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[email protected] August 5th 17 05:13 PM

More true than we want to believe.
 
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Boating All Out August 5th 17 10:16 PM

More true than we want to believe.
 
In article , says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

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Your vacation photos?

Keyser Soze August 5th 17 10:36 PM

More true than we want to believe.
 
On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion


Your vacation photos?


For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions
by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for
the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get
into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent
retirement, even with Social Security.

[email protected] August 5th 17 10:37 PM

More true than we want to believe.
 
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:16:11 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article , says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion


Your vacation photos?


No, we vacation in the mountains ... on your money

John H[_2_] August 5th 17 11:01 PM

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On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:36:39 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion


Your vacation photos?


For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions
by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for
the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get
into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent
retirement, even with Social Security.


Do you think you deserve to rise from the lower middle class? Does being a great liar qualify you
for same?

Boating All Out August 5th 17 11:15 PM

More true than we want to believe.
 
In article , says...

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:16:11 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion


Your vacation photos?


No, we vacation in the mountains ... on your money


Glad to be helping. Enjoy.

John H[_2_] August 5th 17 11:29 PM

More true than we want to believe.
 
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:15:39 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:16:11 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion

Your vacation photos?


No, we vacation in the mountains ... on your money


Glad to be helping. Enjoy.


For the record, I appreciate spending your earnings also.

[email protected] August 5th 17 11:49 PM

More true than we want to believe.
 
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:36:39 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion


Your vacation photos?


For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions
by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for
the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get
into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent
retirement, even with Social Security.


Too bad it is a huge Ponzi scam that is going to blow up in less than
a decade. Both SS and MC are upside down and there does not seem to be
any plan from either side to bail it out. The "trust fund" is a
fantasy and we can't even pay back the debt we are incurring today.
That trust fund is just another line item on the debt. The fix had to
happen in the 50s and 60s and it would have involved changing the
retirement age to something more closely related to life expectancy.
Before you say it, yes I am the best example of that mistake by our
government. If I don't get hit by a bus or some other unseen calamity,
I will be retired longer than I worked. It wasn't my idea. It was all
just part of that Clinton prosperity we keep hearing about. (AKA
creative bookkeeping)

BTW most workers of the first cohort of the boomer generation are
doing just fine with their corporate pensions. It was during the
Clinton administration when the defined pension plan started
disappearing. Even so most are vested in some defined benefits.
Ah prosperity!

[email protected] August 6th 17 12:29 AM

More true than we want to believe.
 
On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 18:29:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:15:39 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:16:11 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion

Your vacation photos?

No, we vacation in the mountains ... on your money


Glad to be helping. Enjoy.


For the record, I appreciate spending your earnings also.


Hey they made us do it.
I am sort of curious what would have happened to my money if I had put
all of my FICA into IBM stock (or even a decent fund). Some day, if I
get bored I may load it into excel and see. The spreadsheet for the
stock already exists on the shareholder site. I just need to enter my
SS payments from the statements I have.
My basis, even on shares I bought in the 90s, is less than $10. I
would have been buying them since 66.
Just based on the basis calculations I have done on the shares I have
I believe it would be in the millions.
I will be lucky to get a half million out of SS. (I will be over 85
when that happens)

Boating All Out August 6th 17 12:48 AM

More true than we want to believe.
 
In article , says...

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:36:39 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/5/17 5:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

http://tinyurl.com/ydxb8j66

from the onion

Your vacation photos?


For millions of American workers who were screwed out of their pensions
by corporate creed, Social Security is all they will have left, and for
the tens of millions of American workers who will never be able to get
into the middle class or rise from it, there's little hope for a decent
retirement, even with Social Security.


Too bad it is a huge Ponzi scam that is going to blow up in less than
a decade. Both SS and MC are upside down and there does not seem to be
any plan from either side to bail it out. The "trust fund" is a
fantasy and we can't even pay back the debt we are incurring today.
That trust fund is just another line item on the debt. The fix had to
happen in the 50s and 60s and it would have involved changing the
retirement age to something more closely related to life expectancy.
Before you say it, yes I am the best example of that mistake by our
government. If I don't get hit by a bus or some other unseen calamity,
I will be retired longer than I worked. It wasn't my idea. It was all
just part of that Clinton prosperity we keep hearing about. (AKA
creative bookkeeping)

BTW most workers of the first cohort of the boomer generation are
doing just fine with their corporate pensions. It was during the
Clinton administration when the defined pension plan started
disappearing. Even so most are vested in some defined benefits.
Ah prosperity!


Don't worry about it. When SS "blows up" they'll just put asset and income limitations
on those who are allowed to draw it. MC will be taken care of by single payer.
No problem.
Then you'll have much more than Bill Clinton to whine about.


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