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Has anyone heard from Greg recently?

He seems to be missing in action.

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Harree Putz, how do u do...

If you think I'm right wing you've never met the real thing.

FYI, you once expressed an interest in the longevity and operating
costs of diesel generators on larger boats. We installed our 20KW
Kohler in the fall of 2004, shortly after we bought the boat. So it's
now 13 years old and has about 5800 hours of operating time. That's
roughly comparable to a car with 300,000 miles on it. The generator
has not been maintenance free, but has never required a
tear-down/re-build, mostly little things like sensors and hoses, but
also an exhaust elbow, a couple of new starter motors, and several
raw water pumps. Bottom line is that it's still going strong, starts
right up in a split second, does not smoke, and uses almost no oil -
about as well as you could expect for a hard working piece of
machinery of that age. On average it burns about 1/2 gallon per hour.
I'd estimate maintenance costs at about $1 per hour, maybe a little
less.

It has served us very well in the past week with our hurricane related
power failures, powering the entire house when needed, including the
central air conditioning, electric hot water and electric stove.

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Haree has a little generator to power his cpap machine and his
food chillers. I doubt it can handle central air.
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/15/2017 9:27 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:42:43 -0400, Harree Putz, aka, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/14/17 10:35 PM,
wrote:
Has anyone heard from Greg recently?

He seems to be missing in action.

---
Hope he is well and doing well. Without Fretwell, there's little in here
besides right-wing assholes, like...you.



===

Harree Putz, how do u do...

If you think I'm right wing you've never met the real thing.

FYI, you once expressed an interest in the longevity and operating
costs of diesel generators on larger boats. We installed our 20KW
Kohler in the fall of 2004, shortly after we bought the boat. So it's
now 13 years old and has about 5800 hours of operating time. That's
roughly comparable to a car with 300,000 miles on it. The generator
has not been maintenance free, but has never required a
tear-down/re-build, mostly little things like sensors and hoses, but
also an exhaust elbow, a couple of new starter motors, and several
raw water pumps. Bottom line is that it's still going strong, starts
right up in a split second, does not smoke, and uses almost no oil -
about as well as you could expect for a hard working piece of
machinery of that age. On average it burns about 1/2 gallon per hour.
I'd estimate maintenance costs at about $1 per hour, maybe a little
less.

It has served us very well in the past week with our hurricane related
power failures, powering the entire house when needed, including the
central air conditioning, electric hot water and electric stove.

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Now you did it. Harry's now going to tell us that his propane fueled
Generac that runs for 10 minutes every Saturday is *much* *MUCH* superior.




Of course. It wouldn't be Haree if he didn't.
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On 9/15/17 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/15/2017 9:27 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:42:43 -0400, Harree Putz, aka, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/14/17 10:35 PM,
wrote:
Has anyone heard from Greg recently?

He seems to be missing in action.

---
Hope he is well and doing well. Without Fretwell, there's little in here
besides right-wing assholes, like...you.



===

Harree Putz, how do u do...

If you think I'm right wing you've never met the real thing.

FYI, you once expressed an interest in the longevity and operating
costs of diesel generators on larger boats.Â* We installed our 20KW
Kohler in the fall of 2004, shortly after we bought the boat.Â* So it's
now 13 years old and has about 5800 hours of operating time.Â* That's
roughly comparable to a car with 300,000 miles on it.Â* The generator
has not been maintenance free, but has never required a
tear-down/re-build, mostly little things like sensors and hoses, but
also an exhaust elbow,Â* a couple of new starter motors, and several
raw water pumps.Â* Bottom line is that it's still going strong, starts
right up in a split second, does not smoke, and uses almost no oil -
about as well as you could expect for a hard working piece of
machinery of that age.Â* On average it burns about 1/2 gallon per hour.
I'd estimate maintenance costs at about $1 per hour, maybe a little
less.

It has served us very well in the past week with our hurricane related
power failures, powering the entire house when needed, including the
central air conditioning, electric hot water and electric stove.

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Now you did it.Â* Harry's now going to tell us that his propane fueled
Generac that runs for 10 minutes every Saturday is *much* *MUCH* superior.



My generator is designed to fill in for power outages that range from a
few hours to a few days or a week or so. I'd have to look it up, but I
think the Generac burns about two gallons of propane gas per hour at
near full-load, but don't quote me on that.


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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:04:01 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:42:43 -0400, Harree Putz, aka, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/14/17 10:35 PM, wrote:
Has anyone heard from Greg recently?

He seems to be missing in action.

---
Hope he is well and doing well. Without Fretwell, there's little in here
besides right-wing assholes, like...you.



===

Harree Putz, how do u do...

If you think I'm right wing you've never met the real thing.

FYI, you once expressed an interest in the longevity and operating
costs of diesel generators on larger boats. We installed our 20KW
Kohler in the fall of 2004, shortly after we bought the boat. So it's
now 13 years old and has about 5800 hours of operating time. That's
roughly comparable to a car with 300,000 miles on it. The generator
has not been maintenance free, but has never required a
tear-down/re-build, mostly little things like sensors and hoses, but
also an exhaust elbow, a couple of new starter motors, and several
raw water pumps. Bottom line is that it's still going strong, starts
right up in a split second, does not smoke, and uses almost no oil -
about as well as you could expect for a hard working piece of
machinery of that age. On average it burns about 1/2 gallon per hour.
I'd estimate maintenance costs at about $1 per hour, maybe a little
less.

It has served us very well in the past week with our hurricane related
power failures, powering the entire house when needed, including the
central air conditioning, electric hot water and electric stove.



Haree has a little generator to power his cpap machine and his
food chillers. I doubt it can handle central air.


===

Yes it does. Even our 20KW grunts a little when the A/C compressor
kicks in.

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On 9/15/17 9:40 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 09:33:25 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/15/2017 9:27 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:42:43 -0400, Harree Putz, aka, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/14/17 10:35 PM,
wrote:
Has anyone heard from Greg recently?

He seems to be missing in action.

---
Hope he is well and doing well. Without Fretwell, there's little in here
besides right-wing assholes, like...you.



===

Harree Putz, how do u do...

If you think I'm right wing you've never met the real thing.

FYI, you once expressed an interest in the longevity and operating
costs of diesel generators on larger boats. We installed our 20KW
Kohler in the fall of 2004, shortly after we bought the boat. So it's
now 13 years old and has about 5800 hours of operating time. That's
roughly comparable to a car with 300,000 miles on it. The generator
has not been maintenance free, but has never required a
tear-down/re-build, mostly little things like sensors and hoses, but
also an exhaust elbow, a couple of new starter motors, and several
raw water pumps. Bottom line is that it's still going strong, starts
right up in a split second, does not smoke, and uses almost no oil -
about as well as you could expect for a hard working piece of
machinery of that age. On average it burns about 1/2 gallon per hour.
I'd estimate maintenance costs at about $1 per hour, maybe a little
less.

It has served us very well in the past week with our hurricane related
power failures, powering the entire house when needed, including the
central air conditioning, electric hot water and electric stove.




Now you did it. Harry's now going to tell us that his propane fueled
Generac that runs for 10 minutes every Saturday is *much* *MUCH* superior.


===

For his purposes it might very well be. On a boat, not so much.

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You have what I am guessing is a heavy duty generator designed to run
continuously. Ours is not, at least not for long periods of time, though
I don't know what the duty cycle is. The one time so far when I've had
to have it running for days, I kept the load light, meaning I only ran
the heat pump air conditioning a few hours a day. Everything
else...lights, refrigerators, well pump, microwaves, et cetera, add up
to a pretty light load. Interestingly, its output is 17KW, not much less
than the one on your boat. It's air-cooled and sounds like a
gasoline-fueled lawnmower when running.
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On 9/15/17 10:19 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:04:01 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:42:43 -0400, Harree Putz, aka, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/14/17 10:35 PM,
wrote:
Has anyone heard from Greg recently?

He seems to be missing in action.

---
Hope he is well and doing well. Without Fretwell, there's little in here
besides right-wing assholes, like...you.



===

Harree Putz, how do u do...

If you think I'm right wing you've never met the real thing.

FYI, you once expressed an interest in the longevity and operating
costs of diesel generators on larger boats. We installed our 20KW
Kohler in the fall of 2004, shortly after we bought the boat. So it's
now 13 years old and has about 5800 hours of operating time. That's
roughly comparable to a car with 300,000 miles on it. The generator
has not been maintenance free, but has never required a
tear-down/re-build, mostly little things like sensors and hoses, but
also an exhaust elbow, a couple of new starter motors, and several
raw water pumps. Bottom line is that it's still going strong, starts
right up in a split second, does not smoke, and uses almost no oil -
about as well as you could expect for a hard working piece of
machinery of that age. On average it burns about 1/2 gallon per hour.
I'd estimate maintenance costs at about $1 per hour, maybe a little
less.

It has served us very well in the past week with our hurricane related
power failures, powering the entire house when needed, including the
central air conditioning, electric hot water and electric stove.



Haree has a little generator to power his cpap machine and his
food chillers. I doubt it can handle central air.


===

Yes it does. Even our 20KW grunts a little when the A/C compressor
kicks in.

---


Our genny handles our larger heat pump, the one that cools and heats two
of our three levels, but the third floor has a separate heat pump. If
the power is out and it is hot out, we just sleep on the cooler lower
levels. Heat is less of an issue, since the lower level unit runs off of
gas and only uses electricity to run the circulating fan.

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