We're back home today after hiding out on the east coast for the
storm. Things are mostly OK meaning no really serious damage, but
quite a few little things. Still no power but I'm running the house
from the generator on the boat which gives us lights and air
conditioning as long as that holds out.

Pool cage frame is OK but screen panels are totaled. Found a couple
of roof shingles on the ground but not yet sure where they came from -
no obvious leaks yet.

We made it over to the east coast and back in my truck on only one
tank of gas. I had a couple of jerrry jugs in back but didn't need
them. We only saw two filling stations open today while coming across
the state and both had huge lines. Power is mostly off on both coasts
with police directing traffic at busy intersections. Otherwise people
are treating intersections as 4 way stops which seems to be working
out OK for the most part.

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:51:37 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

We're back home today after hiding out on the east coast for the
storm. Things are mostly OK meaning no really serious damage, but
quite a few little things. Still no power but I'm running the house
from the generator on the boat which gives us lights and air
conditioning as long as that holds out.

Pool cage frame is OK but screen panels are totaled. Found a couple
of roof shingles on the ground but not yet sure where they came from -
no obvious leaks yet.

We made it over to the east coast and back in my truck on only one
tank of gas. I had a couple of jerrry jugs in back but didn't need
them. We only saw two filling stations open today while coming across
the state and both had huge lines. Power is mostly off on both coasts
with police directing traffic at busy intersections. Otherwise people
are treating intersections as 4 way stops which seems to be working
out OK for the most part.

Good to hear, Wayne. My daughter in Savannah came out OK also. The community dock washed away, but
their house was undamaged.

Whew!

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:51:37 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We're back home today after hiding out on the east coast for the
storm. Things are mostly OK meaning no really serious damage, but
quite a few little things. Still no power but I'm running the house
from the generator on the boat which gives us lights and air
conditioning as long as that holds out.

Pool cage frame is OK but screen panels are totaled. Found a couple
of roof shingles on the ground but not yet sure where they came from -
no obvious leaks yet.

We made it over to the east coast and back in my truck on only one
tank of gas. I had a couple of jerrry jugs in back but didn't need
them. We only saw two filling stations open today while coming across
the state and both had huge lines. Power is mostly off on both coasts
with police directing traffic at busy intersections. Otherwise people
are treating intersections as 4 way stops which seems to be working
out OK for the most part.

===

Follow up: We got power back about 6:00PM along with telephone
service and high speed internet. I was expecting to be without power
for as long as a week based on our experience with Charlie in 2004.

On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:48:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:51:37 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We're back home today after hiding out on the east coast for the
storm. Things are mostly OK meaning no really serious damage, but
quite a few little things. Still no power but I'm running the house
from the generator on the boat which gives us lights and air
conditioning as long as that holds out.

Pool cage frame is OK but screen panels are totaled. Found a couple
of roof shingles on the ground but not yet sure where they came from -
no obvious leaks yet.

We made it over to the east coast and back in my truck on only one
tank of gas. I had a couple of jerrry jugs in back but didn't need
them. We only saw two filling stations open today while coming across
the state and both had huge lines. Power is mostly off on both coasts
with police directing traffic at busy intersections. Otherwise people
are treating intersections as 4 way stops which seems to be working
out OK for the most part.

===

Follow up: We got power back about 6:00PM along with telephone
service and high speed internet. I was expecting to be without power
for as long as a week based on our experience with Charlie in 2004.

Hope you hug a power man today!

On 9/12/2017 10:48 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:51:37 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We're back home today after hiding out on the east coast for the
storm. Things are mostly OK meaning no really serious damage, but
quite a few little things. Still no power but I'm running the house
from the generator on the boat which gives us lights and air
conditioning as long as that holds out.

Pool cage frame is OK but screen panels are totaled. Found a couple
of roof shingles on the ground but not yet sure where they came from -
no obvious leaks yet.

We made it over to the east coast and back in my truck on only one
tank of gas. I had a couple of jerrry jugs in back but didn't need
them. We only saw two filling stations open today while coming across
the state and both had huge lines. Power is mostly off on both coasts
with police directing traffic at busy intersections. Otherwise people
are treating intersections as 4 way stops which seems to be working
out OK for the most part.

===

Follow up: We got power back about 6:00PM along with telephone
service and high speed internet. I was expecting to be without power
for as long as a week based on our experience with Charlie in 2004.


Based on what I've seen reported, the power companies, state, federal
and local governments did a super job in preparation for this hurricane
even before it's final path was known. Trucks and linesmen from almost
every other state plus some from Canada were sent in advance and staged
throughout Florida in order to restore power as quickly as possible
after Irma passed through. After Wilma in 2005 the Jupiter area was
without power for a week but it was tolerable because it was in November
and the need for constant air conditioning was not as critical.

My friend Rick who worked with me at the guitar shop is now working for
a local home heating oil company up here in Massachusetts. It's not a
big company ... family owned ... but yesterday they loaded diesel fuel
into three of their delivery trucks and are on their way to Florida to
deliver fuel for any hospitals or facilities still running on
generators. Good stuff.

BTW, not to get political but Trump, his administration and FEMA are
getting high scores for their response to this storm. I had to laugh a
little watching Rachel Maddow (briefly) the other evening interviewing
the Governor of the US Virgin Islands. It was obvious that Rachel's
questions were a prelude to criticism by her of Trump but it backfired.
He described the storm damage but then gave Trump high praise and thanks
for his responsiveness to phone calls and for the immediate federal help
(mostly Navy) that Trump authorized. You could tell by the expression
on her face that this is not what Rachel wanted to hear. :-)

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/12/2017 10:48 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:51:37 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We're back home today after hiding out on the east coast for the
storm. Things are mostly OK meaning no really serious damage, but
quite a few little things. Still no power but I'm running the house
from the generator on the boat which gives us lights and air
conditioning as long as that holds out.

Pool cage frame is OK but screen panels are totaled. Found a couple
of roof shingles on the ground but not yet sure where they came from -
no obvious leaks yet.

We made it over to the east coast and back in my truck on only one
tank of gas. I had a couple of jerrry jugs in back but didn't need
them. We only saw two filling stations open today while coming across
the state and both had huge lines. Power is mostly off on both coasts
with police directing traffic at busy intersections. Otherwise people
are treating intersections as 4 way stops which seems to be working
out OK for the most part.

===

Follow up: We got power back about 6:00PM along with telephone
service and high speed internet. I was expecting to be without power
for as long as a week based on our experience with Charlie in 2004.


Based on what I've seen reported, the power companies, state, federal
and local governments did a super job in preparation for this hurricane
even before it's final path was known. Trucks and linesmen from almost
every other state plus some from Canada were sent in advance and staged
throughout Florida in order to restore power as quickly as possible
after Irma passed through. After Wilma in 2005 the Jupiter area was
without power for a week but it was tolerable because it was in November
and the need for constant air conditioning was not as critical.

My friend Rick who worked with me at the guitar shop is now working for
a local home heating oil company up here in Massachusetts. It's not a
big company ... family owned ... but yesterday they loaded diesel fuel
into three of their delivery trucks and are on their way to Florida to
deliver fuel for any hospitals or facilities still running on
generators. Good stuff.

BTW, not to get political but Trump, his administration and FEMA are
getting high scores for their response to this storm. I had to laugh a
little watching Rachel Maddow (briefly) the other evening interviewing
the Governor of the US Virgin Islands. It was obvious that Rachel's
questions were a prelude to criticism by her of Trump but it backfired.
He described the storm damage but then gave Trump high praise and thanks
for his responsiveness to phone calls and for the immediate federal help
(mostly Navy) that Trump authorized. You could tell by the expression
on her face that this is not what Rachel wanted to hear. :-)


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster. Many states and the federal
government responded to his requests for assistannce and
resources were standing by on site ready to go to work as soon as
the storm passed.

I have 1 loose shingle to fix and some vegitation damage. We did
very well. Only the cable tv went out. Around the neighborhood
several oak trees were up rooted and a few newly planted palms
were on their side.
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:58:12 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 9/12/2017 10:48 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:51:37 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We're back home today after hiding out on the east coast for the
storm. Things are mostly OK meaning no really serious damage, but
quite a few little things. Still no power but I'm running the house
from the generator on the boat which gives us lights and air
conditioning as long as that holds out.

Pool cage frame is OK but screen panels are totaled. Found a couple
of roof shingles on the ground but not yet sure where they came from -
no obvious leaks yet.

We made it over to the east coast and back in my truck on only one
tank of gas. I had a couple of jerrry jugs in back but didn't need
them. We only saw two filling stations open today while coming across
the state and both had huge lines. Power is mostly off on both coasts
with police directing traffic at busy intersections. Otherwise people
are treating intersections as 4 way stops which seems to be working
out OK for the most part.

===

Follow up: We got power back about 6:00PM along with telephone
service and high speed internet. I was expecting to be without power
for as long as a week based on our experience with Charlie in 2004.


Based on what I've seen reported, the power companies, state, federal
and local governments did a super job in preparation for this hurricane
even before it's final path was known. Trucks and linesmen from almost
every other state plus some from Canada were sent in advance and staged
throughout Florida in order to restore power as quickly as possible
after Irma passed through. After Wilma in 2005 the Jupiter area was
without power for a week but it was tolerable because it was in November
and the need for constant air conditioning was not as critical.

My friend Rick who worked with me at the guitar shop is now working for
a local home heating oil company up here in Massachusetts. It's not a
big company ... family owned ... but yesterday they loaded diesel fuel
into three of their delivery trucks and are on their way to Florida to
deliver fuel for any hospitals or facilities still running on
generators. Good stuff.

BTW, not to get political but Trump, his administration and FEMA are
getting high scores for their response to this storm. I had to laugh a
little watching Rachel Maddow (briefly) the other evening interviewing
the Governor of the US Virgin Islands. It was obvious that Rachel's
questions were a prelude to criticism by her of Trump but it backfired.
He described the storm damage but then gave Trump high praise and thanks
for his responsiveness to phone calls and for the immediate federal help
(mostly Navy) that Trump authorized. You could tell by the expression
on her face that this is not what Rachel wanted to hear. :-)


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster. Many states and the federal
government responded to his requests for assistannce and
resources were standing by on site ready to go to work as soon as
the storm passed.

I have 1 loose shingle to fix and some vegitation damage. We did
very well. Only the cable tv went out. Around the neighborhood
several oak trees were up rooted and a few newly planted palms
were on their side.

Good to hear.

On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in low-lying
coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing down
susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes, and
slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and again
and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and everyone is
going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe. Why
construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level here.
If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.

On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
* prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in low-lying
coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing down
susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes, and
slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and again
and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and everyone is
going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe. Why
construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level here.
If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do some
serious damage to your famous red barn.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:22:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in low-lying
coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing down
susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes, and
slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and again
and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and everyone is
going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe. Why
construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level here.
If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.

Florida does have strict rules about rebuilding after a flood or
really any renovation for any reason that involves more that 50% of
the assessed value of the building (not the lot).
It all has to be done at the FEMA height. (14' above the datum plane
near water)
That pretty much eliminates most additions or even serious repairs
without raising the house or tearing it down. A guy in our
neighborhood just bough a $460k house and immediately tore it down,
just because of insurance cost and limits on remodeling.