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FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. |
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FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:33:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. I notice that on a lot of things. Those 80 pound bags of concrete seem to be getting a lot heavier but I do try to keep my climbing skills intact. I was up in the oak tree next to house with a chain saw after Irma cutting out broken branches. I did lower the saw on a rope tho because I agree, down is harder than up. I do have a decent climbing harness tho and I tied off. I ain't plumb dumb. |
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FAA does it again
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. |
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FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.* Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people here* .... including me.* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= |
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FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 3:10 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= Here's a pic of the 1200' VLF transmitter antenna (center) and the five surrounding, 800' support antennas before most were removed in 1999. I climbed one of the 800' ones. The configuration of the antennas formed a inductive and capacitive load for the million watt VLF transmitter. It's all gone now except I understand that three of the smaller towers remain for historical purposes. It's located on Greenbury Point, in Anne Arundel County. http://www.virhistory.com/navy/commsta/anna/annapolis-ant-1994.jpg NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. |
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FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:39:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. I thought they still had some VLF stuff. I remember they were protesting in Alaska because there was some kind of array up there (HAARP?). This array was supposed to be capable of talking to a sub under the polar ice. They said it was screwing up the Caribou and Polar Bears, maybe even altering human DNA or some other horrible thing. There were signs hanging around everywhere once you got out of Anchorage. |
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FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:39:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/13/2017 3:10 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.* Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people here* .... including me.* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= Here's a pic of the 1200' VLF transmitter antenna (center) and the five surrounding, 800' support antennas before most were removed in 1999. I climbed one of the 800' ones. The configuration of the antennas formed a inductive and capacitive load for the million watt VLF transmitter. It's all gone now except I understand that three of the smaller towers remain for historical purposes. It's located on Greenbury Point, in Anne Arundel County. http://www.virhistory.com/navy/commsta/anna/annapolis-ant-1994.jpg NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. === We see those towers when we go through the Chesapeake. Here's an article about a guy who tried to climb one of them. http://www.capitalgazette.com/cg2-arc-a5ffb380-c952-5fc0-b111-309a029f4d2f-20130227-story.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:10:50 -0500, John H
wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= Looks like a cool place to take a picture from. |