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Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 8th 18 10:23 AM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On 1/7/2018 10:52 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/7/2018 8:02 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 7:56:23 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 16:44:50 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low),
a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first
(and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short
trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the
charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings.
Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.

You shouldn't have any problem testing the ABS in this weather. Go to
a deserted parking lot that has some ice/snow on it and try to lock
them up. You will know right away if the ABS is working.

Not only that, but if the ABS is really disabled, your dash should be
lit up like a Christmas tree! Are those the specific error codes for
your vehicle, or the generic ones listed for your reader? They can be a bit different.



If I were John I'd try the "Control-Alt-Delete" procedure. Disconnect
the positive lead from the battery, wait for about 10 minutes, reconnect
and then see if the codes are still there and if his remote starter
works properly.





Just reset the codes via the ODB reader.


No. That just masks the problems. I'd like to see him remove the 12
volts from the entire system. He charged it but I don't think he
actually removed it.

Not saying it will work but if something is latched "off" it could reset
it. I am thinking more about the remote starter problem, not the glow
plug issue. His truck will run with one or two glow plugs out.






Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 8th 18 10:26 AM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On 1/7/2018 11:18 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 21:31:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/7/2018 8:02 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 7:56:23 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 16:44:50 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.

You shouldn't have any problem testing the ABS in this weather. Go to
a deserted parking lot that has some ice/snow on it and try to lock
them up. You will know right away if the ABS is working.

Not only that, but if the ABS is really disabled, your dash should be lit up like a Christmas tree! Are those the specific error codes for your vehicle, or the generic ones listed for your reader? They can be a bit different.



If I were John I'd try the "Control-Alt-Delete" procedure. Disconnect
the positive lead from the battery, wait for about 10 minutes, reconnect
and then see if the codes are still there and if his remote starter
works properly.


On these new cars that is more like unplugging it, taking the CMOS
battery out and pushing the power on button. That sommich will forget
everything you ever taught it.



Good. That's what I want.

I've done this in the past after driving like an old lady over a long
period. The vehicle learns your driving habits, adjusting things like
advance, shift points, etc. Removing the battery resets it and it feels
like a new vehicle again until it relearns.

justan January 8th 18 11:57 AM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.


"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.


Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


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Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 8th 18 12:36 PM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On 1/8/2018 6:57 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.


Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


Regarding # 4 in your list:

For what it's worth my remote start will only work twice (two, 10 min.
cycles). A third attempt to remote start won't work until the key is
inserted and turned to "on" or after the truck has been started normally
using the key. After that the remote will work again for another 2
cycles. However, John has said that his remote will initially start
his truck but then it dies after a few seconds. That's not normal.

Mine will remote start (using my second key/FOB) if the other key/FOB
set is in the truck but not inserted in the ignition. I can also remote
start it using the GMC app that's in my smartphone. If I try doing that
with the key in the ignition, but in the "off" position, the app on the
smartphone comes back with a message saying, "Cannot start, key in
ignition".




Its Me January 8th 18 01:16 PM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2018 6:57 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


Regarding # 4 in your list:

For what it's worth my remote start will only work twice (two, 10 min.
cycles). A third attempt to remote start won't work until the key is
inserted and turned to "on" or after the truck has been started normally
using the key. After that the remote will work again for another 2
cycles. However, John has said that his remote will initially start
his truck but then it dies after a few seconds. That's not normal.

Mine will remote start (using my second key/FOB) if the other key/FOB
set is in the truck but not inserted in the ignition. I can also remote
start it using the GMC app that's in my smartphone. If I try doing that
with the key in the ignition, but in the "off" position, the app on the
smartphone comes back with a message saying, "Cannot start, key in
ignition".


How does your smart app on your phone talk to your track? Does your truck have a SIM card with service, or does it link via bluetooth or WiFi?

justan January 8th 18 01:19 PM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 1/8/2018 6:57 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


Regarding # 4 in your list:

For what it's worth my remote start will only work twice (two, 10 min.
cycles). A third attempt to remote start won't work until the key is
inserted and turned to "on" or after the truck has been started normally
using the key. After that the remote will work again for another 2
cycles. However, John has said that his remote will initially start
his truck but then it dies after a few seconds. That's not normal.

Mine will remote start (using my second key/FOB) if the other key/FOB
set is in the truck but not inserted in the ignition. I can also remote
start it using the GMC app that's in my smartphone. If I try doing that
with the key in the ignition, but in the "off" position, the app on the
smartphone comes back with a message saying, "Cannot start, key in
ignition".





Logic tells me that 4 or 8 could be the only things on that list
that could cause shutdown after start.
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Its Me January 8th 18 01:31 PM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 8:19:41 AM UTC-5, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 1/8/2018 6:57 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


Regarding # 4 in your list:

For what it's worth my remote start will only work twice (two, 10 min.
cycles). A third attempt to remote start won't work until the key is
inserted and turned to "on" or after the truck has been started normally
using the key. After that the remote will work again for another 2
cycles. However, John has said that his remote will initially start
his truck but then it dies after a few seconds. That's not normal.

Mine will remote start (using my second key/FOB) if the other key/FOB
set is in the truck but not inserted in the ignition. I can also remote
start it using the GMC app that's in my smartphone. If I try doing that
with the key in the ignition, but in the "off" position, the app on the
smartphone comes back with a message saying, "Cannot start, key in
ignition".





Logic tells me that 4 or 8 could be the only things on that list
that could cause shutdown after start.


I'd narrow it down even more to #8. With the three codes that John's getting, it's hard to believe the CEL isn't on. Maybe the CEL bulb is burned out?

Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 8th 18 02:57 PM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On 1/8/2018 8:16 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2018 6:57 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


Regarding # 4 in your list:

For what it's worth my remote start will only work twice (two, 10 min.
cycles). A third attempt to remote start won't work until the key is
inserted and turned to "on" or after the truck has been started normally
using the key. After that the remote will work again for another 2
cycles. However, John has said that his remote will initially start
his truck but then it dies after a few seconds. That's not normal.

Mine will remote start (using my second key/FOB) if the other key/FOB
set is in the truck but not inserted in the ignition. I can also remote
start it using the GMC app that's in my smartphone. If I try doing that
with the key in the ignition, but in the "off" position, the app on the
smartphone comes back with a message saying, "Cannot start, key in
ignition".


How does your smart app on your phone talk to your track? Does your truck have a SIM card with service, or does it link via bluetooth or WiFi?



It's via WiFi and the OnStar service. They have an app for your
cellphone. I just got an email from OnStar giving me my mileage,
remaining oil life and a reminder it's time for a oil change and tire
rotation. It's like having a Nanny watching you.



Mr. Luddite[_4_] January 8th 18 02:59 PM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On 1/8/2018 8:31 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 8:19:41 AM UTC-5, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 1/8/2018 6:57 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


Regarding # 4 in your list:

For what it's worth my remote start will only work twice (two, 10 min.
cycles). A third attempt to remote start won't work until the key is
inserted and turned to "on" or after the truck has been started normally
using the key. After that the remote will work again for another 2
cycles. However, John has said that his remote will initially start
his truck but then it dies after a few seconds. That's not normal.

Mine will remote start (using my second key/FOB) if the other key/FOB
set is in the truck but not inserted in the ignition. I can also remote
start it using the GMC app that's in my smartphone. If I try doing that
with the key in the ignition, but in the "off" position, the app on the
smartphone comes back with a message saying, "Cannot start, key in
ignition".





Logic tells me that 4 or 8 could be the only things on that list
that could cause shutdown after start.


I'd narrow it down even more to #8. With the three codes that John's getting, it's hard to believe the CEL isn't on. Maybe the CEL bulb is burned out?



Don't think so. If he left his key in the ignition the remote start
wouldn't start the truck at all. However, it would if he just left the
keys sitting on the seat or console. Remember, John said his remote
will start the truck but it shuts down within a few seconds.



Its Me January 8th 18 03:20 PM

Speaking of remote starters...
 
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 9:59:37 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2018 8:31 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 8:19:41 AM UTC-5, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 1/8/2018 6:57 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:40:34 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:59:51 -0500, John H
wrote:

Upon hooking up the OBD scanner, I get a C0899 (Device voltage low), a C0561 (ABS disabled, invalid
serial data received), and P0673 (#3 Glow plug circuit). The first (and maybe the second) may be due
to low batteries, which I've treated badly this winter - only short trips to the store, etc. Trips
that should have been made walking or riding a motorcycle. So, the charger is on, and we'll see what
happens when the batteries are up to snuff.

"Glow plug" figured prominently in those threads I read about remote
start not working. It might be worth a shot. Does it run a little
rough for a minute on a regular start? I don't know a lot about
diesels but I am guessing if a glow plug was not working, it would
miss a bit until it started "dieseling"
It may just be a loose connection I guess.

Oh, and charging the batteries didn't change any of the readings. Looks like I've got an ABS problem
and a glow plug problem.


10 things to check:
Improper Starting Procedure
Vehicle Not in ?Park?
Too Many Remote Start Attempts
Coolant and Oil Pressure
Unlatched Hood
Hazard Warning Lights
The Key is in the Car
Check Engine Light
Dead Keyfob Battery
Check the Manual-
x


Regarding # 4 in your list:

For what it's worth my remote start will only work twice (two, 10 min.
cycles). A third attempt to remote start won't work until the key is
inserted and turned to "on" or after the truck has been started normally
using the key. After that the remote will work again for another 2
cycles. However, John has said that his remote will initially start
his truck but then it dies after a few seconds. That's not normal.

Mine will remote start (using my second key/FOB) if the other key/FOB
set is in the truck but not inserted in the ignition. I can also remote
start it using the GMC app that's in my smartphone. If I try doing that
with the key in the ignition, but in the "off" position, the app on the
smartphone comes back with a message saying, "Cannot start, key in
ignition".





Logic tells me that 4 or 8 could be the only things on that list
that could cause shutdown after start.


I'd narrow it down even more to #8. With the three codes that John's getting, it's hard to believe the CEL isn't on. Maybe the CEL bulb is burned out?



Don't think so. If he left his key in the ignition the remote start
wouldn't start the truck at all. However, it would if he just left the
keys sitting on the seat or console. Remember, John said his remote
will start the truck but it shuts down within a few seconds.


I did the same thing... don't count line #1, "10 things to check". #8 is the "Check engine light". # 7 is the key.


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