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On 8/7/17 8:33 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/5/17 9:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:48:16 -0500, Boating All Out
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Don't worry about it. When SS "blows up" they'll just put asset
and income limitations
on those who are allowed to draw it.

That will help but if SS is your only income (on paper) there will
still be more people collecting than the number of workers can
support.


They say that current SS contributions will pay for 70% of payments.
They can always reduce SS maximum payments. Or across the board cuts.
Not a problem.
MC will be taken care of by single payer.
No problem.
Medicare is already (government) single payer, that has been broke for
almost a decade and that is only paying part of the actual cost. (Part
A). We pay extra for parts, B, C and D
If you want to compare the efficiency of the government compared to
private insurers, look at the Advantage plans. For what the government
allocates for Part A and what we kick in for part B, I can get parts
A, B, C & D for no additional money.


Single payer should absorb Medicare. No more Medicare.
Advantage is a poor man's substitute for supplementals.
Look at your deductibles. It stops working when you have some major
health events.
Then you'll have much more than Bill Clinton to whine about.

The people who are ****ed at me retiring at 49 should be mad at
Clinton. It was his loosening of the pension rules that allowed it.
They made a little administrative change in how the PBGC calculates
risk that allowed companies to send people like me off the payroll and
into the pension plan without coming up with any more funding.
That is just one way they generated their phony prosperity
(read:increased profits)

Who's ****ed at you retiring at 49? Maybe ****ed at you whining
about it.
I retired at 57 and nobody has peeped about it.


I have a friend who worked for Sikorsky who became eligible for what I
guess was a generous early retirement package five years ago, but his
employer "made him an offer he couldn't refuse" to stay on his job, so
he stayed and just actually retired this past spring. Now, he's
"consulting" with a couple of the customers of his old employer. I
guess if you are in a technical field and have skills that are hard to
replace, you never really retire unless you really want to retire.

"I was retired for a week," he told me in June, "but having nothing
real to do except make-work and hobbies and golf and fishing seemed
too boring."

Yup.


More proof your boat is another BS story. If you actually owned one,
that would be a reason to retire.


Owning a boat means you're retired? Really? Do you own a boat? Are you
retired?
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 21:34:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/7/17 8:33 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/5/17 9:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:48:16 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:


Don't worry about it. When SS "blows up" they'll just put asset
and income limitations
on those who are allowed to draw it.

That will help but if SS is your only income (on paper) there will
still be more people collecting than the number of workers can
support.


They say that current SS contributions will pay for 70% of payments.
They can always reduce SS maximum payments. Or across the board cuts.
Not a problem.
MC will be taken care of by single payer.
No problem.
Medicare is already (government) single payer, that has been broke for
almost a decade and that is only paying part of the actual cost. (Part
A). We pay extra for parts, B, C and D
If you want to compare the efficiency of the government compared to
private insurers, look at the Advantage plans. For what the government
allocates for Part A and what we kick in for part B, I can get parts
A, B, C & D for no additional money.


Single payer should absorb Medicare. No more Medicare.
Advantage is a poor man's substitute for supplementals.
Look at your deductibles. It stops working when you have some major
health events.
Then you'll have much more than Bill Clinton to whine about.

The people who are ****ed at me retiring at 49 should be mad at
Clinton. It was his loosening of the pension rules that allowed it.
They made a little administrative change in how the PBGC calculates
risk that allowed companies to send people like me off the payroll and
into the pension plan without coming up with any more funding.
That is just one way they generated their phony prosperity
(read:increased profits)

Who's ****ed at you retiring at 49? Maybe ****ed at you whining
about it.
I retired at 57 and nobody has peeped about it.


I have a friend who worked for Sikorsky who became eligible for what I
guess was a generous early retirement package five years ago, but his
employer "made him an offer he couldn't refuse" to stay on his job, so
he stayed and just actually retired this past spring. Now, he's
"consulting" with a couple of the customers of his old employer. I
guess if you are in a technical field and have skills that are hard to
replace, you never really retire unless you really want to retire.

"I was retired for a week," he told me in June, "but having nothing
real to do except make-work and hobbies and golf and fishing seemed
too boring."

Yup.


More proof your boat is another BS story. If you actually owned one,
that would be a reason to retire.


Owning a boat means you're retired? Really? Do you own a boat? Are you
retired?


Read for content.
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justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 8/7/17 8:33 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/5/17 9:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:48:16 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

Don't worry about it. When SS "blows up" they'll just put asset
and income limitations
on those who are allowed to draw it.
That will help but if SS is your only income (on paper) there will
still be more people collecting than the number of workers can
support.

They say that current SS contributions will pay for 70% of payments.
They can always reduce SS maximum payments. Or across the board cuts.
Not a problem.
MC will be taken care of by single payer.
No problem.
Medicare is already (government) single payer, that has been broke for
almost a decade and that is only paying part of the actual cost. (Part
A). We pay extra for parts, B, C and D
If you want to compare the efficiency of the government compared to
private insurers, look at the Advantage plans. For what the government
allocates for Part A and what we kick in for part B, I can get parts
A, B, C & D for no additional money.

Single payer should absorb Medicare. No more Medicare.
Advantage is a poor man's substitute for supplementals.
Look at your deductibles. It stops working when you have some major
health events.
Then you'll have much more than Bill Clinton to whine about.
The people who are ****ed at me retiring at 49 should be mad at
Clinton. It was his loosening of the pension rules that allowed it.
They made a little administrative change in how the PBGC calculates
risk that allowed companies to send people like me off the payroll and
into the pension plan without coming up with any more funding.
That is just one way they generated their phony prosperity
(read:increased profits)
Who's ****ed at you retiring at 49? Maybe ****ed at you whining
about it.
I retired at 57 and nobody has peeped about it.

I have a friend who worked for Sikorsky who became eligible for what I
guess was a generous early retirement package five years ago, but his
employer "made him an offer he couldn't refuse" to stay on his job, so
he stayed and just actually retired this past spring. Now, he's
"consulting" with a couple of the customers of his old employer. I
guess if you are in a technical field and have skills that are hard to
replace, you never really retire unless you really want to retire.

"I was retired for a week," he told me in June, "but having nothing
real to do except make-work and hobbies and golf and fishing seemed
too boring."

Yup.
More proof your boat is another BS story. If you actually owned one,
that would be a reason to retire.

Owning a boat means you're retired? Really? Do you own a boat? Are you
retired?

You get confused do easily, it's almost comical.


No kidding. He's losing it bigly.

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John H wrote:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 21:34:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/7/17 8:33 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/5/17 9:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:48:16 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

Don't worry about it. When SS "blows up" they'll just put asset
and income limitations
on those who are allowed to draw it.
That will help but if SS is your only income (on paper) there will
still be more people collecting than the number of workers can
support.

They say that current SS contributions will pay for 70% of payments.
They can always reduce SS maximum payments. Or across the board cuts.
Not a problem.
MC will be taken care of by single payer.
No problem.
Medicare is already (government) single payer, that has been broke for
almost a decade and that is only paying part of the actual cost. (Part
A). We pay extra for parts, B, C and D
If you want to compare the efficiency of the government compared to
private insurers, look at the Advantage plans. For what the government
allocates for Part A and what we kick in for part B, I can get parts
A, B, C & D for no additional money.

Single payer should absorb Medicare. No more Medicare.
Advantage is a poor man's substitute for supplementals.
Look at your deductibles. It stops working when you have some major
health events.
Then you'll have much more than Bill Clinton to whine about.
The people who are ****ed at me retiring at 49 should be mad at
Clinton. It was his loosening of the pension rules that allowed it.
They made a little administrative change in how the PBGC calculates
risk that allowed companies to send people like me off the payroll and
into the pension plan without coming up with any more funding.
That is just one way they generated their phony prosperity
(read:increased profits)
Who's ****ed at you retiring at 49? Maybe ****ed at you whining
about it.
I retired at 57 and nobody has peeped about it.

I have a friend who worked for Sikorsky who became eligible for what I
guess was a generous early retirement package five years ago, but his
employer "made him an offer he couldn't refuse" to stay on his job, so
he stayed and just actually retired this past spring. Now, he's
"consulting" with a couple of the customers of his old employer. I
guess if you are in a technical field and have skills that are hard to
replace, you never really retire unless you really want to retire.

"I was retired for a week," he told me in June, "but having nothing
real to do except make-work and hobbies and golf and fishing seemed
too boring."

Yup.
More proof your boat is another BS story. If you actually owned one,
that would be a reason to retire.

Owning a boat means you're retired? Really? Do you own a boat? Are you
retired?

Read for content.



It's likely a lame diversion. I was pretty clear so even Don could
understand the point.
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