On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.

Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.

Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.

I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's what I need!"

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.

Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.

I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's what I need!"

Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and a still red dot appeared on his chest. A guy came up to him and told him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh. At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot. Of course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound. Limousine liberals believe all this stuff.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:32:06 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.

Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.

I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's what I need!"

Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and a still red dot appeared on his chest. A guy came up to him and told him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh. At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot. Of course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound. Limousine liberals believe all this stuff.

I saw that also. I was thinking of it when I wrote the sentences above. 'Blindspot', I think.

Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.
Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.
I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's what I need!"
Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and a still red dot appeared on his chest. A guy came up to him and told him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh. At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot. Of course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound. Limousine liberals believe all this stuff.

Many real suppressors barely make a sound. You just hear the action of
the firearm unlike the strange sound they use in movies.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:58:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.
Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.
I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's what I need!"
Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and a still red dot appeared on his chest. A guy came up to him and told him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh. At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot. Of course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound. Limousine liberals believe all this stuff.

Many real suppressors barely make a sound. You just hear the action of
the firearm unlike the strange sound they use in movies.

You can't hide the crack of a round going supersonic. That happens outside the suppressor.

If you want to be really quiet, you use a bolt action, and there is no "action" sound. A semi-auto lets all kinds of noise escape.

Agreed, the movie sound effects are not real.

On 1/16/18 7:58 PM, Alex wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those
things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a
few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.
Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.
I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot
show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's
what I need!"
Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and
a still red dot appeared on his chest.Â* A guy came up to him and told
him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh.Â* At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot.Â* Of
course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound.Â* Limousine
liberals believe all this stuff.

Many real suppressors barely make a sound.Â* You just hear the action of
the firearm unlike the strange sound they use in movies.

Almost, assuming you are using a firearm with a short barrel and
subsonic ammo, and if you are using a firearm without a reciprocating
bolt/action...you can have a really quiet experience. My CZ bolt action
rifle was damned quiet with the suppressor and subsonic ammo, but my CZ
semi-auto rifle isn't as quiet, because of the bolt. My CZ SCORP is
quiet with a borrowed suppressor and subsonic 9mm ammo, but noisier than
the CZ .22 LR rifles.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:03:11 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/16/18 7:58 PM, Alex wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those
things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a
few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.
Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.
I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot
show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's
what I need!"
Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and
a still red dot appeared on his chest.* A guy came up to him and told
him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh.* At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot.* Of
course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound.* Limousine
liberals believe all this stuff.

Many real suppressors barely make a sound.* You just hear the action of
the firearm unlike the strange sound they use in movies.

Almost, assuming you are using a firearm with a short barrel and
subsonic ammo, and if you are using a firearm without a reciprocating
bolt/action...you can have a really quiet experience. My CZ bolt action
rifle was damned quiet with the suppressor and subsonic ammo, but my CZ
semi-auto rifle isn't as quiet, because of the bolt. My CZ SCORP is
quiet with a borrowed suppressor and subsonic 9mm ammo, but noisier than
the CZ .22 LR rifles.

Whatever it is, yours is better!

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:58:23 -0500, Alex wrote:

Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.
Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.
I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's what I need!"
Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and a still red dot appeared on his chest. A guy came up to him and told him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh. At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot. Of course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound. Limousine liberals believe all this stuff.

Many real suppressors barely make a sound. You just hear the action of
the firearm unlike the strange sound they use in movies.

They don't all go 'phhhhttt'?

John H wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:58:23 -0500, Alex wrote:

Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:06:33 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:40:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:54:03 -0500, John H
wrote:


No way would I ever buy one. I see people at the range with those things and laugh my ass off.
They'll shine them at a target and watch them bounce around. In a few seconds they must get
embarrassed and shut 'em off. Never to be seen again.
Lasers are not intended for slow fire bullseye shooting. They are
really for quick point and shoot situations or times when you can't
establish your normal hold or sight picture. (weak hand shooting from
behind cover or something)
I had one on my Ruger KP90 for a while and took it off. It seemed like
more of a distraction than a help. This was an early one that did not
really have great switch operation tho. I forgot about it until now.
That might be a good laser to play with for this project.
I think folks are fooled by the movies. They see the little red dot show up on someone's forehead or
chest, very still and perfectly centered, and think, "By damn, that's what I need!"
Saw a show last night with a person "on the run" in a town square, and a still red dot appeared on his chest. A guy came up to him and told him a sniper had him in his sights so he'd better give up the goods.

Heh. At long range a sniper would *not* be using a red dot. Of course, Hollywood suppressors also barely make a sound. Limousine liberals believe all this stuff.
Many real suppressors barely make a sound. You just hear the action of
the firearm unlike the strange sound they use in movies.
They don't all go 'phhhhttt'?

You would think so. It must be a stock soundbite they all share.