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On 12/17/17 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 12:56:47 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/17/17 12:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 09:27:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Let's try this again: My comment was that the Jews do not go looking for converts, nor do most orthodox, conservative, or reform jews evangelize. Are you claiming the Israelis are converting Muslims to Judaism? That was not the issue. You said you did not like the idea of state religions. I also bet the Muslims in Israel will tell you they are second class citizens. Separate but equal is now OK with you? There is no state religion in Israel: Secularism on the Edge: Rethinking Church-State Relations in the United States, France, and Israel. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 167–169. ISBN 978-1-137-38115-6. "The compromise, therefore, was to choose constructive ambiguity: as surprising as it may seem, there is no law that declares Judaism the official religion of Israel. However, there is no other law that declares Israel's neutrality toward all confessions. Judaism is not recognized as the official religion of the state, and even though the Jewish, Muslim and Christian clergy receive their salaries from the state, this fact does not make Israel a neutral state. This apparent pluralism cannot dissimulate the fact that Israel displays a clear and undoubtedly hierarchical pluralism in religious matters. ... It is important to note that from a multicultural point of view, this self-restrained secularism allows Muslim law to be practiced in Israel for personal matters of the Muslim community. As surprising as it seems, if not paradoxical for a state in war, Israel is the only Western democratic country in which Sharia enjoys such an official status." Maybe someone should tell the leaders of Israel. They say it is a Jewish state and their flag demonstrates that. Only 21% of Israeli Arabs get to vote. I agree they will not remain a Jewish state if they actually let all of the Arabs there vote because they will lose all of the elections. It is the price you pay when you conquer your neighbors and assimilate their population. If the Arabs living in Israel are Israeli citizens, they get to vote. |
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 15:23:15 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 12/17/17 2:24 PM, wrote: Maybe someone should tell the leaders of Israel. They say it is a Jewish state and their flag demonstrates that. Only 21% of Israeli Arabs get to vote. I agree they will not remain a Jewish state if they actually let all of the Arabs there vote because they will lose all of the elections. It is the price you pay when you conquer your neighbors and assimilate their population. If the Arabs living in Israel are Israeli citizens, they get to vote. 21% of them anyway |
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