This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.

Wrote in message:
This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.


Cheap-good-fast
Chose two of the three for private contract work.
Chose none for union or government work.
Follow those guidelines and you won't be disappointed.
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On 10/23/17 3:34 AM, wrote:
This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.




Awww. Poor baby. Why don't you individually contract with a private firm
to remove your tree trash, Mr. Anti-Government Libertarian? Why depend
on the government?

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:44:58 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/23/17 3:34 AM, wrote:
This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.




Awww. Poor baby. Why don't you individually contract with a private firm
to remove your tree trash, Mr. Anti-Government Libertarian? Why depend
on the government?

Will they give me back my tax money if I do?
I already paid for this.
I am contracting for a loader to pile it closer to the curb because
DOT says they will not get the stuff they can't reach from the
pavement (the private contractor did)
I expect that pile to be 12' high.

Left to my own devices, I would just burn this ****.

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 03:34:52 -0400, wrote:

This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.

Thank your local AFGE!

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:43:31 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 03:34:52 -0400, wrote:

This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.

Thank your local AFGE!

They are on the other side of the neighborhood now and I drove around
looking to see haw far they have gone. I am not sure what they are
picking up. I really do not see than much missing for 2 days work. The
piles look about the same as they did last week and my neighbors are
****ed. I was stopped 3 times asking if there was anything I could do
to get them moving.
After Charlie, they had the whole neighborhood cleaned up in a day and
a half.
You can certainly tell these guys are being paid by the hour and not
by the job (like a contractor would be).
I suppose if I was willing to sit and watch a while I might actually
see them pick up some sticks but they were just standing in the road
talking again today.

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 2:35:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.

The "looking and scratching" part is dead on.

A friend of mine has an upscale tree trimming/clearing business and hires about 20 men. He has lots of equipment. He knows what he's doing.

He was a warded a contract in N.O. after Katrina. He said the govt. pay was fine IF they would have been allowed to do what they had to do, but there was so much local govt fiddling around and downtime due to red tape/ paperwork that he found himself losing money fast and pulled out of the game and won't do fed or state govt work anymore...

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:12:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 2:35:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
This is in reference to horticultural debris removal from the
hurricane.
After Charlie, they hired private contractors who brought in 18
wheelers that could haul 100 yards of debris at a time. They had a
claw truck and a bobcat on the street making big piles from little
piles and getting it the hell out of here fast. The morons in local
government here have decided to let Lee DOT do it this time. Being the
government, they spend more time looking and scratching their ass than
picking up debris. This morning they sat in front of my house, all of
he equipment idling for over an hour while they walked around and
looked at my logs and the other stuff piles around this corner. They
never picked anything up. then they decided they would go around the
block the other way. Four hours later they were still about 10 houses
down.
I do understand this would still take a lot longer because of the
equipment they brought. They are just using a Gradall with a clamshell
bucket and 10 yard dump trucks. Let's see. 2.5 million yards, 10 yards
at a time ... a quarter of a million truck loads. No wonder they are
saying it might take until Christmas.
This looks like a WPA project except we are talking about 21st century
government workers working 7 days a week. The guys out here on Sunday
were probably averaging $70-80 an hour working double time,
A contractor with the right equipment would be faster and cheaper.

The "looking and scratching" part is dead on.

A friend of mine has an upscale tree trimming/clearing business and hires about 20 men. He has lots of equipment. He knows what he's doing.

He was a warded a contract in N.O. after Katrina. He said the govt. pay was fine IF they would have been allowed to do what they had to do, but there was so much local govt fiddling around and downtime due to red tape/ paperwork that he found himself losing money fast and pulled out of the game and won't do fed or state govt work anymore...

When the contractors after Charlie came around here I never saw any
government involvement at all and they worked fast. In a day and a
half they were gone and so was all of the debris. It was a well oiled
machine. A bobcat came down the street and pushed all of the small
piles into big ones, the claw truck moved along behind him and the 18
wheelers were lined up the street. As fast as the claw could load them
they pulled out and another 18 wheeler pulled up.
I expected the same thing this time but it is just the Keystone Cops
from County DOT. I can see why they think it may take until Christmas.
I wouldn't be shocked if a couple commissioners get shown the door in
the next election.