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This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you.
Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! |
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On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. Obviously you and Krause are the brightest lightbulbs on the tree, eh Donnee? |
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On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Ouch! Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee!8 Ouch! Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. You obviously haven't seen a snapshot of Harry. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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John H wrote:
This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Sorry to hear that. Heels are almost impossible to repair completely. Why I am buying a new Hobie I11s to replace my Hobie Outback. Not climbing on the 9' roof of the new Cirrus 820. Still figuring that n to install a storage cover. |
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True North wrote:
On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:25:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Ouch! Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. That got a laugh! I'll keep my fingers crossed. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 12:04:03 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! 8 Ouch! Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. You obviously haven't seen a snapshot of Harry. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. I'm thinking that even on crutches I'd probably outdistance him. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:24:29 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. The ladder was on the driveway, which is why the lean angle wasn't enough. I wanted to keep it out of the dirt. Dumb. |
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On 9/17/17 11:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Ouch!Â* Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. The only event involving Herring which I would gladly attend is his funeral, and then only to see how many folks from minority groups pee on his grave. I know someone who "shattered" his heel bone. All cases are different, of course, but it took him quite a while to recover. Next time he should fall on his head, as Calif Bill did... |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:56:02 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/17/17 11:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Ouch!* Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. The only event involving Herring which I would gladly attend is his funeral, and then only to see how many folks from minority groups pee on his grave. I know someone who "shattered" his heel bone. All cases are different, of course, but it took him quite a while to recover. Next time he should fall on his head, as Calif Bill did... I suppose it would be hard to take me out on your 'imaginary' boat. |
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On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote:
True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 9/17/2017 5:15 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. Learned your lesson, huh? :-) |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/17/17 11:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Ouch! Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. The only event involving Herring which I would gladly attend is his funeral, and then only to see how many folks from minority groups pee on his grave. I know someone who "shattered" his heel bone. All cases are different, of course, but it took him quite a while to recover. Next time he should fall on his head, as Calif Bill did... You are quite the asshole Mr. Blubber. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/17/2017 5:15 PM, justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. Learned your lesson, huh? :-) Yup! -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/17/17 11:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/17/2017 8:50 AM, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Ouch!Â* Hope the surgery and healing goes well and quickly. Just think. Harry might take you up on your walking the golf course challenge now. The only event involving Herring which I would gladly attend is his funeral, and then only to see how many folks from minority groups pee on his grave. I know someone who "shattered" his heel bone. All cases are different, of course, but it took him quite a while to recover. Next time he should fall on his head, as Calif Bill did... Did not fall on my head. You must have as your head seems to be ****ed up. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:50:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I just knew someone was going to say that! I've been thinking of ways to clean off the tops of the slides. The only way to do it without a separate ladder is to use the trailer ladder, mounted on the trailer, to climb on the roof and walk around with the broom. But, the trailer ladder is mounted right over the picture window in the back of the rig. Messes up the view of the river, doncha know. I had cotton socks wrapped over the ends of the ladder to protect the finish on the rig. Might have to rethink that. I've got an old motorcycle tire inner tube that may do a good job of protecting and not be as slippery. And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder! |
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On 9/18/2017 7:40 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:50:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I just knew someone was going to say that! I've been thinking of ways to clean off the tops of the slides. The only way to do it without a separate ladder is to use the trailer ladder, mounted on the trailer, to climb on the roof and walk around with the broom. But, the trailer ladder is mounted right over the picture window in the back of the rig. Messes up the view of the river, doncha know. I had cotton socks wrapped over the ends of the ladder to protect the finish on the rig. Might have to rethink that. I've got an old motorcycle tire inner tube that may do a good job of protecting and not be as slippery. And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder! Or hire a 18 year old flexible flyer to clean it for you. :-) |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote: And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder! === That's the big one right there. Also, use a sturdy plank under the ladder if the ground shows any sign of softness. Check again part way up with your full weight on the ladder. Last but not least, tie the ladder off if at all possible. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery. |
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wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H wrote: And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder! === That's the big one right there. Also, use a sturdy plank under the ladder if the ground shows any sign of softness. Check again part way up with your full weight on the ladder. Last but not least, tie the ladder off if at all possible. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com When I rode the ladder down last year, I was only up about 5'. |
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John H Wrote in message:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery. I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is pretty easy but I'm careful about it. What seams are you talking about? -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H
wrote: On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:50:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I just knew someone was going to say that! I've been thinking of ways to clean off the tops of the slides. The only way to do it without a separate ladder is to use the trailer ladder, mounted on the trailer, to climb on the roof and walk around with the broom. But, the trailer ladder is mounted right over the picture window in the back of the rig. Messes up the view of the river, doncha know. I had cotton socks wrapped over the ends of the ladder to protect the finish on the rig. Might have to rethink that. I've got an old motorcycle tire inner tube that may do a good job of protecting and not be as slippery. And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder! I have been doing Flying Wallenda tricks on a ladder the last few days, rolling in new screen panels. Where are the screen monkeys when you need one? ;-) |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message: On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery. I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is pretty easy but I'm careful about it. What seams are you talking about? The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear, any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:28:58 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:40:31 -0400, John H wrote: And, of course, quit trying to cheat on the lean angle of the ladder! === That's the big one right there. Also, use a sturdy plank under the ladder if the ground shows any sign of softness. Check again part way up with your full weight on the ladder. Last but not least, tie the ladder off if at all possible. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com When I rode the ladder down last year, I was only up about 5'. The distance from my heel to the concrete was probably not much more. |
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John H Wrote in message:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: John H Wrote in message: On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery. I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is pretty easy but I'm careful about it. What seams are you talking about? The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear, any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. Oh. I was thinking your roof might not have been made with a single sheet of material. Mine has lap sealant anywhere there is a roof penetration, same as yours. I overlay sealant once or twice a year anywhere I see it cracking. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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John H Wrote in message: To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe vertigo sets in. :-) |
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On 9/18/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
John H Wrote in message: *To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. I don't do house roofs either.* If I get four feet from the edge, severe vertigo sets in.** :-) I remember the time I spent in Thunder Bay, Ontario, one week. Really, really, really cold. And I saw crews shoveling snow off the roofs of houses. Was told the home insurance companies paid for those crews because it was a lot cheaper than replacing roofs that collapsed from the 4' or more of snow load on them. There was four to five feet of snow on the ground, too, so I guess if the guys on the roofs fell off, they're be more likely to suffocate in a snow bank than get seriously injured in a fall. :) Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along the curbs were huge. |
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/18/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: John H Wrote in message: To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe vertigo sets in. :-) I remember the time I spent in Thunder Bay, Ontario, one week. Really, really, really cold. And I saw crews shoveling snow off the roofs of houses. Was told the home insurance companies paid for those crews because it was a lot cheaper than replacing roofs that collapsed from the 4' or more of snow load on them. There was four to five feet of snow on the ground, too, so I guess if the guys on the roofs fell off, they're be more likely to suffocate in a snow bank than get seriously injured in a fall. :) Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along the curbs were huge. I drove a rental to Thunder Bay once. Did what I had to do, and got out. Kanada in the winter is for the birds. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:29:58 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: John H Wrote in message: On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery. I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is pretty easy but I'm careful about it. What seams are you talking about? The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear, any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. Oh. I was thinking your roof might not have been made with a single sheet of material. Mine has lap sealant anywhere there is a roof penetration, same as yours. I overlay sealant once or twice a year anywhere I see it cracking. |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:29:58 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:29:32 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: John H Wrote in message: On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:15:10 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: "Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 9/17/2017 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: True North wrote: On Sunday, 17 September 2017 09:50:07 UTC-3, John H wrote: This should detract Harry and Donnee from their 'falling from a roof' lies about you. Friday I leaned a ladder against the trailer, with not nearly enough lean. Got up to the top, started to sweep debris off the roof of the bedroom slide, and the ladder slipped. Down I went, landing squarely on my right heel on the concrete driveway. Crawled up the driveway and into the house to call 911. ER doc says heel bone (calcaneus) is 'shattered' and will require surgery. And all I'd had to drink was coffee! Say what? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that you place the ladder feet 1 foot out for every 4 feet high. I had my smaller 20' extension ladder up against a tree yesterday with the feet on soft dirt. Needed to replace a snapped clothes line. No problem. The ladder should be tied off. Not depending on lean. Especially on dirt, where the ladder can sink in at a differential rate between the two legs. 70 something year-olds don't belong on ladders. Period. :-) I am not quite 70 yet but I get dizzy on the second rung. I got my ladder out and set it up to survey the roof a couple of days ago. Chickened out and put the ladder away. I did the survey with the drone instead. Much safer. You've got a fiberglass roof, right? Mine is EPMD. I like the drone idea, but it would take a long time to check all the seams on the EPMD roof. Being up on the roof isn't bad. It's not slippery. I was talking about the house roof John. Getting on the RV roof is pretty easy but I'm careful about it. What seams are you talking about? The EPMD roof is full of seams which are covered with a self-levelling caulk. Sides, front, rear, any openings (AC, vents, antenna, etc.) - anywhere the rubber roof meets a different material. The caulk can dry and shrink and then leak. Or, the rubber can be holed by tree branch. I crawl over the whole thing at least twice a year. To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. Oh. I was thinking your roof might not have been made with a single sheet of material. Mine has lap sealant anywhere there is a roof penetration, same as yours. I overlay sealant once or twice a year anywhere I see it cracking. Lap sealant. That's it. Couldn't think of the name. |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:54:45 -0400, John H
wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:00:39 -0400, wrote: I have been doing Flying Wallenda tricks on a ladder the last few days, rolling in new screen panels. Where are the screen monkeys when you need one? ;-) Don't fall on concrete and land on one heel! I did that in the pool once and it took a year to get over it |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:29:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
John H Wrote in message: To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe vertigo sets in. :-) I'll bet it's not vertigo. Most likely it's illyngophobia. I'll let you look it up. I realized I sufferred from same when I took a motorcycle ride in the French Alps when I was about 63. It also kicks in in places like the Grand Canyon, Canyonlands, anywhere there is a drop...including the high part of my roof. I'm OK if I get on my butt and inch my way to the edge. |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:53:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/18/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: John H Wrote in message: *To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. I don't do house roofs either.* If I get four feet from the edge, severe vertigo sets in.** :-) I remember the time I spent in Thunder Bay, Ontario, one week. Really, really, really cold. And I saw crews shoveling snow off the roofs of houses. Was told the home insurance companies paid for those crews because it was a lot cheaper than replacing roofs that collapsed from the 4' or more of snow load on them. There was four to five feet of snow on the ground, too, so I guess if the guys on the roofs fell off, they're be more likely to suffocate in a snow bank than get seriously injured in a fall. :) Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along the curbs were huge. Those union guys are simply the best! |
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On 9/18/17 3:07 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/18/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: John H Wrote in message: To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe vertigo sets in. :-) I remember the time I spent in Thunder Bay, Ontario, one week. Really, really, really cold. And I saw crews shoveling snow off the roofs of houses. Was told the home insurance companies paid for those crews because it was a lot cheaper than replacing roofs that collapsed from the 4' or more of snow load on them. There was four to five feet of snow on the ground, too, so I guess if the guys on the roofs fell off, they're be more likely to suffocate in a snow bank than get seriously injured in a fall. :) Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along the curbs were huge. I drove a rental to Thunder Bay once. Did what I had to do, and got out. Kanada in the winter is for the birds. I would have preferred to be there in the summer for fishing. Still, there were guys out there ice fishing. Too cold for me. I was there representing an international union in the amalgamation of several locals, and there were four days of meetings. Got a nice feature story on another aspect of the trip, though. That was a lot less boring. :) |
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On Monday, 18 September 2017 16:07:14 UTC-3, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/18/17 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: John H Wrote in message: To get on the house roof I don't need a ladder. Can climb out a bedroom window and then have access to entire roof with a step stool. I don't do house roofs either. If I get four feet from the edge, severe vertigo sets in. :-) I remember the time I spent in Thunder Bay, Ontario, one week. Really, really, really cold. And I saw crews shoveling snow off the roofs of houses. Was told the home insurance companies paid for those crews because it was a lot cheaper than replacing roofs that collapsed from the 4' or more of snow load on them. There was four to five feet of snow on the ground, too, so I guess if the guys on the roofs fell off, they're be more likely to suffocate in a snow bank than get seriously injured in a fall. :) Amazingly, one night I was there when it snowed at least a foot, and the next morning, early, the union rep from the local arrived on time to pick me up. The streets had already been cleared. The snowbanks along the curbs were huge. I drove a rental to Thunder Bay once. Did what I had to do, and got out. Kanada in the winter is for the birds. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ As I've said many times, Justine...it's no country for girliemen! |
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