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So cold!
On 1/4/2018 9:04 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:12:38 -0500, Alex wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:39:19 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. No. Standing outside the truck. Using the remote, hit the lock, hit starter button, hold it about 7 seconds, truck starts - everthing normal so far. But within about two seconds the engine stops. Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I've got one, just haven't learned to set it up and use it yet. Will do so today, maybe, it's pretty cold outside. That feature chart for that particular one says it doesn't support diesel vehicles. Hopefully it's wrong, or you have a different one that does. It will come up with a code for "engine missing". |
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#53
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So cold!
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 06:04:53 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:12:38 -0500, Alex wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:39:19 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. No. Standing outside the truck. Using the remote, hit the lock, hit starter button, hold it about 7 seconds, truck starts - everthing normal so far. But within about two seconds the engine stops. Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I've got one, just haven't learned to set it up and use it yet. Will do so today, maybe, it's pretty cold outside. That feature chart for that particular one says it doesn't support diesel vehicles. Hopefully it's wrong, or you have a different one that does. I've got this one: https://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP9580...ct_top?ie=UTF8 |
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#54
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So cold!
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:17:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/4/2018 9:04 AM, Its Me wrote: On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:12:38 -0500, Alex wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:39:19 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. No. Standing outside the truck. Using the remote, hit the lock, hit starter button, hold it about 7 seconds, truck starts - everthing normal so far. But within about two seconds the engine stops. Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I've got one, just haven't learned to set it up and use it yet. Will do so today, maybe, it's pretty cold outside. That feature chart for that particular one says it doesn't support diesel vehicles. Hopefully it's wrong, or you have a different one that does. It will come up with a code for "engine missing".  |
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#55
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So cold!
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 9:27:48 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 06:04:53 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:12:38 -0500, Alex wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:39:19 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. No. Standing outside the truck. Using the remote, hit the lock, hit starter button, hold it about 7 seconds, truck starts - everthing normal so far. But within about two seconds the engine stops. Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I've got one, just haven't learned to set it up and use it yet. Will do so today, maybe, it's pretty cold outside. That feature chart for that particular one says it doesn't support diesel vehicles. Hopefully it's wrong, or you have a different one that does. I've got this one: https://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP9580...ct_top?ie=UTF8 Yeah, I have a model of Actron scanner as well. Works great, easy to use. Good luck with your starter problem! |
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#56
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So cold!
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 9:17:45 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/4/2018 9:04 AM, Its Me wrote: On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:44:49 AM UTC-5, John H wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:12:38 -0500, Alex wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:39:19 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. No. Standing outside the truck. Using the remote, hit the lock, hit starter button, hold it about 7 seconds, truck starts - everthing normal so far. But within about two seconds the engine stops. Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I've got one, just haven't learned to set it up and use it yet. Will do so today, maybe, it's pretty cold outside. That feature chart for that particular one says it doesn't support diesel vehicles. Hopefully it's wrong, or you have a different one that does. It will come up with a code for "engine missing". Or at least, "Hey! Somebody stole your spark plugs!" |
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#57
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:43:37 -0500, John H
wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:13:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/3/2018 3:18 PM, wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:28:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/3/2018 9:51 AM, John H wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 05:26:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 9:39 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:28:38 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:07:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:47:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 09:45:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/2/2018 8:31 AM, John H wrote: A friend reported it was so cold this morning that he actually saw a liberal with his hands in his own pockets! Pushing 12F right now. A regular heat wave. I'll take it. Eyeing this potential coastal storm for Thurs - Fri. Might luck out and have it go too far out to sea. Otherwise ... Only problem is that after it passes, the cold returns with overnight lows predicted to be minus 8 or so. That's temp, not wind chill. This has been one of the coldest December/January months I can remember having for a long time. Soon will break a 100 year record for temps remaining below 20 (F). For the past week the daytime temps haven't even got close to 20, staying in the low to mid teens at best. 0 degrees yesterday morning. This morning it actually warmed up to 3 degrees. Remote starter getting a workout! :-) My remote starter, which has been working just fine for years, decided to go haywire. The truck starts, runs about three seconds and dies. A 'check engine' light showed up about two weeks ago, and I've not yet run the diagnostics. Maybe they are related. That could be a bad sensor. It runs in "open cycle" when it first starts then switches to "closed cycle" where the ECU controls the emissions and a bad O2 sensor or MAF sensor can screw up the mix enough so it stalls at idle. If I start it with the key in the ignition, there's no problem at all. I've had an MAF sensor go bad. That affects the running of the truck. Don't think that's the problem, or at least I hope not. Those damn sensors are not cheap. Are you touching the gas pedal? Nobody does that with the remote. Don't know how John's diesel truck works but both my former Ford F-350 diesel and John Deere tractor diesel had glow plugs. I didn't have a remote starter for either. In the truck you'd turn the ignition key to "on" and a glow plug light would illuminate. You waited for it to go out (only took a few seconds) and then you'd start it. On the tractor the procedure to start in cold weather was to advance the hand throttle control to almost full throttle, turn the key to the left for about 15-20 seconds that would heat up the glow plug and then turn to the right to start, with your other hand on the throttle arm. As soon as it fired, you pulled the throttle back to idle. I don't even know if John's truck has a glow plug. Yeah, I've got eight of the little *******s. And they're a pain in the ass to change. But, I would think the glow plug process would be part of the remote start process when it's cold. You'd think. Is there a delay from the time you push the remote to start it until the engine actually turns over? The glow plugs need a few seconds to heat up. Maybe your remote is designed more for using in hot weather where you want to start the AC ahead of time. If it fires at all the glow plugs did all they can do the way I understand it but maybe the cylinders are still not hot enough to support combustion. Try starting it normally, run it a minute or so, turn it off, then try the remote start. Speaking of starting ... In anticipation of this "winter hurricane" all the weather people are talking about I dragged my old faithful Honda E-2000 out of the shed to start it up and get it ready for probable use. Last time I ran it it was about 2 months ago and then it had fired up on 2 or 3 pulls. This time ... no go. I must have pulled the damn cord a hundred times and it wouldn't even burp. Tried full choke, half choke, no choke. Took the plug out, cleaned it, but it looked fine. Tried starting again but no joy in Mudville. It's been really cold here for over a week with nighttime temps dropping to zero several times. Highs no higher than mid teens. I was ready to quit but just for kicks, I took the side cover off, got a hair dryer and with it set on low I directed warm air on the carburetor area. Only did it for 3 or 4 minutes because I really didn't think it would help. Put the hair dryer down, pulled the cord and rrrrroooommmm .... fired right up. Only thing I can think of is there was some moisture in the gas (even though I had put some Stabil in it) and it froze on the float assembly or something. I let it run for over an hour and it ran just fine. Good tip. Thanks. Was going to suggest putting it in the house overnight. But the hair dryer was probably quicker. That is one good thing about the propane kit I have on mine, no gasoline to varnish up or collect water. I am not sure how frigid cold would affect it tho. I still would end up on gasoline if I had to run for a week or more like Irma tho. I imagine I could get it going on propane and switch it over running if I could move the valves fast enough. |
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#58
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So cold!
On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:47:57 -0500, John H
wrote: On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:53:47 -0500, wrote: Have you searched around the internet? This may be a known problem. Of course I've searched around. I've asked you guys. Who the hell would be more knowledgeable? I know Harry knows the answer, but he's playing hard to get. :) There are several articles about that problem, all centering on some "safety" cut off. (Low oil pressure to low tire pressure) and a number of them still say they have no codes. It does seem to be something that happens. |
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#59
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:36:46 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:47:57 -0500, John H wrote: On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:53:47 -0500, wrote: Have you searched around the internet? This may be a known problem. Of course I've searched around. I've asked you guys. Who the hell would be more knowledgeable? I know Harry knows the answer, but he's playing hard to get. :) There are several articles about that problem, all centering on some "safety" cut off. (Low oil pressure to low tire pressure) and a number of them still say they have no codes. It does seem to be something that happens. Well, what the hey. A new truck with everything mine has would run around 64K, with payments over $1000 for five years. If I have to fork out $1000 a year for repairs, I'm coming out well ahead of the game. And I'm helping to keep some mechanic employed. |
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#60
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On 1/4/2018 1:03 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:36:46 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:47:57 -0500, John H wrote: On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:53:47 -0500, wrote: Have you searched around the internet? This may be a known problem. Of course I've searched around. I've asked you guys. Who the hell would be more knowledgeable? I know Harry knows the answer, but he's playing hard to get. :) There are several articles about that problem, all centering on some "safety" cut off. (Low oil pressure to low tire pressure) and a number of them still say they have no codes. It does seem to be something that happens. Well, what the hey. A new truck with everything mine has would run around 64K, with payments over $1000 for five years. If I have to fork out $1000 a year for repairs, I'm coming out well ahead of the game. And I'm helping to keep some mechanic employed. Betcha a brand new truck like yours runs much more than 64K. I priced them recently. A fully equipped diesel is closer to 100k. |
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