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Mr. Luddite[_4_] September 20th 17 02:29 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On 9/19/2017 8:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 07:45:26 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The generator burns 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 "gallons" of propane an hour,
depending on the load. We do keep the load as low as possible, though,


Yikes. I was complaining about 0.8 GPH. If you are happy burning 36
gallons a day and up, I will STFU. What do you pay for propane? It
seems to be $2-4 a gallon here depending on some mysterious formula.
A 250 gallon tank (really 200) is only going to last 5 days at the low
end of usage and you could burn it in 3 days if you actually used that
17KVA
Yikes!
So much for the whole house generator for me. Mine did run my whole
house minus the AC, dryer and water heater and I have a plan for the
water heater. With a pool, the AC is not important during the day and
at night my generator runs the mini split in the bedroom just fine.


Harry's genset only runs on Saturdays for 10 min. He hasn't mentioned
any long term power outages that I know of.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] September 20th 17 02:35 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On 9/19/2017 9:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/19/17 8:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 07:45:26 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The generator burns 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 "gallons" of propane an hour,
depending on the load. We do keep the load as low as possible, though,


Yikes. I was complaining about 0.8 GPH. If you are happy burning 36
gallons a day and up, I will STFU. What do you pay for propane? It
seems to be $2-4 a gallon here depending on some mysterious formula.
A 250 gallon tank (really 200) is only going to last 5 days at the low
end of usage and you could burn it in 3 days if you actually used that
17KVA
Yikes!
So much for the whole house generator for me. Mine did run my whole
house minus the AC, dryer and water heater and I have a plan for the
water heater. With a pool, the AC is not important during the day and
at night my generator runs the mini split in the bedroom just fine.


The last time I looked, some months ago, it was about $2.59 a gallon.
Our "outages" usually last only a few hours, sometimes overnight, and
typically we only get one every few months. We got the generator after a
big outage that lasted a week. Our yippy-dippy local electrical co-op
seems to have gotten better over the years. Or the storms have gotten
smaller. If we had a four day outage, it would cost about $250 in fuel,
less than we'd spend on a decent local motel, assuming we could find one
that had power.



You'd move into a motel because of a four day power outage if you didn't
have your generator?

Why?

[email protected] September 20th 17 03:06 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:07:34 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/19/17 8:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 07:45:26 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The generator burns 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 "gallons" of propane an hour,
depending on the load. We do keep the load as low as possible, though,


Yikes. I was complaining about 0.8 GPH. If you are happy burning 36
gallons a day and up, I will STFU. What do you pay for propane? It
seems to be $2-4 a gallon here depending on some mysterious formula.
A 250 gallon tank (really 200) is only going to last 5 days at the low
end of usage and you could burn it in 3 days if you actually used that
17KVA
Yikes!
So much for the whole house generator for me. Mine did run my whole
house minus the AC, dryer and water heater and I have a plan for the
water heater. With a pool, the AC is not important during the day and
at night my generator runs the mini split in the bedroom just fine.


The last time I looked, some months ago, it was about $2.59 a gallon.
Our "outages" usually last only a few hours, sometimes overnight, and
typically we only get one every few months. We got the generator after a
big outage that lasted a week. Our yippy-dippy local electrical co-op
seems to have gotten better over the years. Or the storms have gotten
smaller. If we had a four day outage, it would cost about $250 in fuel,
less than we'd spend on a decent local motel, assuming we could find one
that had power.


I guess when you think about a hotel it is a bargain. I think we paid
almost $250 for one night at the Hilton in Dowell by the time we got
out the door

[email protected] September 20th 17 03:48 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:35:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/19/2017 9:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/19/17 8:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 07:45:26 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The generator burns 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 "gallons" of propane an hour,
depending on the load. We do keep the load as low as possible, though,

Yikes. I was complaining about 0.8 GPH. If you are happy burning 36
gallons a day and up, I will STFU. What do you pay for propane? It
seems to be $2-4 a gallon here depending on some mysterious formula.
A 250 gallon tank (really 200) is only going to last 5 days at the low
end of usage and you could burn it in 3 days if you actually used that
17KVA
Yikes!
So much for the whole house generator for me. Mine did run my whole
house minus the AC, dryer and water heater and I have a plan for the
water heater. With a pool, the AC is not important during the day and
at night my generator runs the mini split in the bedroom just fine.


The last time I looked, some months ago, it was about $2.59 a gallon.
Our "outages" usually last only a few hours, sometimes overnight, and
typically we only get one every few months. We got the generator after a
big outage that lasted a week. Our yippy-dippy local electrical co-op
seems to have gotten better over the years. Or the storms have gotten
smaller. If we had a four day outage, it would cost about $250 in fuel,
less than we'd spend on a decent local motel, assuming we could find one
that had power.



You'd move into a motel because of a four day power outage if you didn't
have your generator?

Why?


I wondered that myself but it doesn't surprise me from a city boy.
I don't really prefer camping but I still know how to do it.
After a week I think I can make 5.5kw work for us.
It is not like we were really suffering anyway. I just had more
nuisance trips than I liked. I am looking for a maintenance manual to
see if there is a way to adjust the voltage, that was my other issue.

[email protected] September 20th 17 04:27 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:51:02 -0400, wrote:

The generator burns 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 "gallons" of propane an hour,
depending on the load. We do keep the load as low as possible, though,


Yikes. I was complaining about 0.8 GPH. If you are happy burning 36
gallons a day and up, I will STFU. What do you pay for propane? It
seems to be $2-4 a gallon here depending on some mysterious formula.
A 250 gallon tank (really 200) is only going to last 5 days at the low
end of usage and you could burn it in 3 days if you actually used that
17KVA
Yikes!
So much for the whole house generator for me. Mine did run my whole
house minus the AC, dryer and water heater and I have a plan for the
water heater. With a pool, the AC is not important during the day and
at night my generator runs the mini split in the bedroom just fine.


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Water cooled diesel is the best way to go if you can handle the
initial cost - much quieter, much more fuel efficient. Of course it's
even better if it comes with a boat wrapped around it. :-)

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[email protected] September 20th 17 04:34 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:48:24 -0400, wrote:

I am looking for a maintenance manual to
see if there is a way to adjust the voltage, that was my other issue.


===

Generally if you adjust the RPMs upward a tad you will increase the
voltage and frequency at the same time.

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[email protected] September 20th 17 06:17 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:27:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:51:02 -0400,
wrote:

The generator burns 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 "gallons" of propane an hour,
depending on the load. We do keep the load as low as possible, though,


Yikes. I was complaining about 0.8 GPH. If you are happy burning 36
gallons a day and up, I will STFU. What do you pay for propane? It
seems to be $2-4 a gallon here depending on some mysterious formula.
A 250 gallon tank (really 200) is only going to last 5 days at the low
end of usage and you could burn it in 3 days if you actually used that
17KVA
Yikes!
So much for the whole house generator for me. Mine did run my whole
house minus the AC, dryer and water heater and I have a plan for the
water heater. With a pool, the AC is not important during the day and
at night my generator runs the mini split in the bedroom just fine.


===

Water cooled diesel is the best way to go if you can handle the
initial cost - much quieter, much more fuel efficient. Of course it's
even better if it comes with a boat wrapped around it. :-)

This generator was sitting in my garage unused for 5 years and the guy
I got it from had it sitting around unused in his garage for 5 years
before that. I am not sure I need another generator.

[email protected] September 20th 17 06:19 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:34:11 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:48:24 -0400,
wrote:

I am looking for a maintenance manual to
see if there is a way to adjust the voltage, that was my other issue.


===

Generally if you adjust the RPMs upward a tad you will increase the
voltage and frequency at the same time.

I already did that. The thing was running at 57hz. I went up one hole
on the governor spring arm and got it up to 60.2 HZ but the voltage is
too low. (108-110)

Mr. Luddite[_4_] September 20th 17 10:48 AM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
O9/20/2017 1:19 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:34:11 -0400,

wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:48:24 -0400,
wrote:

I am looking for a maintenance manual to
see if there is a way to adjust the voltage, that was my other issue.


===

Generally if you adjust the RPMs upward a tad you will increase the
voltage and frequency at the same time.

I already did that. The thing was running at 57hz. I went up one hole
on the governor spring arm and got it up to 60.2 HZ but the voltage is
too low. (108-110)



What is the voltage with no load and where are you measuring the voltage?

I don't know about the contractor type generators but the inverter types
like the Honda are rated at peak output wattage, not continuous duty.
I think the Honda e2000 is actually rated at 1600 watts continuous.





justan September 20th 17 12:06 PM

Looks like Jose isn't very happy now,,,
 
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/19/2017 9:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/19/17 8:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 07:45:26 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The generator burns 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 "gallons" of propane an hour,
depending on the load. We do keep the load as low as possible, though,

Yikes. I was complaining about 0.8 GPH. If you are happy burning 36
gallons a day and up, I will STFU. What do you pay for propane? It
seems to be $2-4 a gallon here depending on some mysterious formula.
A 250 gallon tank (really 200) is only going to last 5 days at the low
end of usage and you could burn it in 3 days if you actually used that
17KVA
Yikes!
So much for the whole house generator for me. Mine did run my whole
house minus the AC, dryer and water heater and I have a plan for the
water heater. With a pool, the AC is not important during the day and
at night my generator runs the mini split in the bedroom just fine.


The last time I looked, some months ago, it was about $2.59 a gallon.
Our "outages" usually last only a few hours, sometimes overnight, and
typically we only get one every few months. We got the generator after a
big outage that lasted a week. Our yippy-dippy local electrical co-op
seems to have gotten better over the years. Or the storms have gotten
smaller. If we had a four day outage, it would cost about $250 in fuel,
less than we'd spend on a decent local motel, assuming we could find one
that had power.



You'd move into a motel because of a four day power outage if you didn't
have your generator?

Why?


Because he's a wuss.
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