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			Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 4:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:23:52 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: There is even easier access to kitchen knives, hammers and cars, but it is far more rare that a troubled person uses one of those to kill someone. There must be something other than easy access to drive them to use a gun, eh? Efficiency. The same reason Harry has had an assault rifle of some sort for as long as I can remember. Knives and clubs still kill about 2200 a year vs a few hundred for rifles. I engage in the wholesale slaughter of empty beer and soda cans, plastic soda bottles, and paper targets. No kids or crazed right-wing rec.boaters are going to get their hands on my rifles unless they blow up or carry out my 800-pound safe that is through-bolted to concrete. Unless it's a tiny safe, you don't own a safe. Mine is just over 1500lbs. | 
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			Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 8:33 PM, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 4:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:23:52 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: There is even easier access to kitchen knives, hammers and cars, but it is far more rare that a troubled person uses one of those to kill someone. There must be something other than easy access to drive them to use a gun, eh? Efficiency. The same reason Harry has had an assault rifle of some sort for as long as I can remember. Knives and clubs still kill about 2200 a year vs a few hundred for rifles. I engage in the wholesale slaughter of empty beer and soda cans, plastic soda bottles, and paper targets. No kids or crazed right-wing rec.boaters are going to get their hands on my rifles unless they blow up or carry out my 800-pound safe that is through-bolted to concrete. Unless it's a tiny safe, you don't own a safe. Mine is just over 1500lbs. You are *the* ignorant asshole on rec.boats, Alex. I have a Liberty Safe, a decent brand. It measures 66.5" x 36" x 32", and adequately stores my small collection of firearms, and much more. I was wrong about the weight...it weighs 900+ pounds. It is a real safe. Go pound sand. Bad buy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRFZd4SlKQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1emdpdLWhH4 | 
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			On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 9:01:37 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 8:33 PM, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 4:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:23:52 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: There is even easier access to kitchen knives, hammers and cars, but it is far more rare that a troubled person uses one of those to kill someone. There must be something other than easy access to drive them to use a gun, eh? Efficiency. The same reason Harry has had an assault rifle of some sort for as long as I can remember. Knives and clubs still kill about 2200 a year vs a few hundred for rifles. I engage in the wholesale slaughter of empty beer and soda cans, plastic soda bottles, and paper targets. No kids or crazed right-wing rec.boaters are going to get their hands on my rifles unless they blow up or carry out my 800-pound safe that is through-bolted to concrete. Unless it's a tiny safe, you don't own a safe. Mine is just over 1500lbs. You are *the* ignorant asshole on rec.boats, Alex. I have a Liberty Safe, a decent brand. It measures 66.5" x 36" x 32", and adequately stores my small collection of firearms, and much more. I was wrong about the weight...it weighs 900+ pounds. It is a real safe. Go pound sand. Bad buy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRFZd4SlKQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1emdpdLWhH4 Heh, heh. Harry has a ****ty safe. | 
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			On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:47 -0500, Alex  wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 4:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:23:52 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: There is even easier access to kitchen knives, hammers and cars, but it is far more rare that a troubled person uses one of those to kill someone. There must be something other than easy access to drive them to use a gun, eh? Efficiency. The same reason Harry has had an assault rifle of some sort for as long as I can remember. Knives and clubs still kill about 2200 a year vs a few hundred for rifles. I engage in the wholesale slaughter of empty beer and soda cans, plastic soda bottles, and paper targets. No kids or crazed right-wing rec.boaters are going to get their hands on my rifles unless they blow up or carry out my 800-pound safe that is through-bolted to concrete. Unless it's a tiny safe, you don't own a safe. Mine is just over 1500lbs. Harry is a high volume dealer but he never has a lot of inventory in his floor plan. A small safe works for him. BTW have you ever seen how long the typical "gun safe" holds up to a determined thief with modern tools? A diamond blade in a $20 Harbor Fright circular saw will slice through the side or back of these things in a few minutes. A regular "metal" cutting carbide blade will defeat most of them. It is noisy and dusty but effective on just about anything but 1/4" armor plate. Most are 16ga up to 12ga steel with some kind of cement board or even fire code drywall between layers. | 
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|  WTF is going on in this country? - Most are 16ga up to 12ga steel with some kind of cement board or even fire code drywall between layers. ——- And don’t forget an old west picture painted on the door | 
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			On 2/15/18 9:46 PM,  wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:47 -0500, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 4:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:23:52 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: There is even easier access to kitchen knives, hammers and cars, but it is far more rare that a troubled person uses one of those to kill someone. There must be something other than easy access to drive them to use a gun, eh? Efficiency. The same reason Harry has had an assault rifle of some sort for as long as I can remember. Knives and clubs still kill about 2200 a year vs a few hundred for rifles. I engage in the wholesale slaughter of empty beer and soda cans, plastic soda bottles, and paper targets. No kids or crazed right-wing rec.boaters are going to get their hands on my rifles unless they blow up or carry out my 800-pound safe that is through-bolted to concrete. Unless it's a tiny safe, you don't own a safe. Mine is just over 1500lbs. Harry is a high volume dealer but he never has a lot of inventory in his floor plan. A small safe works for him. BTW have you ever seen how long the typical "gun safe" holds up to a determined thief with modern tools? A diamond blade in a $20 Harbor Fright circular saw will slice through the side or back of these things in a few minutes. A regular "metal" cutting carbide blade will defeat most of them. It is noisy and dusty but effective on just about anything but 1/4" armor plate. Most are 16ga up to 12ga steel with some kind of cement board or even fire code drywall between layers. Well, then, no reason to buy a safe, eh? Because in your world, nothing can be done about anything. The safe I have uses 11-gauge steel, whatever that is. | 
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			On 2/16/2018 8:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 9:46 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:33:47 -0500, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/15/18 4:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:23:52 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: There is even easier access to kitchen knives, hammers and cars, but it is far more rare that a troubled person uses one of those to kill someone. There must be something other than easy access to drive them to use a gun, eh? Efficiency. The same reason Harry has had an assault rifle of some sort for as long as I can remember. Knives and clubs still kill about 2200 a year vs a few hundred for rifles. I engage in the wholesale slaughter of empty beer and soda cans, plastic soda bottles, and paper targets. No kids or crazed right-wing rec.boaters are going to get their hands on my rifles unless they blow up or carry out my 800-pound safe that is through-bolted to concrete. Unless it's a tiny safe, you don't own a safe.Â* Mine is just over 1500lbs. Harry is a high volume dealer but he never has a lot of inventory in his floor plan. A small safe works for him. BTW have you ever seen how long the typical "gun safe" holds up to a determined thief with modern tools? A diamond blade in a $20 Harbor Fright circular saw will slice through the side or back of these things in a few minutes. A regular "metal" cutting carbide blade will defeat most of them. It is noisy and dusty but effective on just about anything but 1/4" armor plate. Most are 16ga up to 12ga steel with some kind of cement board or even fire code drywall between layers. Well, then, no reason to buy a safe, eh? Because in your world, nothing can be done about anything. The safe I have uses 11-gauge steel, whatever that is. 11 ga steel is just over 1 tenth of an inch thick. Not much thicker than the steel in a file cabinet. Hope that makes you feel secure. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus | 
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			On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:49:40 -0500, Justan Ohlphart  wrote: Well, then, no reason to buy a safe, eh? Because in your world, nothing can be done about anything. The safe I have uses 11-gauge steel, whatever that is. 11 ga steel is just over 1 tenth of an inch thick. Not much thicker than the steel in a file cabinet. Hope that makes you feel secure. Actually 11ga is .125" and really thick for a typical gun safe. File cabinets are usually 18-20ga and cheap ones less than that. The "security" Steelcase ones we had at IBM were 18ga. The regular ones were 20ga as I recall (it may be 16/18). I have a regular one back in the shop I keep my ammo in. I suppose I could check it. The difference is just how fast the cut goes tho. If someone is serious and brings a 14" cutoff saw, 1/4" steel is going down pretty fast. It really just depends on how much they want your guns and if they know they are there in the first place. Big safes, usually mean lots of valuable guns. Harry may be attracting unnecessary attention to his modest collection ;-) | 
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