John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I picked up a Kimber Micro 9 Stainless Raptor for no reason other than
it's a very nice gun. I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
You turkey. You beat me to it.
You were looking at the Micro 9?

Euro Optic had it in stock and at the best price:

https://www.eurooptic.com/KIMBER-330...-9mm-MPN-.aspx

I bought the Blaser shotgun from them, too.

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
This is my "boat gun"

https://tinyurl.com/yaxqx96k
You probably don't have alligators that visit when you boat.

wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:15:42 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
This is my "boat gun"

https://tinyurl.com/yaxqx96k

===

Reminds me of a funny incident on our first trip to the Caribbean. We
were ghosting along the north coast of the Dominican Republic just
after sunrise. Suddenly we became aware of a 20 something open skiff
rapidly converging our course with three guys onboard. Being just
outside the 12 mile limit, we had no idea why this boat could have any
valid interest in us. With some trepidation I went on deck with a
loaded flare pistol concealed in each pocket in case they tried to
board us. As they got closer they started waving us to the side and
yelling to watch out in broken English. It turned out they had
fishing nets laid out up ahead and were warning us away. I felt a
little foolish about the whole thing but better safe than sorry.

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That's smart. Piracy still happens everywhere.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/22/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/22/2017 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:15:42 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.

This is my "boat gun"

https://tinyurl.com/yaxqx96k


===

Reminds me of a funny incident on our first trip to the Caribbean. We
were ghosting along the north coast of the Dominican Republic just
after sunrise. Suddenly we became aware of a 20 something open skiff
rapidly converging our course with three guys onboard. Being just
outside the 12 mile limit, we had no idea why this boat could have any
valid interest in us. With some trepidation I went on deck with a
loaded flare pistol concealed in each pocket in case they tried to
board us. As they got closer they started waving us to the side and
yelling to watch out in broken English. It turned out they had
fishing nets laid out up ahead and were warning us away. I felt a
little foolish about the whole thing but better safe than sorry.



I think I've posted about this before, but:

My youngest son and I were in the Whaler CC I had at the time and were
returning down the channel in Scituate Harbor. My son was doing
the piloting with me watching him. I looked behind us and saw a
USCG patrol boat approaching with it's lights flashing. They had
decided to do a random boarding of us to check for safety gear,
flares, etc.

When they boarded they addressed my son as "Captain" and asked to see
the various safety gear items. One was a brand new flare gun kit that
had never been opened. The Coastie looked at my son and asked him if he
knew how to use it. My son was nervous and said, "Not really, no".

The Coastie turned to me, handed me the kit and said, "Show him, Dad".




The only watercop encounter I ever had was in the Bay when I was out
fishing with a buddy. We were approached to make sure the fish we had
taken aboard were legal. The natural resources cop was a beautiful
blonde girl and my unmarried buddy started hitting on her for her
phone number. He got it. Sadly, seriously, she intercepted some
druggies about a year later and was shot to death.

The keeper of this list should add that "encounter":

"I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another
writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the
Wash Post.
I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire
a
production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state
of
the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
candidates.

We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a
401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute
a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our
employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics,
but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two
weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third
year. In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20
days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company
administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except,
of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

…Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year.
Our
business always goes up in a major election year.
You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because
Bush is
such a total failure.

The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless
those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no
one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're
there
in case they're needed.

Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an
employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of
purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic
benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is
increased to
$10,000 per month.


I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing
the new boat
industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season.
Everything was
sold...every
cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For
near
full-retail, too.


He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a
syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had
been a
solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they
gave him
great rates.

As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in
my memory and I*remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his
wife),
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and
participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far
more
important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met
*every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once
for his father.


We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear,
a
broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued
Florida
lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two
breadwinners
hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary
assignments
they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after
being
romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what
we paid
for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full
years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't
lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested.


This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to

right after
the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his
warehouse, I found
wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new
1949
Evinrude 8015
50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from
Evinrude for
winning some
outboard stock utility or hydroplane race.

I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the
shop
as head
mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is
still
brand-new. I
have no idea who might own it now.



He also built
boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood
and
all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and
I've
just been an occasional boat owner.


Besides, I worked off and on in the
boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said,
I'm
knee-deep in boat heritage.

During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings

for the
Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to
use
them on
smaller
landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole
Evinrude
himself.
My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor
movie
star or
singer...I forgot which. Maybe both.


Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat
under your command? I have.
My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in
winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible,
even the
fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC.

Here are some [boats I’ve owned]:


Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17
footers
with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with
spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy
Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60
mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a
bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe

[Speaking of his wife]:
Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed
state
hospital for forensic patients?
Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county
facility for
substance abusers?
Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-
bed
facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which
approximately
half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol?
Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-
practitioner
practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are
seeking help
for substance abuse problems?


Licensed psychotherapist
Screening as to character and background for each degree earned
On-going screening by faculty while in educational system
Interviews and screenings for required years of internships,
plus,
at the same
time, supervision by a licensed professional.
Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed
therapist for two years
of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure
Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by
licensed
practitioners
Four hour written examination on state laws
Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and
practice

My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final
internship was as a
psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric
hospital where, on a
daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average
soldier.

My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-
bed
state
mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated
numerous
sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such
"treatment"
is part of being in the mental health professions.

She is a licensed, practicing

psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she
sees
each day.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 21:21:30 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
This is my "boat gun"

https://tinyurl.com/yaxqx96k
You probably don't have alligators that visit when you boat.

I see alligators now and then. There is a 3 footer living in my canal
right now and a 9 footer across the river (probably the mom) but I am
not afraid they will jump in the boat and get me. Shooting them is
pretty illegal anyway.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 21:20:14 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I picked up a Kimber Micro 9 Stainless Raptor for no reason other than
it's a very nice gun. I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
You turkey. You beat me to it.
You were looking at the Micro 9?

Euro Optic had it in stock and at the best price:

https://www.eurooptic.com/KIMBER-330...-9mm-MPN-.aspx

I bought the Blaser shotgun from them, too.

I was more interested in the Stainless (DN) with the TruGlow front sight, thinking I'd be able to
see it better.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 21:30:36 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/22/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/22/2017 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:15:42 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.

This is my "boat gun"

https://tinyurl.com/yaxqx96k


===

Reminds me of a funny incident on our first trip to the Caribbean. We
were ghosting along the north coast of the Dominican Republic just
after sunrise. Suddenly we became aware of a 20 something open skiff
rapidly converging our course with three guys onboard. Being just
outside the 12 mile limit, we had no idea why this boat could have any
valid interest in us. With some trepidation I went on deck with a
loaded flare pistol concealed in each pocket in case they tried to
board us. As they got closer they started waving us to the side and
yelling to watch out in broken English. It turned out they had
fishing nets laid out up ahead and were warning us away. I felt a
little foolish about the whole thing but better safe than sorry.



I think I've posted about this before, but:

My youngest son and I were in the Whaler CC I had at the time and were
returning down the channel in Scituate Harbor. My son was doing
the piloting with me watching him. I looked behind us and saw a
USCG patrol boat approaching with it's lights flashing. They had
decided to do a random boarding of us to check for safety gear,
flares, etc.

When they boarded they addressed my son as "Captain" and asked to see
the various safety gear items. One was a brand new flare gun kit that
had never been opened. The Coastie looked at my son and asked him if he
knew how to use it. My son was nervous and said, "Not really, no".

The Coastie turned to me, handed me the kit and said, "Show him, Dad".




The only watercop encounter I ever had was in the Bay when I was out
fishing with a buddy. We were approached to make sure the fish we had
taken aboard were legal. The natural resources cop was a beautiful
blonde girl and my unmarried buddy started hitting on her for her
phone number. He got it. Sadly, seriously, she intercepted some
druggies about a year later and was shot to death.

The keeper of this list should add that "encounter":

"I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another
writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the
Wash Post.
I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire
a
production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state
of
the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
candidates.

We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a
401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute
a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our
employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics,
but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two
weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third
year. In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20
days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company
administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except,
of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

…Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year.
Our
business always goes up in a major election year.
You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because
Bush is
such a total failure.

The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless
those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no
one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're
there
in case they're needed.

Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an
employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of
purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic
benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is
increased to
$10,000 per month.


I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing
the new boat
industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season.
Everything was
sold...every
cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For
near
full-retail, too.


He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a
syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had
been a
solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they
gave him
great rates.

As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in
my memory and I*remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his
wife),
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and
participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far
more
important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met
*every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once
for his father.


We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear,
a
broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued
Florida
lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two
breadwinners
hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary
assignments
they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after
being
romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what
we paid
for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full
years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't
lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested.


This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to

right after
the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his
warehouse, I found
wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new
1949
Evinrude 8015
50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from
Evinrude for
winning some
outboard stock utility or hydroplane race.

I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the
shop
as head
mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is
still
brand-new. I
have no idea who might own it now.



He also built
boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood
and
all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and
I've
just been an occasional boat owner.


Besides, I worked off and on in the
boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said,
I'm
knee-deep in boat heritage.

During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings

for the
Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to
use
them on
smaller
landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole
Evinrude
himself.
My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor
movie
star or
singer...I forgot which. Maybe both.


Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat
under your command? I have.
My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in
winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible,
even the
fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC.

Here are some [boats I’ve owned]:


Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17
footers
with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with
spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy
Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60
mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a
bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe

[Speaking of his wife]:
Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed
state
hospital for forensic patients?
Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county
facility for
substance abusers?
Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-
bed
facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which
approximately
half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol?
Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-
practitioner
practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are
seeking help
for substance abuse problems?


Licensed psychotherapist
Screening as to character and background for each degree earned
On-going screening by faculty while in educational system
Interviews and screenings for required years of internships,
plus,
at the same
time, supervision by a licensed professional.
Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed
therapist for two years
of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure
Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by
licensed
practitioners
Four hour written examination on state laws
Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and
practice

My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final
internship was as a
psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric
hospital where, on a
daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average
soldier.

My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-
bed
state
mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated
numerous
sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such
"treatment"
is part of being in the mental health professions.

She is a licensed, practicing

psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she
sees
each day.


Wow. Whatta man!

On Friday, 22 December 2017 21:20:20 UTC-5, Alex wrote:
John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I picked up a Kimber Micro 9 Stainless Raptor for no reason other than
it's a very nice gun. I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
You turkey. You beat me to it.
You were looking at the Micro 9?

Euro Optic had it in stock and at the best price:

https://www.eurooptic.com/KIMBER-330...-9mm-MPN-.aspx

I bought the Blaser shotgun from them, too.

Check this out: https://www.gunbuyer.com/catalog/pro...-kim3300109-e/

Where'd you get your 'best price' info?

wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 21:21:30 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
This is my "boat gun"

https://tinyurl.com/yaxqx96k
You probably don't have alligators that visit when you boat.

I see alligators now and then. There is a 3 footer living in my canal
right now and a 9 footer across the river (probably the mom) but I am
not afraid they will jump in the boat and get me. Shooting them is
pretty illegal anyway.


We're not always running in canals. If we get stuck - and it happens -
an alligator can walk onto the boat while we turn it around. We're
spinning a 6' propeller that doesn't have reverse.

John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 21:20:14 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:32:32 -0500, Alex wrote:

I picked up a Kimber Micro 9 Stainless Raptor for no reason other than
it's a very nice gun. I'll shoot it but my Kahr will always be my boat gun.
You turkey. You beat me to it.
You were looking at the Micro 9?

Euro Optic had it in stock and at the best price:

https://www.eurooptic.com/KIMBER-330...-9mm-MPN-.aspx

I bought the Blaser shotgun from them, too.
I was more interested in the Stainless (DN) with the TruGlow front sight, thinking I'd be able to
see it better.

The tritium night sights are similar to white Novak sights in the
daylight but glow in the dark very well. It will be interesting to see
how long that lasts. They do get dimmer over time.