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More true than we want to believe.
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More true than we want to believe.
On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66 from the onion Your vacation photos? For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent retirement, even with Social Security. |
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More true than we want to believe.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:36:39 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66 from the onion Your vacation photos? For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent retirement, even with Social Security. Do you think you deserve to rise from the lower middle class? Does being a great liar qualify you for same? |
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More true than we want to believe.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:36:39 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66 from the onion Your vacation photos? For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent retirement, even with Social Security. Too bad it is a huge Ponzi scam that is going to blow up in less than a decade. Both SS and MC are upside down and there does not seem to be any plan from either side to bail it out. The "trust fund" is a fantasy and we can't even pay back the debt we are incurring today. That trust fund is just another line item on the debt. The fix had to happen in the 50s and 60s and it would have involved changing the retirement age to something more closely related to life expectancy. Before you say it, yes I am the best example of that mistake by our government. If I don't get hit by a bus or some other unseen calamity, I will be retired longer than I worked. It wasn't my idea. It was all just part of that Clinton prosperity we keep hearing about. (AKA creative bookkeeping) BTW most workers of the first cohort of the boomer generation are doing just fine with their corporate pensions. It was during the Clinton administration when the defined pension plan started disappearing. Even so most are vested in some defined benefits. Ah prosperity! |
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#7
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More true than we want to believe.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:48:16 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:36:39 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66 from the onion Your vacation photos? For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent retirement, even with Social Security. Too bad it is a huge Ponzi scam that is going to blow up in less than a decade. Both SS and MC are upside down and there does not seem to be any plan from either side to bail it out. The "trust fund" is a fantasy and we can't even pay back the debt we are incurring today. That trust fund is just another line item on the debt. The fix had to happen in the 50s and 60s and it would have involved changing the retirement age to something more closely related to life expectancy. Before you say it, yes I am the best example of that mistake by our government. If I don't get hit by a bus or some other unseen calamity, I will be retired longer than I worked. It wasn't my idea. It was all just part of that Clinton prosperity we keep hearing about. (AKA creative bookkeeping) BTW most workers of the first cohort of the boomer generation are doing just fine with their corporate pensions. It was during the Clinton administration when the defined pension plan started disappearing. Even so most are vested in some defined benefits. Ah prosperity! Don't worry about it. When SS "blows up" they'll just put asset and income limitations on those who are allowed to draw it. That will help but if SS is your only income (on paper) there will still be more people collecting than the number of workers can support. MC will be taken care of by single payer. No problem. Medicare is already (government) single payer, that has been broke for almost a decade and that is only paying part of the actual cost. (Part A). We pay extra for parts, B, C and D If you want to compare the efficiency of the government compared to private insurers, look at the Advantage plans. For what the government allocates for Part A and what we kick in for part B, I can get parts A, B, C & D for no additional money. Then you'll have much more than Bill Clinton to whine about. The people who are ****ed at me retiring at 49 should be mad at Clinton. It was his loosening of the pension rules that allowed it. They made a little administrative change in how the PBGC calculates risk that allowed companies to send people like me off the payroll and into the pension plan without coming up with any more funding. That is just one way they generated their phony prosperity (read:increased profits) |
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More true than we want to believe.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:16:11 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66 from the onion Your vacation photos? No, we vacation in the mountains ... on your money |
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#10
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More true than we want to believe.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:15:39 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:16:11 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66 from the onion Your vacation photos? No, we vacation in the mountains ... on your money Glad to be helping. Enjoy. For the record, I appreciate spending your earnings also. |
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