Speaking of Christmas in September
 

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:20:23 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Well if memory serves me right. I believe John was asking what "brand" of oil to put in his Yamaha outboard. Greg might have musunderstood and stated to use 2-cycle only, assuming the engine was a 2-stroke instead of 4. Not so. Johns engine was a 4 cycle. So that's that. Once figured out then a brand recommendation was easy to put in the engine and not mix with the fuel...

I am not sure I was in the 2 stroke oil thing.

Well, you were. You doled out the advice to be sure and use 2-stroke oil and not 4-stroke, which
would have been great advice had the Yamaha been a 2-stroker!

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

Wrote in message:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:25:38 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/22/17 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
10:00 AMTrue North
- show quoted text -
Were these "experts" the same ones that told y'all to dump 2 stroke oil into a 4 stroke engine?
~~Snerk~~
---/

Well if memory serves me right. I believe John was asking what "brand" of oil to put in his Yamaha outboard. Greg might have musunderstood and stated to use 2-cycle only, assuming the engine was a 2-stroke instead of 4. Not so. Johns engine was a 4 cycle. So that's that. Once figured out then a brand recommendation was easy to put in the engine and not mix with the fuel...


Actually, I recall it as Johnny the Racist wanting to use WD-40 to
winterize his outboard. There was another inane question from JohnnyBoy
about which oil to use as oil, as it were.

Actually I am not sure why WD40 would not do a decent job of
winterizing an outboard. You are just trying to prevent corrosion.
By the time you get a cranky old 2 stroke going in the spring, it will
be saturated in fuel oil mix.
I suspect you could do pretty much the same thing by just pumping the
enricher (pushing in the key) while it is running, until it stalled.
(isn't that essentially what an Etec does)
Then drain the carb and blow out the lines and drain the tank.
Gas being what it is, I would rather take my chances on a little
condensation than have a tank of bad gas in the spring.
Fill it with E-10 and rock and roll in the spring. That will burn off
any condensation you had.


WD40 was designed to be a water displacement agent When it dries
it leaves little or no anti corrosive film. CRC 6-56 and
especially fogging oil do a much better job .
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Speaking of Christmas in September
 

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 07:49:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:29:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:25:38 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/22/17 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
10:00 AMTrue North
- show quoted text -
Were these "experts" the same ones that told y'all to dump 2 stroke oil into a 4 stroke engine?
~~Snerk~~
---/

Well if memory serves me right. I believe John was asking what "brand" of oil to put in his Yamaha outboard. Greg might have musunderstood and stated to use 2-cycle only, assuming the engine was a 2-stroke instead of 4. Not so. Johns engine was a 4 cycle. So that's that. Once figured out then a brand recommendation was easy to put in the engine and not mix with the fuel...


Actually, I recall it as Johnny the Racist wanting to use WD-40 to
winterize his outboard. There was another inane question from JohnnyBoy
about which oil to use as oil, as it were.

Actually I am not sure why WD40 would not do a decent job of
winterizing an outboard. You are just trying to prevent corrosion.
By the time you get a cranky old 2 stroke going in the spring, it will
be saturated in fuel oil mix.
I suspect you could do pretty much the same thing by just pumping the
enricher (pushing in the key) while it is running, until it stalled.
(isn't that essentially what an Etec does)
Then drain the carb and blow out the lines and drain the tank.
Gas being what it is, I would rather take my chances on a little
condensation than have a tank of bad gas in the spring.
Fill it with E-10 and rock and roll in the spring. That will burn off
any condensation you had.

There you go. That was the damn question.

Now I'm wondering if a light coating of spray olive oil might do the job.

In a lot of cases, oil is oil. I know the DEP uses canola oil on the
chains of their chain saws here and they have no complaints about
early end of life on them.

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:31:59 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

WD40 was designed to be a water displacement agent When it dries
it leaves little or no anti corrosive film. CRC 6-56 and
especially fogging oil do a much better job .
--
x


WD40 folks say this
"WD-40® Multi-Use Product remains effective even after it appears to
dry. The corrosion and rust protection ingredients remain adhered to
the surface."
I really have no opinion on it since there is no such thing as winter
here, at least not in the "put your boat away for 8 months" sense.

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 09:51:28 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:31:59 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

WD40 was designed to be a water displacement agent When it dries
it leaves little or no anti corrosive film. CRC 6-56 and
especially fogging oil do a much better job .
--
x


WD40 folks say this
"WD-40® Multi-Use Product remains effective even after it appears to
dry. The corrosion and rust protection ingredients remain adhered to
the surface."
I really have no opinion on it since there is no such thing as winter
here, at least not in the "put your boat away for 8 months" sense.

Well, given the leg, the season, the RV, etc, it may be some time before my boat hits the water
again, therefore I may have to do something. Your mention of Canola oil has made the decision more
difficult...WD-40, olive oil, canola oil, or that expensive stuff. Hard to choose. Maybe I'll just
let it sit and not worry about it.

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 10:15:49 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 09:51:28 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:31:59 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

WD40 was designed to be a water displacement agent When it dries
it leaves little or no anti corrosive film. CRC 6-56 and
especially fogging oil do a much better job .
--
x


WD40 folks say this
"WD-40® Multi-Use Product remains effective even after it appears to
dry. The corrosion and rust protection ingredients remain adhered to
the surface."
I really have no opinion on it since there is no such thing as winter
here, at least not in the "put your boat away for 8 months" sense.

Well, given the leg, the season, the RV, etc, it may be some time before my boat hits the water
again, therefore I may have to do something. Your mention of Canola oil has made the decision more
difficult...WD-40, olive oil, canola oil, or that expensive stuff. Hard to choose. Maybe I'll just
let it sit and not worry about it.

I already suggested just flooding it with TCW-3 (gasoline) mix might
be as good as fogging. That is basically what the E-tec does.

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:29:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:25:38 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/22/17 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
10:00 AMTrue North
- show quoted text -
Were these "experts" the same ones that told y'all to dump 2 stroke oil into a 4 stroke engine?
~~Snerk~~
---/

Well if memory serves me right. I believe John was asking what "brand" of oil to put in his Yamaha outboard. Greg might have musunderstood and stated to use 2-cycle only, assuming the engine was a 2-stroke instead of 4. Not so. Johns engine was a 4 cycle. So that's that. Once figured out then a brand recommendation was easy to put in the engine and not mix with the fuel...

Actually, I recall it as Johnny the Racist wanting to use WD-40 to
winterize his outboard. There was another inane question from JohnnyBoy
about which oil to use as oil, as it were.
Actually I am not sure why WD40 would not do a decent job of
winterizing an outboard. You are just trying to prevent corrosion.
By the time you get a cranky old 2 stroke going in the spring, it will
be saturated in fuel oil mix.
I suspect you could do pretty much the same thing by just pumping the
enricher (pushing in the key) while it is running, until it stalled.
(isn't that essentially what an Etec does)
Then drain the carb and blow out the lines and drain the tank.
Gas being what it is, I would rather take my chances on a little
condensation than have a tank of bad gas in the spring.
Fill it with E-10 and rock and roll in the spring. That will burn off
any condensation you had.
There you go. That was the damn question.

Now I'm wondering if a light coating of spray olive oil might do the job.
Extra virgin olive oil is fine.

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

Alex wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:29:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:25:38 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/22/17 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
10:00 AMTrue North
- show quoted text -
Were these "experts" the same ones that told y'all to dump 2 stroke
oil into a 4 stroke engine?
~~Snerk~~
---/

Well if memory serves me right. I believe John was asking what
"brand" of oil to put in his Yamaha outboard. Greg might have
musunderstood and stated to use 2-cycle only, assuming the engine was
a 2-stroke instead of 4. Not so. Johns engine was a 4 cycle. So
that's that. Once figured out then a brand recommendation was easy to
put in the engine and not mix with the fuel...

Actually, I recall it as Johnny the Racist wanting to use WD-40 to
winterize his outboard. There was another inane question from JohnnyBoy
about which oil to use as oil, as it were.
Actually I am not sure why WD40 would not do a decent job of
winterizing an outboard. You are just trying to prevent corrosion.
By the time you get a cranky old 2 stroke going in the spring, it will
be saturated in fuel oil mix.
I suspect you could do pretty much the same thing by just pumping the
enricher (pushing in the key) while it is running, until it stalled.
(isn't that essentially what an Etec does)
Then drain the carb and blow out the lines and drain the tank.
Gas being what it is, I would rather take my chances on a little
condensation than have a tank of bad gas in the spring.
Fill it with E-10 and rock and roll in the spring. That will burn off
any condensation you had.
There you go. That was the damn question.

Now I'm wondering if a light coating of spray olive oil might do the job.
Extra virgin olive oil is fine.



Olive conceals in cold temps.

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

On 9/23/17 11:32 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:29:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:25:38 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/22/17 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
10:00 AMTrue North
- show quoted text -
Were these "experts" the same ones that told y'all to dump 2 stroke
oil into a 4 stroke engine?
~~Snerk~~
---/

Well if memory serves me right. I believe John was asking what
"brand" of oil to put in his Yamaha outboard. Greg might have
musunderstood and stated to use 2-cycle only, assuming the engine was
a 2-stroke instead of 4. Not so. Johns engine was a 4 cycle. So
that's that. Once figured out then a brand recommendation was easy to
put in the engine and not mix with the fuel...

Actually, I recall it as Johnny the Racist wanting to use WD-40 to
winterize his outboard. There was another inane question from JohnnyBoy
about which oil to use as oil, as it were.
Actually I am not sure why WD40 would not do a decent job of
winterizing an outboard. You are just trying to prevent corrosion.
By the time you get a cranky old 2 stroke going in the spring, it will
be saturated in fuel oil mix.
I suspect you could do pretty much the same thing by just pumping the
enricher (pushing in the key) while it is running, until it stalled.
(isn't that essentially what an Etec does)
Then drain the carb and blow out the lines and drain the tank.
Gas being what it is, I would rather take my chances on a little
condensation than have a tank of bad gas in the spring.
Fill it with E-10 and rock and roll in the spring. That will burn off
any condensation you had.
There you go. That was the damn question.

Now I'm wondering if a light coating of spray olive oil might do the job.
Extra virgin olive oil is fine.



Olive conceals in cold temps.


And not only does it hide itself, it also congeals.

Speaking of Christmas in September
 

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 09:27:54 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/23/17 11:32 PM, Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:29:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:25:38 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/22/17 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
10:00 AMTrue North
- show quoted text -
Were these "experts" the same ones that told y'all to dump 2 stroke
oil into a 4 stroke engine?
~~Snerk~~
---/

Well if memory serves me right. I believe John was asking what
"brand" of oil to put in his Yamaha outboard. Greg might have
musunderstood and stated to use 2-cycle only, assuming the engine was
a 2-stroke instead of 4. Not so. Johns engine was a 4 cycle. So
that's that. Once figured out then a brand recommendation was easy to
put in the engine and not mix with the fuel...

Actually, I recall it as Johnny the Racist wanting to use WD-40 to
winterize his outboard. There was another inane question from JohnnyBoy
about which oil to use as oil, as it were.
Actually I am not sure why WD40 would not do a decent job of
winterizing an outboard. You are just trying to prevent corrosion.
By the time you get a cranky old 2 stroke going in the spring, it will
be saturated in fuel oil mix.
I suspect you could do pretty much the same thing by just pumping the
enricher (pushing in the key) while it is running, until it stalled.
(isn't that essentially what an Etec does)
Then drain the carb and blow out the lines and drain the tank.
Gas being what it is, I would rather take my chances on a little
condensation than have a tank of bad gas in the spring.
Fill it with E-10 and rock and roll in the spring. That will burn off
any condensation you had.
There you go. That was the damn question.

Now I'm wondering if a light coating of spray olive oil might do the job.
Extra virgin olive oil is fine.



Olive conceals in cold temps.


And not only does it hide itself, it also congeals.


~~Snerk~~
You would think an 'engineer' would know the difference between conceal and congeal.