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On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:09:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
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On 12/30/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:12:35 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

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On 30 Dec 2017 15:41:38 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:


Fraid not. In fact, it's difficult to find a snow shovel south of
the Mason/Dixon line.

More of your ignorance. Look up Masons and Dixons Line and get back to us
when you figure out its boundaries.

It is a common mistake. Most people do not know Md and DC are below
the Mason Dixon. In fact it really had little to do with the civil war
at all. It was to settle a property dispute 100 years earlier.
James Taylor and Mark Knopfler have a great song about it.
Beautiful guitar work
"Sailing to Philadelphia"


Actually , I remember crossing that line on I 81 in Md. Tracing
the line doesn't concern me. Southern Md. Is to me, as backward
as Appalachia.

Actually you passed it on the Pennsylvania state line with Maryland.

Southern Md is rapidly losing that rural character you remember as
they keep pushing the acceptable commute from DC farther out.
I am old enough to remember when they thought near in PG near where
the beltway is now was about as far as a DC commuter wanted to drive.
(or take a bus). The WM&A (Maryland) bus service stopped just the
other side of Oxon Hill road in Southlawn. DC Transit stopped at the
DC line and you were walking from there.
If you went any farther than that it was on a Greyhound.



There still are a lot of farms down here and on the other side of the
Pax River past Solomons.

Maryland ranks second in the nation in the percentage of residents with
grad degrees and third in the percentage of residents with undergrad
degrees.

Florida ranks 29th and 31st.

https://is.gd/eqoU8W

Maryland ranks fifth in median hourly wages. Florida isn't in the top 10.

Florida is more like Appalachia the Maryland.

So you have a lot of educated bureaucrats who choose to live away from
DC, What's your point?
I bet any real farmers down there do not figure in those statistics
but I bet most of them are just "tax farmers" growing deductions and
hiding their land from the tax collector by being zoned AG.
All you are doing is making my point that Southern Md has been
genrified by Citiots.


Fat Harry; Florida has more transplanted Yankees than Maryland has
folks that can read and write English or Yiddish.
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On 12/31/17 12:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:09:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/30/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:12:35 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
On 30 Dec 2017 15:41:38 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:


Fraid not. In fact, it's difficult to find a snow shovel south of
the Mason/Dixon line.

More of your ignorance. Look up Masons and Dixons Line and get back to us
when you figure out its boundaries.

It is a common mistake. Most people do not know Md and DC are below
the Mason Dixon. In fact it really had little to do with the civil war
at all. It was to settle a property dispute 100 years earlier.
James Taylor and Mark Knopfler have a great song about it.
Beautiful guitar work
"Sailing to Philadelphia"


Actually , I remember crossing that line on I 81 in Md. Tracing
the line doesn't concern me. Southern Md. Is to me, as backward
as Appalachia.

Actually you passed it on the Pennsylvania state line with Maryland.

Southern Md is rapidly losing that rural character you remember as
they keep pushing the acceptable commute from DC farther out.
I am old enough to remember when they thought near in PG near where
the beltway is now was about as far as a DC commuter wanted to drive.
(or take a bus). The WM&A (Maryland) bus service stopped just the
other side of Oxon Hill road in Southlawn. DC Transit stopped at the
DC line and you were walking from there.
If you went any farther than that it was on a Greyhound.



There still are a lot of farms down here and on the other side of the
Pax River past Solomons.

Maryland ranks second in the nation in the percentage of residents with
grad degrees and third in the percentage of residents with undergrad
degrees.

Florida ranks 29th and 31st.

https://is.gd/eqoU8W

Maryland ranks fifth in median hourly wages. Florida isn't in the top 10.

Florida is more like Appalachia the Maryland.

So you have a lot of educated bureaucrats who choose to live away from
DC, What's your point?
I bet any real farmers down there do not figure in those statistics
but I bet most of them are just "tax farmers" growing deductions and
hiding their land from the tax collector by being zoned AG.
All you are doing is making my point that Southern Md has been
genrified by Citiots.


I wouldn't know what percentage of farmers down here have college
degrees, but if they are like farmers elsewhere, many have gone to aggie
schools to increase their knowledge and perfect their trade. As for the
percentage of "tax farmers," may their tribe increase. It is a useful
gimmick that keeps land from being turned into large subdivisions.
Speaking of farms, last week for the first time I took a back road from
near Annapolis to Waysons Corners instead of my usual route. Lovely
rural drive, old farm houses, et cetera.

On 12/31/17 8:02 AM, justan wrote:
Wrote in message:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:09:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/30/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:12:35 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
On 30 Dec 2017 15:41:38 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:


Fraid not. In fact, it's difficult to find a snow shovel south of
the Mason/Dixon line.

More of your ignorance. Look up Masons and Dixons Line and get back to us
when you figure out its boundaries.

It is a common mistake. Most people do not know Md and DC are below
the Mason Dixon. In fact it really had little to do with the civil war
at all. It was to settle a property dispute 100 years earlier.
James Taylor and Mark Knopfler have a great song about it.
Beautiful guitar work
"Sailing to Philadelphia"


Actually , I remember crossing that line on I 81 in Md. Tracing
the line doesn't concern me. Southern Md. Is to me, as backward
as Appalachia.

Actually you passed it on the Pennsylvania state line with Maryland.

Southern Md is rapidly losing that rural character you remember as
they keep pushing the acceptable commute from DC farther out.
I am old enough to remember when they thought near in PG near where
the beltway is now was about as far as a DC commuter wanted to drive.
(or take a bus). The WM&A (Maryland) bus service stopped just the
other side of Oxon Hill road in Southlawn. DC Transit stopped at the
DC line and you were walking from there.
If you went any farther than that it was on a Greyhound.



There still are a lot of farms down here and on the other side of the
Pax River past Solomons.

Maryland ranks second in the nation in the percentage of residents with
grad degrees and third in the percentage of residents with undergrad
degrees.

Florida ranks 29th and 31st.

https://is.gd/eqoU8W

Maryland ranks fifth in median hourly wages. Florida isn't in the top 10.

Florida is more like Appalachia the Maryland.

So you have a lot of educated bureaucrats who choose to live away from
DC, What's your point?
I bet any real farmers down there do not figure in those statistics
but I bet most of them are just "tax farmers" growing deductions and
hiding their land from the tax collector by being zoned AG.
All you are doing is making my point that Southern Md has been
genrified by Citiots.


Fat Harry; Florida has more transplanted Yankees than Maryland has
folks that can read and write English or Yiddish.


Just when I think you couldn't possibly be as mentally challenged as you
present here, you sink even lower on the IQ scale. Yiddish was the
lingua franca of Eastern European Jews, for the most part, in the 18th
and 19th Centuries and early 20th Centuries, and it "emigrated" to the
United States when many of them did. It was commonly heard when I was
growing up in New Haven. Yes, I am sure Florida has more transplanted
Yankees than Maryland has Yiddish speakers, and the state you
transplanted to has a larger population than Maryland. But you surely
cannot count yourself as one of those transplants with any expertise in
English, Yiddish, or any other language except perhaps navy cuss words.
You're not mentally equipped to engage in games that involve verbal
abilities...best you stick to oozing around in the primordial slime, eh?

Last scientific experiment of 2017:

Had to make an emergency grocery store run earlier this morning.
20F outside, turned on ignition of wife's Toyota in garage...38F on the
car's exterior thermometer...thank goodness!
Obviously, garage sucks up some heat through insulated house walls, for
which I am thankful because once started, the vehicles warm right up.

On Sunday, 31 December 2017 11:13:32 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Last scientific experiment of 2017:

Had to make an emergency grocery store run earlier this morning.
20F outside, turned on ignition of wife's Toyota in garage...38F on the
car's exterior thermometer...thank goodness!
Obviously, garage sucks up some heat through insulated house walls, for
which I am thankful because once started, the vehicles warm right up.

Helps too if the sun beams into any garage windows. Amazing what heat there still is in the sun..even this time of year.

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 05:21:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/30/2017 9:57 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 12/29/2017 9:06 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 29 December 2017 20:32:03 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/29/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
Rethinking my early morning Dunkin' Donuts run.

4 degrees F. right now with a wind chill of minus 5-10.

Got remote start on that Colorado?


Thankfully, yes. This morning I let it run through two complete, 10
minute warm up cycles before I ventured out. Temp had actually dropped
another degree to 3.

Below a certain temp the remote starter also automatically turns on the
seat heater which is nice. Makes a big difference!

From what I've read...warming up while sitting idling isn't good for
the vehicle or the environment. They say it's better to drive away
slowly for the first 5-10 minutes.
I have a dedicated long extension cord that I use to plug in the block
heater. I bought an electric battery blanket also but haven't installed it yet.
An hour before I go anywhere on mornings below -10C, I throw the
inside switch that controls 2 of my 3 outside plugs. The Highlander
starts easily and warms up much faster.

Car manufacturers used to warn about idling a car for long periods
because it was bad for the catalytic converter. Don't know if that's
true anymore as remote starters in cold climates have become very
popular. I don't have a garage and when you use the remote start it
also turns on the windshield and rear window defroster full blast.
Without that benefit, I'd be sitting in the driveway for a while anyway
waiting to see where I was going.

In any event I only use it on these very cold mornings. My total drive
to and from the local Dunkin's is only 10 minutes and I like doing it
without freezing my ass off.


I wish I could remember to use my remote start when my car has
been baking under the hot Florida sun.

That what I use mine for. No need for the cold days but I have turned
on the heated seats when I get in. Leather can be cold even in temps
around 50º.



My wife’s Venza had everything but seat heaters. Did not realize that
until a couple weeks later when she wanted heated seats. My truck is nice
in the heated seat until you accidentally turn them on in the summer.



Couple of the BMW's I had had both heated and air conditioned seats.
Leather had tiny holes in it that allowed the AC to be ducted through.


Judy's Lincoln has that too. It is pretty good when you get in the car
on a hot day but it takes a minute to get going. Maybe we need that
remote start thing too.

On 12/31/17 10:22 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 31 December 2017 11:13:32 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Last scientific experiment of 2017:

Had to make an emergency grocery store run earlier this morning.
20F outside, turned on ignition of wife's Toyota in garage...38F on the
car's exterior thermometer...thank goodness!
Obviously, garage sucks up some heat through insulated house walls, for
which I am thankful because once started, the vehicles warm right up.

Helps too if the sun beams into any garage windows. Amazing what heat there still is in the sun..even this time of year.


My wife had the bedroom fireplace on all night...the cats just shift
from in front of the family room fireplace to in front of the bedroom
fireplace.

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 07:22:56 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Sunday, 31 December 2017 11:13:32 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Last scientific experiment of 2017:

Had to make an emergency grocery store run earlier this morning.
20F outside, turned on ignition of wife's Toyota in garage...38F on the
car's exterior thermometer...thank goodness!
Obviously, garage sucks up some heat through insulated house walls, for
which I am thankful because once started, the vehicles warm right up.

Helps too if the sun beams into any garage windows. Amazing what heat there still is in the sun..even this time of year.

Yup, you really appreciate the sun when it is in the 60s. I still am
in my shorts with no shirt walking the dog.

On Sunday, 31 December 2017 14:28:54 UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 07:22:56 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Sunday, 31 December 2017 11:13:32 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Last scientific experiment of 2017:

Had to make an emergency grocery store run earlier this morning.
20F outside, turned on ignition of wife's Toyota in garage...38F on the
car's exterior thermometer...thank goodness!
Obviously, garage sucks up some heat through insulated house walls, for
which I am thankful because once started, the vehicles warm right up.

Helps too if the sun beams into any garage windows. Amazing what heat there still is in the sun..even this time of year.

Yup, you really appreciate the sun when it is in the 60s. I still am
in my shorts with no shirt walking the dog.

Tried walking our Springer while the wife was at the grocery store picking up tomorrow's supper. Minus 9 with a biting cold wind. No fun at all. I was going to take him down to the major off leash park for a real run but I had enough. He'll have to wait and see if tomorrow is better.

On 12/31/17 2:18 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 31 December 2017 14:28:54 UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 07:22:56 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Sunday, 31 December 2017 11:13:32 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Last scientific experiment of 2017:

Had to make an emergency grocery store run earlier this morning.
20F outside, turned on ignition of wife's Toyota in garage...38F on the
car's exterior thermometer...thank goodness!
Obviously, garage sucks up some heat through insulated house walls, for
which I am thankful because once started, the vehicles warm right up.

Helps too if the sun beams into any garage windows. Amazing what heat there still is in the sun..even this time of year.

Yup, you really appreciate the sun when it is in the 60s. I still am
in my shorts with no shirt walking the dog.

Tried walking our Springer while the wife was at the grocery store picking up tomorrow's supper. Minus 9 with a biting cold wind. No fun at all. I was going to take him down to the major off leash park for a real run but I had enough. He'll have to wait and see if tomorrow is better.


That kinda temp is unfit for man or beast. Sheesh.