Keyser Soze wrote:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/5/17 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:27:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

A great article from the Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...004-story.html

"The dead weren’t even finished dying in Las Vegas before the left
swooped down to feed on gun
control politics."
I see that they are going after the "hearing protection act" too, in
spite of the fact that the people in Vegas did not recognize the gun
shots until they started seeing people getting shot.
It is the only time in history that I can remember people wanting to
keep ear damaging equipment as loud as they can. That is certainly not
true of cars, motor cycles, leaf blowers or lawn mowers.
They are now trying to ban loud generators in some places.
Since a suppressed center fire rifle is still 130 dB or higher these
people who think it is "silent" should shut the **** up about 90 dB
leaf blowers.


What a wonderful name..."the hearing protection act."

I don't see any problems with the current regs regarding suppressors. I
got one without any fuss or muss...I bought the device, the dealer stuck
it in his safe, we filed the paperwork and paid for the stamp, and I got
approved. Yawn.


No fuss? Create a trust, lots of paperwork. Sounds like a lot of fuss and
unnecessary expense.



Breathing probably is an effort for you.


Nope, unlike you. No fuss, says you go down to the local gun shop, and buy
one. Sort of like going to the grocery stores re and buying some Kale.

Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 2:09:33 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/5/17 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:27:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

A great article from the Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...004-story.html

"The dead weren’t even finished dying in Las Vegas before the left
swooped down to feed on gun
control politics."
I see that they are going after the "hearing protection act" too, in
spite of the fact that the people in Vegas did not recognize the gun
shots until they started seeing people getting shot.
It is the only time in history that I can remember people wanting to
keep ear damaging equipment as loud as they can. That is certainly not
true of cars, motor cycles, leaf blowers or lawn mowers.
They are now trying to ban loud generators in some places.
Since a suppressed center fire rifle is still 130 dB or higher these
people who think it is "silent" should shut the **** up about 90 dB
leaf blowers.


What a wonderful name..."the hearing protection act."

I don't see any problems with the current regs regarding suppressors. I
got one without any fuss or muss...I bought the device, the dealer stuck
it in his safe, we filed the paperwork and paid for the stamp, and I got
approved. Yawn.


No fuss? Create a trust, lots of paperwork. Sounds like a lot of fuss and
unnecessary expense.

The trust and stamp adds $300 to the cost of the suppressor, and there's
a wait of about 4 months to get approved. And now you have to be
fingerprinted to be in the trust for new purchases.

It's a PITA.


And Harry thinks this is fuss less?

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 12:36:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 10/5/17 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:27:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

A great article from the Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...004-story.html

"The dead weren’t even finished dying in Las Vegas before the left swooped down to feed on gun
control politics."
I see that they are going after the "hearing protection act" too, in
spite of the fact that the people in Vegas did not recognize the gun
shots until they started seeing people getting shot.
It is the only time in history that I can remember people wanting to
keep ear damaging equipment as loud as they can. That is certainly not
true of cars, motor cycles, leaf blowers or lawn mowers.
They are now trying to ban loud generators in some places.
Since a suppressed center fire rifle is still 130 dB or higher these
people who think it is "silent" should shut the **** up about 90 dB
leaf blowers.


What a wonderful name..."the hearing protection act."

I don't see any problems with the current regs regarding suppressors. I
got one without any fuss or muss...I bought the device, the dealer stuck
it in his safe, we filed the paperwork and paid for the stamp, and I got
approved. Yawn.

You like unnecessary government bureaucracy and taxes.

There is no real reason why suppressors are NFA items except someone
thought it was a good idea 80 years ago. That was long before anyone
believed loud noises cause deafness.
This is the only thing I can think of that people want to be louder
than they need to be.

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 18:09:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

And most silencers lose effectiveness after about 5shots.

Not really.

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 18:09:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/5/17 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:27:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

A great article from the Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...004-story.html

"The dead weren’t even finished dying in Las Vegas before the left
swooped down to feed on gun
control politics."
I see that they are going after the "hearing protection act" too, in
spite of the fact that the people in Vegas did not recognize the gun
shots until they started seeing people getting shot.
It is the only time in history that I can remember people wanting to
keep ear damaging equipment as loud as they can. That is certainly not
true of cars, motor cycles, leaf blowers or lawn mowers.
They are now trying to ban loud generators in some places.
Since a suppressed center fire rifle is still 130 dB or higher these
people who think it is "silent" should shut the **** up about 90 dB
leaf blowers.


What a wonderful name..."the hearing protection act."

I don't see any problems with the current regs regarding suppressors. I
got one without any fuss or muss...I bought the device, the dealer stuck
it in his safe, we filed the paperwork and paid for the stamp, and I got
approved. Yawn.


No fuss? Create a trust, lots of paperwork. Sounds like a lot of fuss and
unnecessary expense.

I bet by the time Harry was done with the lawyer, the county clerk and
the BATF it was over $500 ($200 stamp, $250-300 for an hour with a
lawyer and recording fees).
There is also an active effort from the usual suspects to eliminate
the "trust loophole".
I owned my machine gun as an individual and it still seemed pretty
cumbersome to me. That was a machine gun. Having to do the same thing
for a piece of threaded pipe really seems stupid (the "can" is the
regulated part)
It is even dumber when you can get a 15-20 dB reduction with a 2 liter
pop bottle.

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 11:41:58 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 2:09:33 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/5/17 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:27:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

A great article from the Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...004-story.html

"The dead weren’t even finished dying in Las Vegas before the left
swooped down to feed on gun
control politics."
I see that they are going after the "hearing protection act" too, in
spite of the fact that the people in Vegas did not recognize the gun
shots until they started seeing people getting shot.
It is the only time in history that I can remember people wanting to
keep ear damaging equipment as loud as they can. That is certainly not
true of cars, motor cycles, leaf blowers or lawn mowers.
They are now trying to ban loud generators in some places.
Since a suppressed center fire rifle is still 130 dB or higher these
people who think it is "silent" should shut the **** up about 90 dB
leaf blowers.


What a wonderful name..."the hearing protection act."

I don't see any problems with the current regs regarding suppressors. I
got one without any fuss or muss...I bought the device, the dealer stuck
it in his safe, we filed the paperwork and paid for the stamp, and I got
approved. Yawn.


No fuss? Create a trust, lots of paperwork. Sounds like a lot of fuss and
unnecessary expense.

The trust and stamp adds $300 to the cost of the suppressor, and there's a wait of about 4 months to get approved. And now you have to be fingerprinted to be in the trust for new purchases.

It's a PITA.

Where are you finding a $100 lawyer?

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 19:43:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Nope, unlike you. No fuss, says you go down to the local gun shop, and buy
one. Sort of like going to the grocery stores re and buying some Kale.

The proposed law will regulate the cans as "firearms" so there is
still a 4473, background check maybe a waiting period and the ban on
interstate sales if they make it like a handgun.

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 19:43:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Its Me wrote:

No fuss? Create a trust, lots of paperwork. Sounds like a lot of fuss and
unnecessary expense.

The trust and stamp adds $300 to the cost of the suppressor, and there's
a wait of about 4 months to get approved. And now you have to be
fingerprinted to be in the trust for new purchases.

It's a PITA.


And Harry thinks this is fuss less?

Harry thinks anything he has actually done is no problem. I can
remember when I bought my machine gun he thought that was too much
fuss for him.

On 10/5/17 4:05 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 18:09:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/5/17 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:27:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

A great article from the Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...004-story.html

"The dead weren’t even finished dying in Las Vegas before the left
swooped down to feed on gun
control politics."
I see that they are going after the "hearing protection act" too, in
spite of the fact that the people in Vegas did not recognize the gun
shots until they started seeing people getting shot.
It is the only time in history that I can remember people wanting to
keep ear damaging equipment as loud as they can. That is certainly not
true of cars, motor cycles, leaf blowers or lawn mowers.
They are now trying to ban loud generators in some places.
Since a suppressed center fire rifle is still 130 dB or higher these
people who think it is "silent" should shut the **** up about 90 dB
leaf blowers.


What a wonderful name..."the hearing protection act."

I don't see any problems with the current regs regarding suppressors. I
got one without any fuss or muss...I bought the device, the dealer stuck
it in his safe, we filed the paperwork and paid for the stamp, and I got
approved. Yawn.


No fuss? Create a trust, lots of paperwork. Sounds like a lot of fuss and
unnecessary expense.

I bet by the time Harry was done with the lawyer, the county clerk and
the BATF it was over $500 ($200 stamp, $250-300 for an hour with a
lawyer and recording fees).
There is also an active effort from the usual suspects to eliminate
the "trust loophole".
I owned my machine gun as an individual and it still seemed pretty
cumbersome to me. That was a machine gun. Having to do the same thing
for a piece of threaded pipe really seems stupid (the "can" is the
regulated part)
It is even dumber when you can get a 15-20 dB reduction with a 2 liter
pop bottle.



No lawyer, no county clerk, no recording fees. Silencer dealer is a
notary. $200 for the tax stamp. Trust document provided at no cost by
the vendor...just filled in the blanks.

wrote:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 19:43:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Nope, unlike you. No fuss, says you go down to the local gun shop, and buy
one. Sort of like going to the grocery stores re and buying some Kale.

The proposed law will regulate the cans as "firearms" so there is
still a 4473, background check maybe a waiting period and the ban on
interstate sales if they make it like a handgun.


Can not be. Harry says is a no fuss purchase.