 90 day period.

On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:12:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/22/2018 11:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 21:58:50 UTC-4, Its Me wrote:
snip...
If you want to lessen the ability of sick people to do these types of mass shootings, you'll have to strip all firearms from the US. Every long gun, pistol, shotgun... everything. It'll take decades.
snip...


Bingo! Now you're finally talking sense...didn't know y'all had it in you.
Simple fact...too many Americans just can't be trusted with firearms so the rest of y'all have to suffer for the common good.

How do you do that? We also have a 5th amendment that says the
government can't just "take" things without just compensation and the
6th amendment says they need to use due process. Even if they could
repeal the second amendment, you still have those nagging problems.



Apparently states can as evidenced by the recent (Feb 1st) ban of bump
stocks and trigger cranks in Massachusetts and the requirement within 90
days to turn over any existing bump stocks/trigger cranks to local or
state police to be destroyed. No compensation and criminal prosecution
including a $10,000 fine and/or subject to incarceration if caught with
either or both after the 90 day period.



Did you get one of these:
http://blog.goal.org/wp-content/uplo...-LICENSEES.pdf

The wording wouldn't require much changing to just require that you turn in your firearms. Perhaps
that's one of the reasons the NRA is against the registration and/or licensing of firearms.

On 2/23/2018 8:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:12:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/22/2018 11:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 21:58:50 UTC-4, Its Me wrote:
snip...
If you want to lessen the ability of sick people to do these types of mass shootings, you'll have to strip all firearms from the US. Every long gun, pistol, shotgun... everything. It'll take decades.
snip...


Bingo! Now you're finally talking sense...didn't know y'all had it in you.
Simple fact...too many Americans just can't be trusted with firearms so the rest of y'all have to suffer for the common good.

How do you do that? We also have a 5th amendment that says the
government can't just "take" things without just compensation and the
6th amendment says they need to use due process. Even if they could
repeal the second amendment, you still have those nagging problems.



Apparently states can as evidenced by the recent (Feb 1st) ban of bump
stocks and trigger cranks in Massachusetts and the requirement within 90
days to turn over any existing bump stocks/trigger cranks to local or
state police to be destroyed. No compensation and criminal prosecution
including a $10,000 fine and/or subject to incarceration if caught with
either or both after the 90 day period.



Did you get one of these:
http://blog.goal.org/wp-content/uplo...-LICENSEES.pdf

The wording wouldn't require much changing to just require that you turn in your firearms. Perhaps
that's one of the reasons the NRA is against the registration and/or licensing of firearms.


Yup, received that letter last month. I think the legal thing is that
bump stocks and trigger cranks are *not* considered firearms. They are
accessories, much like a magazine of over 10 round capacity which are
also banned.

You cannot legally obtain a gun permit of any type or legally purchase
or sell a firearm in Massachusetts without the transaction being
registered with the state. Don't know if these MA laws have ever been
challenged but they have been in force for longer than I've owned guns.

Even private sales must be reported (you can do it on-line) to be within
the law. It sorta goes back to that "chain of custody" discussion we've
had in the past. If I sell a firearm privately (which I have done)
it's in my best interests to report it as the law requires. If I don't
and that firearm is ever used in a crime and is discovered, I would be
the last registered owner and the cops would be banging on my door.

On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:12:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/22/2018 11:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 21:58:50 UTC-4, Its Me wrote:
snip...
If you want to lessen the ability of sick people to do these types of mass shootings, you'll have to strip all firearms from the US. Every long gun, pistol, shotgun... everything. It'll take decades.
snip...


Bingo! Now you're finally talking sense...didn't know y'all had it in you.
Simple fact...too many Americans just can't be trusted with firearms so the rest of y'all have to suffer for the common good.

How do you do that? We also have a 5th amendment that says the
government can't just "take" things without just compensation and the
6th amendment says they need to use due process. Even if they could
repeal the second amendment, you still have those nagging problems.



Apparently states can as evidenced by the recent (Feb 1st) ban of bump
stocks and trigger cranks in Massachusetts and the requirement within 90
days to turn over any existing bump stocks/trigger cranks to local or
state police to be destroyed. No compensation and criminal prosecution
including a $10,000 fine and/or subject to incarceration if caught with
either or both after the 90 day period.


You might even see the ACLU join the law suit with NRA for that one.
They need to provide "just compensation" and this is an "ex post
facto" law.

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 2/22/2018 11:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 21:58:50 UTC-4, Its Me wrote:
snip...
If you want to lessen the ability of sick people to do these types of mass shootings, you'll have to strip all firearms from the US. Every long gun, pistol, shotgun... everything. It'll take decades.
snip...


Bingo! Now you're finally talking sense...didn't know y'all had it in you.
Simple fact...too many Americans just can't be trusted with firearms so the rest of y'all have to suffer for the common good.

How do you do that? We also have a 5th amendment that says the
government can't just "take" things without just compensation and the
6th amendment says they need to use due process. Even if they could
repeal the second amendment, you still have those nagging problems.



Apparently states can as evidenced by the recent (Feb 1st) ban of bump
stocks and trigger cranks in Massachusetts and the requirement within 90
days to turn over any existing bump stocks/trigger cranks to local or
state police to be destroyed. No compensation and criminal prosecution
including a $10,000 fine and/or subject to incarceration if caught with
either or both after the 90 day period.




Send me your guns. I'll watch over them until you can escape from
nannyland.
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On 2/23/2018 2:58 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 2/22/2018 11:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 21:58:50 UTC-4, Its Me wrote:
snip...
If you want to lessen the ability of sick people to do these types of mass shootings, you'll have to strip all firearms from the US. Every long gun, pistol, shotgun... everything. It'll take decades.
snip...


Bingo! Now you're finally talking sense...didn't know y'all had it in you.
Simple fact...too many Americans just can't be trusted with firearms so the rest of y'all have to suffer for the common good.

How do you do that? We also have a 5th amendment that says the
government can't just "take" things without just compensation and the
6th amendment says they need to use due process. Even if they could
repeal the second amendment, you still have those nagging problems.



Apparently states can as evidenced by the recent (Feb 1st) ban of bump
stocks and trigger cranks in Massachusetts and the requirement within 90
days to turn over any existing bump stocks/trigger cranks to local or
state police to be destroyed. No compensation and criminal prosecution
including a $10,000 fine and/or subject to incarceration if caught with
either or both after the 90 day period.




Send me your guns. I'll watch over them until you can escape from
nannyland.



:-)