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On 2/25/2018 10:58 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/18 6:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2018 1:00 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 00:40:44 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/24/2018 5:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:10:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/24/2018 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 17:50:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 03:22:14 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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I don't read it that way.

He states that although violent crime is down 7 percent the
rising
number of deaths in young people is alarming.

"We're seeing kids younger and younger with handguns,"
Commissioner
Evans said. "They're shooting at each other, that's why we
have to work
harder to keep those kids out of that lifestyle."

He also states that half of the incidents are gang related
shootings.

Not too many gang members legally purchase firearms, I
don't think.

Maybe you get an extra 3 years if caught with a firearm and
do not have a
gun safety certificate.Â*Â* Need a certificate as a minor to
drive a boat in
a bunch of states

Most of the time the gun charges get dealt away to get the
conviction
on the more serious charge. In Florida that is not always so
tho. We
had a woman here charged with aggravated assault that might
have been
dealt away with a couple years or even probation but the gun
charge
made it mandatory 20 years.

I am saying you need to pass a gun safety course before being
able to buy a
firearm.Â*Â* Military service would qualify.Â*Â* Hunter safety
course would
qualify.Â*Â* CCW course would qualify.

I am all for training but what training? In Florida it seems to be
more legal than practical. They spend most of the time telling you
can't really shoot anyone and then talk about basic firearm
safety,
how to carry your weapon,Â* how to secure your weapon etc.
The other extreme would be going to Gunsite but that is up in five
figures for the comprehensive courses.
I am afraid the lefties would call that "murder school" because
it in
99% tactical.
I would certainly agree CCW courses could be more extensive.
Like most
things government mandated they just tend to be superficial.

It is like when people tell me drivers are "tested". Yeah when
they
were 16 they demonstrated they could drive around some cones
without
hitting any and parallel park. From then on for the next 60 to 80
years it is just send in a check. Some states do an eye test
but far
from all and if your eye doctor gives you a note you can duck
that.
Florida renewed my mom's license and she was dead.

The permit course I took was only 4 hours of instruction and an
hour on
the range.Â* That's it.Â* Instructors must be NRA certified and
that's the
minimum course required for a permit.

My son and his wife took a much more extensive course here in MA
before
they moved to SC.Â* I've forgotten how long it was exactly but
they went
2 or 3 evenings a week for over a month.

The guys who teach here are usually off duty or former cops. I
suppose
that is why it is so heavy on the law.

The one I had was a retired cop.Â* He got his NRA certification and
teaches the course as a part-time retirement job.Â* His course was
sprinkled with many "lawful" suggestions including encounters with
police, what to say and what not to say.

I would like to see a more hunter safety course type training.Â*Â* We
had
maybe 8 hours classroom and a 1/2 day at the range.

That may be more than the military gets if you are not in the army or
the marines.

Air Force b@sic we got one day inside with safety and aiming and
breaking
down the weapon and a day at the range.Â* If you were going to posted
in a
shooting area, they told us we would get lots more training later.

Same with the Navy back in the old days. Those who went on to become
Gunner's Mates received more extensive training later.

The ships I was on often held training and shooting exercises for
everyone on the helicopter deck while at sea.Â* We got to try just
about everything in the small arms locker.

Today's Navy includes more extensive training in firearms evenÂ* in
basic training.

How extensive?

Certainly not as extensive as the Marines or Army recruits but more than
I experienced back in 1968. Navy recruits today must qualify with a 9mm
(Glock) and a shotgun, although according to my son and son-in-law they
also used a M4.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/navy-weapons-qualification-course.html

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