Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:31:00 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But the
homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks before it
flooded.


You never owned waterfront property?


If only you had a brain...


Sore spot?

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On 9/13/2017 11:07 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 9:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 9:30 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
* prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran
prior to being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7
billion fine for Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about
Florida, he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop
development in low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of
condemning and tearing down susceptible structures in those
areas, outlawing mobile homes, and slowing growth generally.
Florida is going to get hit again and again and again by these
large summer and fall hurricanes, and everyone is going to pace
the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called
Chesapeake Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages
and a growing amount of new construction. Nice place, except when
Chesapeake Bay overflows and floods homes and businesses for four
blocks up from the high water line. That area is a foot or two
above sea level. Maybe. Why construction in these places is
allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped
and replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states
that want it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay
the price for their folly of never-ending construction along
low-lying waterfronts, typically built on "reclaimed" land.
Alternately, if the states won't provide flood insurance and
mortage companies won't finance homes without flood insurance,
well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea
level here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would
do some serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from
Florida to Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane
winds up here would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some
large trees that if uprooted could certainly smash through the
roof. We've had a few storms with high winds...70-90 mph...but so
far our big trees have survived. I've had a few cut down over the
years, but we still have a few that make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states
should be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood
insurance. Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height
of arrogance and stupidity.

Well, this is a rare occasion where I agree with you.* Not sure I'd
go as far as prohibiting development of privately held land in those
areas but it should be solely at the owner's risk with no state or
federal aid available to rebuild following a hurricane.* Next comes
the question of the use of state or federal rescue resources should
a resident find him/herself trapped after being warned to evacuate.
Is the progressive-liberal mentality ready to just let them die?


Death panels seem to be a child of the GOP majority in Congress. :)

No, I think rescues should be attempted when possible. But I don't
think first responders should be sent out and risk their lives in the
height of a dangerous storm to save those too stupid to save
themselves after clear and repeated warnings were given.

Your constant slams on "progressive-liberal" are as funny as your
support of Trump, and are just as foolish. Just about every bit of
social progress this country has made is the result of actions by
progressive liberals who were fought every step of the way by you
conservative regressives.


Read up on where and how the "progressive" movement originated.
Hasn't changed much since it's inception.



Yes, Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson were progressives.


Nice try, but no, they were not.

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On 9/13/2017 11:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
** prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my
comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do
some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
* You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But the
homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks before it
flooded.


You believe in the "Ark" story? Wow.

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:08:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/13/2017 11:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
** prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my
comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do
some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
* You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But the
homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks before it
flooded.


You believe in the "Ark" story? Wow.


'His' Maryland Red barn is on higher ground. He'd most likely head there. Probably coop up with his
owls.

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

John H Wrote in message:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:31:00 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But the
homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks before it
flooded.


You never owned waterfront property?


If only you had a brain...


Sore spot?


Remember him complaining of jet skis buzzing his property?
--
x


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Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On 9/13/17 2:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 11:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
** prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about
Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and
tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my
comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that
want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the
problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do
some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance
and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
* You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But
the homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks
before it flooded.


You believe in the "Ark" story?* Wow.




As a figure of speech. As an historical "fact," of course not. Oh,
Biblical conflicts. Adam and Eve had three kids, Cain, Abel and Seth.
See a problem with that? Was that really "corrected" later in Genesis?
And did Cain really marry his sister? What a laugh.

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On 9/13/17 2:14 PM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:31:00 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But the
homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks before it
flooded.


You never owned waterfront property?


If only you had a brain...


Sore spot?


Remember him complaining of jet skis buzzing his property?


That's right, they did run up and down the ICW near us. But the real
"annoyers" were the several airboats. Our current "waterfront" property
isn't plagued with either...just canoes, kayaks, and once in a great
while a small electric outboard boat, but only when the water on the
river is high. Too many boulders in the river near our spot.

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:35:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/13/17 2:14 PM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:31:00 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But the
homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks before it
flooded.


You never owned waterfront property?


If only you had a brain...


Sore spot?


Remember him complaining of jet skis buzzing his property?


That's right, they did run up and down the ICW near us. But the real
"annoyers" were the several airboats. Our current "waterfront" property
isn't plagued with either...just canoes, kayaks, and once in a great
while a small electric outboard boat, but only when the water on the
river is high. Too many boulders in the river near our spot.

He needs to back out of this discussion before he sees his boo-boo.

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:30:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/13/17 2:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 11:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 11:37 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
** prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about
Florida,
he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development in
low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and
tearing
down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile homes,
and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit again and
again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes, and
everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my
comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that
want
it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the price for
their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying waterfronts,
typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the states won't
provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't finance homes
without flood insurance, well, that eventually will solve the
problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do
some
serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance
and
stupidity.


Since you no longer own waterfront property, no one should. Eh?
* You' ll never change.
x


Your assumption about waterfront property is, of course, wrong. But
the homesite is so high above the water level, we'd all be in arks
before it flooded.


You believe in the "Ark" story?* Wow.




As a figure of speech. As an historical "fact," of course not. Oh,
Biblical conflicts. Adam and Eve had three kids, Cain, Abel and Seth.
See a problem with that? Was that really "corrected" later in Genesis?
And did Cain really marry his sister? What a laugh.

On a daily basis folks say "What a laugh!" about the crap you write. And you're supposed to be a
professional.

Hurricane Irma - After Action Report
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
Â* prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran prior to
being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7 billion fine for
Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about
Florida, he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop development
in low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of condemning and
tearing down susceptible structures in those areas, outlawing mobile
homes, and slowing growth generally. Florida is going to get hit
again and again and again by these large summer and fall hurricanes,
and everyone is going to pace the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called Chesapeake
Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages and a growing
amount of new construction. Nice place, except when Chesapeake Bay
overflows and floods homes and businesses for four blocks up from the
high water line. That area is a foot or two above sea level. Maybe.
Why construction in these places is allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped and
replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states that
want it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay the
price for their folly of never-ending construction along low-lying
waterfronts, typically built on "reclaimed" land. Alternately, if the
states won't provide flood insurance and mortage companies won't
finance homes without flood insurance, well, that eventually will
solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea level
here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would do
some serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from Florida to
Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds up here
would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some large trees that if
uprooted could certainly smash through the roof. We've had a few storms
with high winds...70-90 mph...but so far our big trees have survived.
I've had a few cut down over the years, but we still have a few that
make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states should
be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood insurance.
Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height of arrogance and
stupidity.

Well, this is a rare occasion where I agree with you. Not sure I'd go
as far as prohibiting development of privately held land in those areas
but it should be solely at the owner's risk with no state or federal aid
available to rebuild following a hurricane. Next comes the question of
the use of state or federal rescue resources should a resident find
him/herself trapped after being warned to evacuate. Is the
progressive-liberal mentality ready to just let them die?





The Russian River here in California flooded nearly yearly. Finally, the
state and Fed's said, no more insurance. I think also happened on places
on the Mississippi. Or make it like Earthquake Insurance. 25% deductible,
and high costs to buy it. I have been though a 5.8 about 5 miles from the
house, and the Loma Prieta quake. The 5.8 racked the pool, $5200 to fix.
No insurance. My house is about as far as you can get from a fault line in
the Bay Area. About 3 miles. But I am on mostly rock. So my bet is no
insurance. I can rebuild the house for a couple hundred K. Land is not
going to lose value.