That time of year again...
 

On Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:28:09 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 21:39:51 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Everyone told you that boat was underpowered.
135 hp for a 17.5 foot boat?? Not likely.
We just need a bigger boat with more hp if we plan on carrying guests on a regular basis.

A 90HP outboard on that same boat would outperform the 135 I/O and
probably burn less fuel. Bayliner has offered under-powered boats for
as long as I can remember. They shoot for a price point and cut corners
wherever they can to make that happen.

The newer Bayliners have improved on that 1980's - 1990's business plan.

That time of year again...
 

justan wrote:
Alex Wrote in message:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:44:15 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:08:03 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Well, can't say you weren't well advised.
He won't admit it. Harry, the Bayliner hater, kept quiet on that
purchase. You would think he would have helped his only friend.
Yup. Harry turned the advice into a 'personal attack' on Donnie. I suppose Donnie now thinks he can
get a wider boat in his driveway.
He'll need an additional wife to help him pull that off.

Maybe one of Fat Harry's ex wives is available.

They have likely moved far away.

That time of year again...
 

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:28:09 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 21:39:51 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Everyone told you that boat was underpowered.
135 hp for a 17.5 foot boat?? Not likely.
We just need a bigger boat with more hp if we plan on carrying guests on a regular basis.
A 90HP outboard on that same boat would outperform the 135 I/O and
probably burn less fuel. Bayliner has offered under-powered boats for
as long as I can remember. They shoot for a price point and cut corners
wherever they can to make that happen.
The newer Bayliners have improved on that 1980's - 1990's business plan.


Not much evidently.

That time of year again...
 

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:27:50 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:28:09 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 21:39:51 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Everyone told you that boat was underpowered.
135 hp for a 17.5 foot boat?? Not likely.
We just need a bigger boat with more hp if we plan on carrying guests on a regular basis.
A 90HP outboard on that same boat would outperform the 135 I/O and
probably burn less fuel. Bayliner has offered under-powered boats for
as long as I can remember. They shoot for a price point and cut corners
wherever they can to make that happen.
The newer Bayliners have improved on that 1980's - 1990's business plan.


Not much evidently.

Maybe Donnie doesn't realize that putting his guests in the bow of the bowrider would help him get
on plane more easily.

That time of year again...
 

Mr White (to y'all) certainly does realize that, Johnny.
My manual advises against that while underway.
Seems it's a safety concern. Besides, how would y'all like to get repeated splashes of coldcwater from Halifax Harbour in your mug?

That time of year again...
 

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 8:40:22 AM UTC-5, True North wrote:
Mr White (to y'all) certainly does realize that, Johnny.
My manual advises against that while underway.
Seems it's a safety concern. Besides, how would y'all like to get repeated splashes of coldcwater from Halifax Harbour in your mug?

You're taking water over the bow while underway? You have the wrong kind of boat for your boating venue.

That time of year again...
 

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 06:25:31 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 8:40:22 AM UTC-5, True North wrote:
Mr White (to y'all) certainly does realize that, Johnny.
My manual advises against that while underway.
Seems it's a safety concern. Besides, how would y'all like to get repeated splashes of coldcwater from Halifax Harbour in your mug?

You're taking water over the bow while underway? You have the wrong kind of boat for your boating venue.


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Yes. Bow riders are nororious for taking water over the bow in rough
conditions unless they are trimmed way up and run off plane. I have a
27 foot bow rider that behaves exactly the same way so length is not
the answer. For rough water you really need high freeboard forward.
Take a look at serious fishing boats like Grady Whites.

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On 2/20/2018 9:25 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 8:40:22 AM UTC-5, True North wrote:
Mr White (to y'all) certainly does realize that, Johnny.
My manual advises against that while underway.
Seems it's a safety concern. Besides, how would y'all like to get repeated splashes of coldcwater from Halifax Harbour in your mug?


You're taking water over the bow while underway? You have the wrong kind of boat for your boating venue.



I don't know where Don goes boating but a bowrider is no place for the
ocean or in large lakes where the seas can get rough. Just my opinion.

That time of year again...
 

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:40:20 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Mr White (to y'all) certainly does realize that, Johnny.
My manual advises against that while underway.
Seems it's a safety concern. Besides, how would y'all like to get repeated splashes of coldcwater from Halifax Harbour in your mug?

You're saying, donnie, that you bought a 'bowrider' but the book says no riding in the bow? There's
seat cushions and pads up there, but 'no riding in the bow'? Are you sure you don't mean 'no riding
on the bow with feet dangling over the bow'?

Donnie, I'd really have to see that statement in your book. Which book are you quoting?

That time of year again...
 

On 2/20/18 8:40 AM, True North wrote:
Mr White (to y'all) certainly does realize that, Johnny.
My manual advises against that while underway.
Seems it's a safety concern. Besides, how would y'all like to get repeated splashes of coldcwater from Halifax Harbour in your mug?


I'm kinda researching buying a small boat for the move to Hilton Head.
Sentimental favorite is a 16' Amesbury Dory with a 20 or 25 hp outboard:

http://stur-deeboat.com/wp/wp-conten...16-strip1a.jpg

Or a Carolina Skiff, or one of the aluminum fishing boats that are
common down there.

Lots of skinny water, so shallow draft is important.