43 and a half hours without power...
 

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/7/18 10:18 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 23:10:39 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:42:35 UTC-4, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Now I'm ready to move on one of those Honda 2000 generators.
Contacted both local dealerships and all 1000 and 2000 model
generators were sold before I got there. D'oh.

Shipments on way from Montreal. These models are costly here...a
hair over 1K for the smaller unit and just over 1.3K for the 2000
plus HST and a PDI and freight charge of $75.00. Outrageous...first
that crap started with cars and then new boats. Now on generators??

By the way it was just below 45 degrees F inside our house this morning.
No country for girliemen Jack Goff.

Bundle up real good. Have you put a deposit on a genset yet?
Better yet prepay for one and go to the head of the line. How is
your house heated? Please don't say elec. Have you protected your
pipes from freezing? How about your heating system? Watch out for
spoiled food in your freezer and fridge. Hopefully you are
keeping your dog warm.
Good luck, buddy.
--
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Oops..meant to say we were back on power when I sent that message.
Just work up from a snooze on the reclining chair...all this heat is getting to me.
We actually lost power early in the storm at 1505hrs on Thursday
afternoon. Power company arrived quick enough..but only to secure the
wire knocked down by a large tree branch a few hundred feet up the
street. It took a full 24 hours for the city crew to show up to cut
the big hanging tree limb down and then 3 power company trucks show up
at 0720hrs this morning. Took them about 4 hours to fix whatever had
to be fixed in very cold windy weather. I'm still waiting to see how
our tropical fish fare. Spring Spaniel great but we put ont one of
his jackets this morning. It was getting real cold inside and out. We
do have electric baseboard heating. Thought it was a good clean,
relatively cheap conversion from the former oil furnace (converted
from coal in 1959) that only send warm air upwards through a floor
grate in our entrance hallway. House built during WW2 and guy who
owned it was tight with a dollar.
Anyway, all is good now but after losing power to a fallen limb and
then Hurricane Juan back in 2003 and then this weeks storm, if may be
time to prepare better....especially since winds keep getting
stronger. (there's your Global Warming at work).
As far as the generator, I want something that is easilt transported.
The ones left at the dealership were big and expensive..and heavy.
One 2800w model roughly the same price as the 2000I weighed almost
twice as much. Can't rely on the wife to carry her end on something like that anymore.

"work up"?
"we put ont one..."?
"easilt"?

Nice job, spelling cop.

Hands and brain were still partially frozen...what's your excuse?


Alex is a snarky little dip****.


Not really. Payback is tough. Eh?

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 05:29:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/6/2018 6:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:40:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/6/2018 4:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 14:09:52 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/6/2018 1:11 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:42:35 UTC-4, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Now I'm ready to move on one of those Honda 2000 generators. Contacted both local dealerships and all 1000 and 2000 model generators were sold before I got there. D'oh.

Shipments on way from Montreal. These models are costly here...a hair over 1K for the smaller unit and just over 1.3K for the 2000 plus HST and a PDI and freight charge of $75.00. Outrageous...first that crap started with cars and then new boats. Now on generators??

By the way it was just below 45 degrees F inside our house this morning.
No country for girliemen Jack Goff.


Bundle up real good. Have you put a deposit on a genset yet?
Better yet prepay for one and go to the head of the line. How is
your house heated? Please don't say elec. Have you protected your
pipes from freezing? How about your heating system? Watch out for
spoiled food in your freezer and fridge. Hopefully you are
keeping your dog warm.
Good luck, buddy.
--
x


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Oops..meant to say we were back on power when I sent that message. Just work up from a snooze on the reclining chair...all this heat is getting to me.
We actually lost power early in the storm at 1505hrs on Thursday afternoon. Power company arrived quick enough..but only to secure the wire knocked down by a large tree branch a few hundred feet up the street. It took a full 24 hours for the city crew to show up to cut the big hanging tree limb down and then 3 power company trucks show up at 0720hrs this morning. Took them about 4 hours to fix whatever had to be fixed in very cold windy weather. I'm still waiting to see how our tropical fish fare. Spring Spaniel great but we put ont one of his jackets this morning. It was getting real cold inside and out. We do have electric baseboard heating. Thought it was a good clean, relatively cheap conversion from the former oil furnace (converted from coal in 1959) that only send warm air upwards through a floor grate in our entrance hallway. House built during WW2 and guy who owned it was tight with a dollar.
Anyway, all is good now but after losing power to a fallen limb and then Hurricane Juan back in 2003 and then this weeks storm, if may be time to prepare better....especially since winds keep getting stronger. (there's your Global Warming at work).
As far as the generator, I want something that is easilt transported. The ones left at the dealership were big and expensive..and heavy. One 2800w model roughly the same price as the 2000I weighed almost twice as much. Can't rely on the wife to carry her end on something like that anymore.



I've never used one of these but it might be worth looking into:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DuraHeat-23-800-BTU-Indoor-Kerosene-Portable-Heater-DH2304/100045793?MERCH=REC-_-PIPHorizontal1_rr-_-204700349-_-100045793-_-N

I have one but not exactly like that.
We have not used it for over 25 years tho.
I would have to dig through my pictures but it was a christmas many
years ago when we had the power out and sub 40s temps.
I did get a kick out of the "economical kerosene" line.
I guess maybe if you can still find a K1 pump somewhere it might be
$3-4 a gallon but if you are buying it in a gallon jug at the Home
Depot it is $11 a gallon.



This looks like an updated, modern version of ones I've seen in the
past. No electrical power required. Ignition is via a battery. But,
I've never had or used one so I don't know the pros or cons.

I know this may be hard for you to understand but when you have no heat
and it's in the single digits outside, the cost of kerosene isn't the
driver. BTW, this rig runs on just about anything ... kerosene, home
heating oil, jet fuel ... etc.



It is true that if it burns, these things can use it but the smell
becomes an issue because they are not really vented anywhere.
I got this from my grandfather who used it in his "cabana", an
aluminum and glass sun room back in the olden days. Even as leaky as
that was, he said diesel was too stinky to use. K1 kerosene or paint
thinner/mineral spirits would be my go to fuel but they are all silly
expensive these days. I did see Rural king will sell you 2.5 gallons
for $17. That is not horrible if you are freezing but still about
twice as much as using toaster wire heat, which brings me back to the
line in the ad about "economical" kerosene.
I am not even sure where I would find a place with a kerosene pump.
The last time I bought some it was 40 miles from here in Punta Gorda.
(25 years ago) I was there anyway so it was not a big deal but I did
drive around with the can in my car for days before I found one.
There s a bulk plant in Ft Myers but I am not sure if they would
really be interested in only selling a couple gallons.

This is like the one I have
https://tinyurl.com/yadk287b




I was wrong. I confused the specs on the indoor heater with a salamanda
type heater that can burn different fuels. The indoor one burns
kerosene only.

Years ago I had a salamada that I used to heat a shed. I stuck it in
the doorway with only the exhaust end barely in the shed.

I wonder if "White Gas" is still sold. As a kid I can remember my
father buying it at gas stations from a separate fuel pump.

I haven't heard of white gas for 50 years. My father said as close as
you could get was Amoco premium unleaded. (all he ever used in his
cars)
Now days I suppose that would be Rec90. It is still going to have
additives in it tho. There is always Coleman fuel. (where most people
used white gas anyway).

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:44:05 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 05:29:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I wonder if "White Gas" is still sold. As a kid I can remember my
father buying it at gas stations from a separate fuel pump.

===

If my memory is correct, the only difference with "white gas" was that
it was unleaded, and therefore suitable for cooking with a Coleman
camping stove and the like. These days all gasoline, except possibly
aviation fuel, is unleaded.

http://www.sears.com/coleman-guide-series-174-dual-fuel-8482-stove/p-00620895000P?sid=IDx01192011x202447779&gclid=EAIaI QobChMI9qz5zfzF2AIViLfACh3GDwRAEAQYBSABEgL0ifD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COqGpNf8xdgCFZYeHwodDGECQA

These were very popular back in the 50s but I haven't seen one in
years.


Reminds me of the old Red Skelton joke.

Guy jumps out of a plane and his chute doesn't open and as he is
falling he sees a guy coming up at him. He hollers down
"do you know anything about parachutes"?
The guy answers as he passes by
"No, do you know anything about Coleman stoves"?

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 06:02:54 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:44:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 05:29:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I wonder if "White Gas" is still sold. As a kid I can remember my
father buying it at gas stations from a separate fuel pump.

===

If my memory is correct, the only difference with "white gas" was that
it was unleaded, and therefore suitable for cooking with a Coleman
camping stove and the like. These days all gasoline, except possibly
aviation fuel, is unleaded.

http://www.sears.com/coleman-guide-series-174-dual-fuel-8482-stove/p-00620895000P?sid=IDx01192011x202447779&gclid=EAIaI QobChMI9qz5zfzF2AIViLfACh3GDwRAEAQYBSABEgL0ifD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COqGpNf8xdgCFZYeHwodDGECQA

These were very popular back in the 50s but I haven't seen one in
years.

I used a propane version of one in the '80s. I still have a Coleman lantern that runs on white gas. You always had to keep a supply of the cloth mantles handy... one decent bump and it fell apart.

I still have 3 of those lanterns and one that runs on propane. I keep
a bag of mantels tied to the handle of each of them. We did use the
propane one during Irma for a little while until I got the generator
going. The mantel was still OK from Charley or I would not have fooled
with it.
Since then we got a LED lantern. I may be sending the Colemans to the
Smithsonian. I doubt the grand kids would know what they were or
understand why we had them. ;-)
I think the perfect combo would be a LED with a LiON battery that you
can recharge from the car or 120vAC. The problem is the battery would
probably be bad by the time you used it unless you were a camper.
Like I said, my Coleman was not used since 2004.
In that sense, D cells may still be the way to go. Again the problem
is what else uses D cells these days?

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 07:18:44 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 6 January 2018 23:10:39 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:42:35 UTC-4, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Now I'm ready to move on one of those Honda 2000 generators. Contacted both local dealerships and all 1000 and 2000 model generators were sold before I got there. D'oh.

Shipments on way from Montreal. These models are costly here...a hair over 1K for the smaller unit and just over 1.3K for the 2000 plus HST and a PDI and freight charge of $75.00. Outrageous...first that crap started with cars and then new boats. Now on generators??

By the way it was just below 45 degrees F inside our house this morning.
No country for girliemen Jack Goff.

Bundle up real good. Have you put a deposit on a genset yet?
Better yet prepay for one and go to the head of the line. How is
your house heated? Please don't say elec. Have you protected your
pipes from freezing? How about your heating system? Watch out for
spoiled food in your freezer and fridge. Hopefully you are
keeping your dog warm.
Good luck, buddy.
--
x


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Oops..meant to say we were back on power when I sent that message. Just work up from a snooze on the reclining chair...all this heat is getting to me.
We actually lost power early in the storm at 1505hrs on Thursday afternoon. Power company arrived quick enough..but only to secure the wire knocked down by a large tree branch a few hundred feet up the street. It took a full 24 hours for the city crew to show up to cut the big hanging tree limb down and then 3 power company trucks show up at 0720hrs this morning. Took them about 4 hours to fix whatever had to be fixed in very cold windy weather. I'm still waiting to see how our tropical fish fare. Spring Spaniel great but we put ont one of his jackets this morning. It was getting real cold inside and out. We do have electric baseboard heating. Thought it was a good clean, relatively cheap conversion from the former oil furnace (converted from coal in 1959) that only send warm air upwards through a floor grate in our entrance hallway. House built during WW2 and guy who owned it was tight with a dollar.
Anyway, all is good now but after losing power to a fallen limb and then Hurricane Juan back in 2003 and then this weeks storm, if may be time to prepare better....especially since winds keep getting stronger. (there's your Global Warming at work).
As far as the generator, I want something that is easilt transported. The ones left at the dealership were big and expensive..and heavy. One 2800w model roughly the same price as the 2000I weighed almost twice as much. Can't rely on the wife to carry her end on something like that anymore.

"work up"?
"we put ont one..."?
"easilt"?

Nice job, spelling cop.

Hands and brain were still partially frozen...what's your excuse?

Not to be mean, but it is a fact that one reaps what one sows. Maybe if you stopped being so quick
to jump, you would be jumped on so quickly.

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On 1/7/18 11:15 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/7/18 10:18 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 23:10:39 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:42:35 UTC-4, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Now I'm ready to move on one of those Honda 2000 generators.
Contacted both local dealerships and all 1000 and 2000 model
generators were sold before I got there. D'oh.

Shipments on way from Montreal. These models are costly here...a
hair over 1K for the smaller unit and just over 1.3K for the 2000
plus HST and a PDI and freight charge of $75.00. Outrageous...first
that crap started with cars and then new boats. Now on generators??

By the way it was just below 45 degrees F inside our house this morning.
No country for girliemen Jack Goff.

Bundle up real good. Have you put a deposit on a genset yet?
Better yet prepay for one and go to the head of the line. How is
your house heated? Please don't say elec. Have you protected your
pipes from freezing? How about your heating system? Watch out for
spoiled food in your freezer and fridge. Hopefully you are
keeping your dog warm.
Good luck, buddy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Oops..meant to say we were back on power when I sent that message.
Just work up from a snooze on the reclining chair...all this heat is getting to me.
We actually lost power early in the storm at 1505hrs on Thursday
afternoon. Power company arrived quick enough..but only to secure the
wire knocked down by a large tree branch a few hundred feet up the
street. It took a full 24 hours for the city crew to show up to cut
the big hanging tree limb down and then 3 power company trucks show up
at 0720hrs this morning. Took them about 4 hours to fix whatever had
to be fixed in very cold windy weather. I'm still waiting to see how
our tropical fish fare. Spring Spaniel great but we put ont one of
his jackets this morning. It was getting real cold inside and out. We
do have electric baseboard heating. Thought it was a good clean,
relatively cheap conversion from the former oil furnace (converted
from coal in 1959) that only send warm air upwards through a floor
grate in our entrance hallway. House built during WW2 and guy who
owned it was tight with a dollar.
Anyway, all is good now but after losing power to a fallen limb and
then Hurricane Juan back in 2003 and then this weeks storm, if may be
time to prepare better....especially since winds keep getting
stronger. (there's your Global Warming at work).
As far as the generator, I want something that is easilt transported.
The ones left at the dealership were big and expensive..and heavy.
One 2800w model roughly the same price as the 2000I weighed almost
twice as much. Can't rely on the wife to carry her end on something like that anymore.

"work up"?
"we put ont one..."?
"easilt"?

Nice job, spelling cop.

Hands and brain were still partially frozen...what's your excuse?


Alex is a snarky little dip****.


Not really. Payback is tough. Eh?


Say what? Payback? Alex is a snarky little dip****

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On Sunday, 7 January 2018 12:48:44 UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 06:02:54 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:44:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 05:29:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I wonder if "White Gas" is still sold. As a kid I can remember my
father buying it at gas stations from a separate fuel pump.

===

If my memory is correct, the only difference with "white gas" was that
it was unleaded, and therefore suitable for cooking with a Coleman
camping stove and the like. These days all gasoline, except possibly
aviation fuel, is unleaded.

http://www.sears.com/coleman-guide-series-174-dual-fuel-8482-stove/p-00620895000P?sid=IDx01192011x202447779&gclid=EAIaI QobChMI9qz5zfzF2AIViLfACh3GDwRAEAQYBSABEgL0ifD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COqGpNf8xdgCFZYeHwodDGECQA

These were very popular back in the 50s but I haven't seen one in
years.

I used a propane version of one in the '80s. I still have a Coleman lantern that runs on white gas. You always had to keep a supply of the cloth mantles handy... one decent bump and it fell apart.

I still have 3 of those lanterns and one that runs on propane. I keep
a bag of mantels tied to the handle of each of them. We did use the
propane one during Irma for a little while until I got the generator
going. The mantel was still OK from Charley or I would not have fooled
with it.
Since then we got a LED lantern. I may be sending the Colemans to the
Smithsonian. I doubt the grand kids would know what they were or
understand why we had them. ;-)
I think the perfect combo would be a LED with a LiON battery that you
can recharge from the car or 120vAC. The problem is the battery would
probably be bad by the time you used it unless you were a camper.
Like I said, my Coleman was not used since 2004.
In that sense, D cells may still be the way to go. Again the problem
is what else uses D cells these days?

I was looking at my Coleman lantern with it's unused mantle stored in the basement for at least 25 years. They do give off a lot of heat besides light. i should see if naptha gas is available locally.

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On Sunday, 7 January 2018 13:12:36 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 07:18:44 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 6 January 2018 23:10:39 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:42:35 UTC-4, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
Now I'm ready to move on one of those Honda 2000 generators. Contacted both local dealerships and all 1000 and 2000 model generators were sold before I got there. D'oh.

Shipments on way from Montreal. These models are costly here...a hair over 1K for the smaller unit and just over 1.3K for the 2000 plus HST and a PDI and freight charge of $75.00. Outrageous...first that crap started with cars and then new boats. Now on generators??

By the way it was just below 45 degrees F inside our house this morning.
No country for girliemen Jack Goff.

Bundle up real good. Have you put a deposit on a genset yet?
Better yet prepay for one and go to the head of the line. How is
your house heated? Please don't say elec. Have you protected your
pipes from freezing? How about your heating system? Watch out for
spoiled food in your freezer and fridge. Hopefully you are
keeping your dog warm.
Good luck, buddy.
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Oops..meant to say we were back on power when I sent that message. Just work up from a snooze on the reclining chair...all this heat is getting to me.
We actually lost power early in the storm at 1505hrs on Thursday afternoon. Power company arrived quick enough..but only to secure the wire knocked down by a large tree branch a few hundred feet up the street. It took a full 24 hours for the city crew to show up to cut the big hanging tree limb down and then 3 power company trucks show up at 0720hrs this morning. Took them about 4 hours to fix whatever had to be fixed in very cold windy weather. I'm still waiting to see how our tropical fish fare. Spring Spaniel great but we put ont one of his jackets this morning. It was getting real cold inside and out. We do have electric baseboard heating. Thought it was a good clean, relatively cheap conversion from the former oil furnace (converted from coal in 1959) that only send warm air upwards through a floor grate in our entrance hallway. House built during WW2 and guy who owned it was tight with a dollar.
Anyway, all is good now but after losing power to a fallen limb and then Hurricane Juan back in 2003 and then this weeks storm, if may be time to prepare better....especially since winds keep getting stronger. (there's your Global Warming at work).
As far as the generator, I want something that is easilt transported.. The ones left at the dealership were big and expensive..and heavy. One 2800w model roughly the same price as the 2000I weighed almost twice as much.. Can't rely on the wife to carry her end on something like that anymore.

"work up"?
"we put ont one..."?
"easilt"?

Nice job, spelling cop.

Hands and brain were still partially frozen...what's your excuse?

Not to be mean, but it is a fact that one reaps what one sows. Maybe if you stopped being so quick
to jump, you would be jumped on so quickly.

Say what??
"Maybe if you stopped being so quick to jump, you would be jumped on so quickly."

Are you saying that I would be jumped on no matter what I do?
Explain yourself!

43 and a half hours without power...
 

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 17:34:11 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Sunday, 7 January 2018 12:48:44 UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 06:02:54 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:44:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 05:29:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I wonder if "White Gas" is still sold. As a kid I can remember my
father buying it at gas stations from a separate fuel pump.

===

If my memory is correct, the only difference with "white gas" was that
it was unleaded, and therefore suitable for cooking with a Coleman
camping stove and the like. These days all gasoline, except possibly
aviation fuel, is unleaded.

http://www.sears.com/coleman-guide-series-174-dual-fuel-8482-stove/p-00620895000P?sid=IDx01192011x202447779&gclid=EAIaI QobChMI9qz5zfzF2AIViLfACh3GDwRAEAQYBSABEgL0ifD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COqGpNf8xdgCFZYeHwodDGECQA

These were very popular back in the 50s but I haven't seen one in
years.

I used a propane version of one in the '80s. I still have a Coleman lantern that runs on white gas. You always had to keep a supply of the cloth mantles handy... one decent bump and it fell apart.

I still have 3 of those lanterns and one that runs on propane. I keep
a bag of mantels tied to the handle of each of them. We did use the
propane one during Irma for a little while until I got the generator
going. The mantel was still OK from Charley or I would not have fooled
with it.
Since then we got a LED lantern. I may be sending the Colemans to the
Smithsonian. I doubt the grand kids would know what they were or
understand why we had them. ;-)
I think the perfect combo would be a LED with a LiON battery that you
can recharge from the car or 120vAC. The problem is the battery would
probably be bad by the time you used it unless you were a camper.
Like I said, my Coleman was not used since 2004.
In that sense, D cells may still be the way to go. Again the problem
is what else uses D cells these days?

I was looking at my Coleman lantern with it's unused mantle stored in the basement for at least 25 years. They do give off a lot of heat besides light. i should see if naptha gas is available locally.

For the little bit of fuel they burn, you are about as well off just
buying Coleman fuel. I assume if it is still in the sealed can, it
lasts forever. I had an open can and I used it for shop solvent but I
still have a new one that has been here for 30 years.

43 and a half hours without power...
 

wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 17:34:11 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Sunday, 7 January 2018 12:48:44 UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 06:02:54 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:44:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 05:29:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I wonder if "White Gas" is still sold. As a kid I can remember my
father buying it at gas stations from a separate fuel pump.

===

If my memory is correct, the only difference with "white gas" was that
it was unleaded, and therefore suitable for cooking with a Coleman
camping stove and the like. These days all gasoline, except possibly
aviation fuel, is unleaded.

http://www.sears.com/coleman-guide-series-174-dual-fuel-8482-stove/p-00620895000P?sid=IDx01192011x202447779&gclid=EAIaI QobChMI9qz5zfzF2AIViLfACh3GDwRAEAQYBSABEgL0ifD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COqGpNf8xdgCFZYeHwodDGECQA

These were very popular back in the 50s but I haven't seen one in
years.

I used a propane version of one in the '80s. I still have a Coleman
lantern that runs on white gas. You always had to keep a supply of
the cloth mantles handy... one decent bump and it fell apart.

I still have 3 of those lanterns and one that runs on propane. I keep
a bag of mantels tied to the handle of each of them. We did use the
propane one during Irma for a little while until I got the generator
going. The mantel was still OK from Charley or I would not have fooled
with it.
Since then we got a LED lantern. I may be sending the Colemans to the
Smithsonian. I doubt the grand kids would know what they were or
understand why we had them. ;-)
I think the perfect combo would be a LED with a LiON battery that you
can recharge from the car or 120vAC. The problem is the battery would
probably be bad by the time you used it unless you were a camper.
Like I said, my Coleman was not used since 2004.
In that sense, D cells may still be the way to go. Again the problem
is what else uses D cells these days?

I was looking at my Coleman lantern with it's unused mantle stored in
the basement for at least 25 years. They do give off a lot of heat
besides light. i should see if naptha gas is available locally.

For the little bit of fuel they burn, you are about as well off just
buying Coleman fuel. I assume if it is still in the sealed can, it
lasts forever. I had an open can and I used it for shop solvent but I
still have a new one that has been here for 30 years.


I gave my Coleman fuel can away a couple years ago, to a guy with the
liquid fuel stove. I have propane lanterns and stove, and a refiller for
the 16oz cans. The lanterns are hot enough to toast bread on the top.
Actually do a good job toasting bread.