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Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
On 10/16/2017 7:54 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:15:06 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/15/17 10:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 13:57:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/15/2017 11:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/14/17 9:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:04:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/14/2017 3:51 PM, wrote: I don't personally know this boat but it sure looks nice.Â* It's possible that they will take a well maintained imaginary boat in trade but only if it has Corintian Leather cushions. https://youtu.be/WsvN2KH8TyA http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Seahorse-Pilothouse-LRC-3132056/Glen-Burnie/MD/United-States#.WeJp-Dtrx6m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Very nice.Â* Has a real "wheel house".Â* Engine spaces seems a little busy based on the pictures but they can be deceiving.Â* Asking price doesn't seem bad, especially considering all the upgrades and work done on the engines.Â* Only 1700 hours.Â* Hmmmmm.... Unless all those pictures were taken when brand new, he has kept it in pristine shape. Wow. I am guessing it was a tax write off for some corporate owner and they had a full time guy doing nothing but shining it up and keeping things working. That was what my buddy did for years. The owner took clients out for a ride and a sales pitch. I'd bet that barge draws 5' or close to it of water. More like 3-4 feet. What does your twin Volvo powered trawler draw? === According to the Yacht World listing it draws exactly 5 ft and has a full keel to protect the props - fairly typical for serious trawlers. It comes in handy when cruising the boondocks and the nearest prop shop might be 500 miles away. As one example of the issues 5' of draw raises, there are places on the ICW where the maintained channel is very, very narrow and if you wander out of it just a bit, you are going to run aground, even on a shallow draft boat. There were a few times when I was running one way on the ICW in NE Florida in an outboard boat and I encountered a pushed barge coming the other way, and in places where the maintained channel was barely wide enough for the barge and certainly not enough for two boats traveling in opposite directions meeting each other, so I would pull out of the channel and in a few cases started churning up mud. A yacht with a 5' draft would have run aground, perhaps hard aground. No thanks. When the boat is seaworthy enough, and the captain is qualified, the ICW isn't necessary. Just ask Wayne. Your little Parker and your imaginary trawler, on the other hand, should stick to the ICW. There are many areas of the ICW that is best avoided on a larger boat. On the trip I made I wanted to see much of the ICW, just for the experience and for sight seeing but ended up doing about 40 percent of the miles on it and 60 percent running "outside", meaning off shore. You make much better time offshore because the ICW has very limited sections where you can run at cruise speed and even then you are constantly slowing down to pass slow moving sailboats. |
Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:54:03 -0400, John H
wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:15:06 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/15/17 10:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 13:57:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/15/2017 11:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/14/17 9:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:04:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/14/2017 3:51 PM, wrote: I don't personally know this boat but it sure looks nice.* It's possible that they will take a well maintained imaginary boat in trade but only if it has Corintian Leather cushions. https://youtu.be/WsvN2KH8TyA http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Seahorse-Pilothouse-LRC-3132056/Glen-Burnie/MD/United-States#.WeJp-Dtrx6m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Very nice.* Has a real "wheel house".* Engine spaces seems a little busy based on the pictures but they can be deceiving.* Asking price doesn't seem bad, especially considering all the upgrades and work done on the engines.* Only 1700 hours.* Hmmmmm.... Unless all those pictures were taken when brand new, he has kept it in pristine shape. Wow. I am guessing it was a tax write off for some corporate owner and they had a full time guy doing nothing but shining it up and keeping things working. That was what my buddy did for years. The owner took clients out for a ride and a sales pitch. I'd bet that barge draws 5' or close to it of water. More like 3-4 feet. What does your twin Volvo powered trawler draw? === According to the Yacht World listing it draws exactly 5 ft and has a full keel to protect the props - fairly typical for serious trawlers. It comes in handy when cruising the boondocks and the nearest prop shop might be 500 miles away. As one example of the issues 5' of draw raises, there are places on the ICW where the maintained channel is very, very narrow and if you wander out of it just a bit, you are going to run aground, even on a shallow draft boat. There were a few times when I was running one way on the ICW in NE Florida in an outboard boat and I encountered a pushed barge coming the other way, and in places where the maintained channel was barely wide enough for the barge and certainly not enough for two boats traveling in opposite directions meeting each other, so I would pull out of the channel and in a few cases started churning up mud. A yacht with a 5' draft would have run aground, perhaps hard aground. No thanks. When the boat is seaworthy enough, and the captain is qualified, the ICW isn't necessary. Just ask Wayne. Your little Parker and your imaginary trawler, on the other hand, should stick to the ICW. === Having run the Florida ICW many times in both directions with 5 1/2 feet of draft, I can state with a great deal of certainty that Harree, as usual, is full of ****. The only exception is in the Florida Keys where there are good alternatives. Not to say that the ICW doesn't have issues, but they are mostly in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and New Jersey. In those area we prefer to run outside when possible but have run every inch inside at one time or another with the exception of New Jersey where we always run outside. We have never been pushed out of the channel by tugs and barges but there are a few places that require the utmost in concentration and nerves of steel. Perhaps Harree's nerves are made of something else. |
Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
On 10/16/17 8:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/16/2017 7:15 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/15/17 10:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 13:57:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/15/2017 11:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/14/17 9:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:04:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/14/2017 3:51 PM, wrote: I don't personally know this boat but it sure looks nice.Â* It's possible that they will take a well maintained imaginary boat in trade but only if it has Corintian Leather cushions. https://youtu.be/WsvN2KH8TyA http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Seahorse-Pilothouse-LRC-3132056/Glen-Burnie/MD/United-States#.WeJp-Dtrx6m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Very nice.Â* Has a real "wheel house".Â* Engine spaces seems a little busy based on the pictures but they can be deceiving.Â* Asking price doesn't seem bad, especially considering all the upgrades and work done on the engines.Â* Only 1700 hours.Â* Hmmmmm.... Unless all those pictures were taken when brand new, he has kept it in pristine shape. Wow. I am guessing it was a tax write off for some corporate owner and they had a full time guy doing nothing but shining it up and keeping things working. That was what my buddy did for years. The owner took clients out for a ride and a sales pitch. I'd bet that barge draws 5' or close to it of water. More like 3-4 feet.Â* What does your twin Volvo powered trawler draw? === According to the Yacht World listing it draws exactly 5 ft and has a full keel to protect the props - fairly typical for serious trawlers. It comes in handy when cruising the boondocks and the nearest prop shop might be 500 miles away. As one example of the issues 5' of draw raises, there are places on the ICW where the maintained channel is very, very narrow and if you wander out of it just a bit, you are going to run aground, even on a shallow draft boat. There were a few times when I was running one way on the ICW in NE Florida in an outboard boat and I encountered a pushed barge coming the other way, and in places where the maintained channel was barely wide enough for the barge and certainly not enough for two boats traveling in opposite directions meeting each other, so I would pull out of the channel and in a few cases started churning up mud. A yacht with a 5' draft would have run aground, perhaps hard aground. No thanks. It's part of the experience.Â* The Navigator drew about 3 and a half to 4 feet, depending on fuel load.Â* I went aground three times in different places on the ICW in the southern states.Â* I had the depth finder alarm set at 6 feet and it was constantly going off.Â* Fortunately all were "soft" groundings and I was going very slowly, watching the depth gauge, constantly looking for deeper water.Â* I was able to back off them, although one required the assistance of the thrusters. I also learned that precisely following the channel markers was no guaranty of safe passage.Â* There are some areas on the ICW that have short inlets from the ocean and a recent storm offshore caused sandbars to build up smack in the middle of the ICW channel.Â* Dredging barges clear them but are of no help when you call them on the radio asking for a recommendation of what side to pass them on.Â* They won't advise you and I later learned it's because they cannot assume any responsibility for directing your passage. I found that monitoring the radio helped a lot because those ahead of me would report shallow spots and you could anticipate them. I had a friend who was making the trip at the same time I was and at one point we were within radio range of each other. (He was ahead of me and makes the snowbird trip every year).Â* He knew it was my first time making the voyage and he helped a lot giving me warnings of shallow water.Â* I remember one of them was reported by several people so I slowed down to a crawl and waited until I spotted a large sailboat, figuring that with his keel, he drewÂ* more than I did and I just followed his course through the shallow area. Anyone on a larger boat who claims they never ran aground in the ICW probably has never traveled the ICW. I loved fishing along the edges of the ICW and up the ICW creeks and on the sides of the ocean inlets. Spectacular fishing for flounder, reds, seatrout, and near St. Augustine, sometimes tarpon. Catfish were fun to catch. All on really light tackle. :) |
Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
On 10/16/17 8:22 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:54:03 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:15:06 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/15/17 10:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 13:57:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/15/2017 11:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/14/17 9:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:04:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/14/2017 3:51 PM, wrote: I don't personally know this boat but it sure looks nice.Â* It's possible that they will take a well maintained imaginary boat in trade but only if it has Corintian Leather cushions. https://youtu.be/WsvN2KH8TyA http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Seahorse-Pilothouse-LRC-3132056/Glen-Burnie/MD/United-States#.WeJp-Dtrx6m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Very nice.Â* Has a real "wheel house".Â* Engine spaces seems a little busy based on the pictures but they can be deceiving.Â* Asking price doesn't seem bad, especially considering all the upgrades and work done on the engines.Â* Only 1700 hours.Â* Hmmmmm.... Unless all those pictures were taken when brand new, he has kept it in pristine shape. Wow. I am guessing it was a tax write off for some corporate owner and they had a full time guy doing nothing but shining it up and keeping things working. That was what my buddy did for years. The owner took clients out for a ride and a sales pitch. I'd bet that barge draws 5' or close to it of water. More like 3-4 feet. What does your twin Volvo powered trawler draw? === According to the Yacht World listing it draws exactly 5 ft and has a full keel to protect the props - fairly typical for serious trawlers. It comes in handy when cruising the boondocks and the nearest prop shop might be 500 miles away. As one example of the issues 5' of draw raises, there are places on the ICW where the maintained channel is very, very narrow and if you wander out of it just a bit, you are going to run aground, even on a shallow draft boat. There were a few times when I was running one way on the ICW in NE Florida in an outboard boat and I encountered a pushed barge coming the other way, and in places where the maintained channel was barely wide enough for the barge and certainly not enough for two boats traveling in opposite directions meeting each other, so I would pull out of the channel and in a few cases started churning up mud. A yacht with a 5' draft would have run aground, perhaps hard aground. No thanks. When the boat is seaworthy enough, and the captain is qualified, the ICW isn't necessary. Just ask Wayne. Your little Parker and your imaginary trawler, on the other hand, should stick to the ICW. === Having run the Florida ICW many times in both directions with 5 1/2 feet of draft, I can state with a great deal of certainty that Harree, as usual, is full of ****. The only exception is in the Florida Keys where there are good alternatives. Not to say that the ICW doesn't have issues, but they are mostly in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and New Jersey. In those area we prefer to run outside when possible but have run every inch inside at one time or another with the exception of New Jersey where we always run outside. We have never been pushed out of the channel by tugs and barges but there are a few places that require the utmost in concentration and nerves of steel. Perhaps Harree's nerves are made of something else. Whine is just...wonderful. The man for all seasons but no reasons. |
Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 08:44:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/16/17 8:22 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:54:03 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:15:06 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/15/17 10:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 13:57:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/15/2017 11:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/14/17 9:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:04:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/14/2017 3:51 PM, wrote: I don't personally know this boat but it sure looks nice.* It's possible that they will take a well maintained imaginary boat in trade but only if it has Corintian Leather cushions. https://youtu.be/WsvN2KH8TyA http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Seahorse-Pilothouse-LRC-3132056/Glen-Burnie/MD/United-States#.WeJp-Dtrx6m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Very nice.* Has a real "wheel house".* Engine spaces seems a little busy based on the pictures but they can be deceiving.* Asking price doesn't seem bad, especially considering all the upgrades and work done on the engines.* Only 1700 hours.* Hmmmmm.... Unless all those pictures were taken when brand new, he has kept it in pristine shape. Wow. I am guessing it was a tax write off for some corporate owner and they had a full time guy doing nothing but shining it up and keeping things working. That was what my buddy did for years. The owner took clients out for a ride and a sales pitch. I'd bet that barge draws 5' or close to it of water. More like 3-4 feet. What does your twin Volvo powered trawler draw? === According to the Yacht World listing it draws exactly 5 ft and has a full keel to protect the props - fairly typical for serious trawlers. It comes in handy when cruising the boondocks and the nearest prop shop might be 500 miles away. As one example of the issues 5' of draw raises, there are places on the ICW where the maintained channel is very, very narrow and if you wander out of it just a bit, you are going to run aground, even on a shallow draft boat. There were a few times when I was running one way on the ICW in NE Florida in an outboard boat and I encountered a pushed barge coming the other way, and in places where the maintained channel was barely wide enough for the barge and certainly not enough for two boats traveling in opposite directions meeting each other, so I would pull out of the channel and in a few cases started churning up mud. A yacht with a 5' draft would have run aground, perhaps hard aground. No thanks. When the boat is seaworthy enough, and the captain is qualified, the ICW isn't necessary. Just ask Wayne. Your little Parker and your imaginary trawler, on the other hand, should stick to the ICW. === Having run the Florida ICW many times in both directions with 5 1/2 feet of draft, I can state with a great deal of certainty that Harree, as usual, is full of ****. The only exception is in the Florida Keys where there are good alternatives. Not to say that the ICW doesn't have issues, but they are mostly in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and New Jersey. In those area we prefer to run outside when possible but have run every inch inside at one time or another with the exception of New Jersey where we always run outside. We have never been pushed out of the channel by tugs and barges but there are a few places that require the utmost in concentration and nerves of steel. Perhaps Harree's nerves are made of something else. Whine is just...wonderful. The man for all seasons but no reasons. Never saw him brag about his ammo stockpile, cardboard boxes, level kitchen cabinets or non-existent Vietnam jobs, boats, and motorcycles. Have you? |
Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 08:44:15 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: Whine is just...wonderful. The man for all seasons but no reasons. === How cute. I'm honored that you wasted some of your self proclaimed writing talent replying to my post. Keep at it - you may be good when you grow up. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 08:44:15 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 10/16/17 8:22 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:54:03 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:15:06 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/15/17 10:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 13:57:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/15/2017 11:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/14/17 9:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:04:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/14/2017 3:51 PM, wrote: I don't personally know this boat but it sure looks nice.Â* It's possible that they will take a well maintained imaginary boat in trade but only if it has Corintian Leather cushions. https://youtu.be/WsvN2KH8TyA http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Seahorse-Pilothouse-LRC-3132056/Glen-Burnie/MD/United-States#.WeJp-Dtrx6m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Very nice.Â* Has a real "wheel house".Â* Engine spaces seems a little busy based on the pictures but they can be deceiving.Â* Asking price doesn't seem bad, especially considering all the upgrades and work done on the engines.Â* Only 1700 hours.Â* Hmmmmm.... Unless all those pictures were taken when brand new, he has kept it in pristine shape. Wow. I am guessing it was a tax write off for some corporate owner and they had a full time guy doing nothing but shining it up and keeping things working. That was what my buddy did for years. The owner took clients out for a ride and a sales pitch. I'd bet that barge draws 5' or close to it of water. More like 3-4 feet. What does your twin Volvo powered trawler draw? === According to the Yacht World listing it draws exactly 5 ft and has a full keel to protect the props - fairly typical for serious trawlers. It comes in handy when cruising the boondocks and the nearest prop shop might be 500 miles away. As one example of the issues 5' of draw raises, there are places on the ICW where the maintained channel is very, very narrow and if you wander out of it just a bit, you are going to run aground, even on a shallow draft boat. There were a few times when I was running one way on the ICW in NE Florida in an outboard boat and I encountered a pushed barge coming the other way, and in places where the maintained channel was barely wide enough for the barge and certainly not enough for two boats traveling in opposite directions meeting each other, so I would pull out of the channel and in a few cases started churning up mud. A yacht with a 5' draft would have run aground, perhaps hard aground. No thanks. When the boat is seaworthy enough, and the captain is qualified, the ICW isn't necessary. Just ask Wayne. Your little Parker and your imaginary trawler, on the other hand, should stick to the ICW. === Having run the Florida ICW many times in both directions with 5 1/2 feet of draft, I can state with a great deal of certainty that Harree, as usual, is full of ****. The only exception is in the Florida Keys where there are good alternatives. Not to say that the ICW doesn't have issues, but they are mostly in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and New Jersey. In those area we prefer to run outside when possible but have run every inch inside at one time or another with the exception of New Jersey where we always run outside. We have never been pushed out of the channel by tugs and barges but there are a few places that require the utmost in concentration and nerves of steel. Perhaps Harree's nerves are made of something else. Whine is just...wonderful. The man for all seasons but no reasons. Wayne has actual documented experience running up and down the east coast. We are not even sure you have had a boat since the Yo Ho went away. I will say Irma has moved a lot of sand around and I certainly would not trust ICW markers. Around me, the ICW is in an aquatic preserve and it is not dredged as often as big boat operators would like. You really can't even count on 3' at low tide. My river has really become a "local knowledge" thing and it has to be "recent, local knowledge" ;-) Things that worked a month and a half ago are no longer true. |
Nice Long Range Trawler For Sale on the Chesapeake
John H wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:41:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/15/2017 5:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/15/17 1:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/15/2017 11:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/14/17 9:27 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:04:02 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:55:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/14/2017 3:51 PM, wrote: I don't personally know this boat but it sure looks nice. It's possible that they will take a well maintained imaginary boat in trade but only if it has Corintian Leather cushions. https://youtu.be/WsvN2KH8TyA http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Seahorse-Pilothouse-LRC-3132056/Glen-Burnie/MD/United-States#.WeJp-Dtrx6m --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Very nice. Has a real "wheel house". Engine spaces seems a little busy based on the pictures but they can be deceiving. Asking price doesn't seem bad, especially considering all the upgrades and work done on the engines. Only 1700 hours. Hmmmmm.... Unless all those pictures were taken when brand new, he has kept it in pristine shape. Wow. I am guessing it was a tax write off for some corporate owner and they had a full time guy doing nothing but shining it up and keeping things working. That was what my buddy did for years. The owner took clients out for a ride and a sales pitch. I'd bet that barge draws 5' or close to it of water. More like 3-4 feet. What does your twin Volvo powered trawler draw? Less than 4' I'd love to see a pic of it. Two inches is less than 4'! So is zero. |
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