On Wed, 31 May 2017 03:48:33 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 5:03:48 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2017 19:58:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:04:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
More than any other motorcycle thing that isn't a Harley. I guess all
of the Gold Wing, Guzzi, BMW people went for a Polaris trike.
Some are rentals but there seem to be a lot that are privately owned.
(tricked up paint and screw on doodads). They must have a very
aggressive dealer here. There are also at least 3 Harley shops nearby.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Mash%20stomp%20NC/trike.jpg

They sell well here in my locale, but I never saw much future in one for myself. If you want a motorcycle get one, if you want a convertible, get one. To me, these are like a For Ranchero or a Chevy El Camino. They weren't a good car and they weren't a good truck, but they looked cool...

They just don't look like they'd be fun to drive or easy to drive on a nice twisty. Seems like it
would be a lot like running a sidecar rig, always worrying about the inside tire coming off the
ground on a sharp curve.

I would like to spin around in a Guzzi powered Morgan kit car, though.At least it's a real head turner...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a688dcf505.jpg

Saw lots of those in Germany.

On Wed, 31 May 2017 09:30:45 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
We're starting to see more and more Bombardier Spyders here around the city.


Good to see you local boys are getting to see them. They are
selling like hotcakes in Florida.

Florida is full of old farts who can't ride a real motorcycle. Cushman
used to make a three-wheeler woth seating for two and two wheels up front.
Good Humor had three wheelers, too.

Gotta get negative, eh?

Tell us about that *real* Ducati!

On Wed, 31 May 2017 09:26:05 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

True North Wrote in message:
Mr. Luddite
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On 5/30/2017 9:04 PM, wrote:
More than any other motorcycle thing that isn't a Harley. I guess all
of the Gold Wing, Guzzi, BMW people went for a Polaris trike.
Some are rentals but there seem to be a lot that are privately owned.
(tricked up paint and screw on doodads). They must have a very
aggressive dealer here. There are also at least 3 Harley shops nearby.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Mash%20stomp%20NC/trike.jpg



"Mrs.E. suggested that we get one of those or a Can-Am "Spyder" so she
and I could tool around on it during the summer months. Can't see it.
All the equipment for motorcycles still apply (helmets, leathers, etc.).
If I wanted mosquitoes in my face I'd rather have a regular,
two-wheeled Harley. Or maybe a BMW touring bike."


Buy her the Spyder and get yourself something more fitting for a real biker.


What exactly is a real biker in your estimation?

To Harry Krause, it's probably someone who owns a 'virtual' Ducati.

On Wed, 31 May 2017 10:34:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 31 May 2017 06:03:48 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Tue, 30 May 2017 19:58:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:04:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
More than any other motorcycle thing that isn't a Harley. I guess all
of the Gold Wing, Guzzi, BMW people went for a Polaris trike.
Some are rentals but there seem to be a lot that are privately owned.
(tricked up paint and screw on doodads). They must have a very
aggressive dealer here. There are also at least 3 Harley shops nearby.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Mash%20stomp%20NC/trike.jpg

They sell well here in my locale, but I never saw much future in one for myself. If you want a motorcycle get one, if you want a convertible, get one. To me, these are like a For Ranchero or a Chevy El Camino. They weren't a good car and they weren't a good truck, but they looked cool...

They just don't look like they'd be fun to drive or easy to drive on a nice twisty. Seems like it
would be a lot like running a sidecar rig, always worrying about the inside tire coming off the
ground on a sharp curve.

These things do seem pretty stable. They were keeping up with me ;-)

I'm thinking it would be very dependent on the road. But, not having driven one, I could well be
wrong. It *seems* like a motorcycle would do better in the twisties.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/31/17 10:34 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2017 06:03:48 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Tue, 30 May 2017 19:58:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:04:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
More than any other motorcycle thing that isn't a Harley. I guess all
of the Gold Wing, Guzzi, BMW people went for a Polaris trike.
Some are rentals but there seem to be a lot that are privately owned.
(tricked up paint and screw on doodads). They must have a very
aggressive dealer here. There are also at least 3 Harley shops nearby.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Mash%20stomp%20NC/trike.jpg

They sell well here in my locale, but I never saw much future in one
for myself. If you want a motorcycle get one, if you want a
convertible, get one. To me, these are like a For Ranchero or a Chevy
El Camino. They weren't a good car and they weren't a good truck, but
they looked cool...

They just don't look like they'd be fun to drive or easy to drive on a
nice twisty. Seems like it
would be a lot like running a sidecar rig, always worrying about the
inside tire coming off the
ground on a sharp curve.

These things do seem pretty stable. They were keeping up with me ;-)


Decades and decades ago, I got a ride at Lime Rock race track in a Lotus
Super Seven. It was, to put it mildly, an exciting ride. Now, a more
modern version of that vehicle is made by Caterham Cars. The one I rode
in was much more "vintage" than this modern version, but the fun factor
was similar, I am su

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CRdQA7R9xs




The Lotus super seven, Elite and a couple,others were sold as kit cars in
England for years until the laws were changed. About 50% of the price in
England was Tax, and a kit car was exempted. I think there were 7 parts to
put together.

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 11:50:14 AM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2017 10:34:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 31 May 2017 06:03:48 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Tue, 30 May 2017 19:58:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:04:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
More than any other motorcycle thing that isn't a Harley. I guess all
of the Gold Wing, Guzzi, BMW people went for a Polaris trike.
Some are rentals but there seem to be a lot that are privately owned..
(tricked up paint and screw on doodads). They must have a very
aggressive dealer here. There are also at least 3 Harley shops nearby.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Mash%20stomp%20NC/trike.jpg

They sell well here in my locale, but I never saw much future in one for myself. If you want a motorcycle get one, if you want a convertible, get one. To me, these are like a For Ranchero or a Chevy El Camino. They weren't a good car and they weren't a good truck, but they looked cool...

They just don't look like they'd be fun to drive or easy to drive on a nice twisty. Seems like it
would be a lot like running a sidecar rig, always worrying about the inside tire coming off the
ground on a sharp curve.

These things do seem pretty stable. They were keeping up with me ;-)

I'm thinking it would be very dependent on the road. But, not having driven one, I could well be
wrong. It *seems* like a motorcycle would do better in the twisties.

You can actually carry more speed in turns in many sports cars than you can on a bike. Four tires give you more traction than two, and you get downforce.

Here's a fun video. Not your average car though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA

On Wed, 31 May 2017 11:14:39 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 11:50:14 AM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2017 10:34:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 31 May 2017 06:03:48 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Tue, 30 May 2017 19:58:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:04:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
More than any other motorcycle thing that isn't a Harley. I guess all
of the Gold Wing, Guzzi, BMW people went for a Polaris trike.
Some are rentals but there seem to be a lot that are privately owned.
(tricked up paint and screw on doodads). They must have a very
aggressive dealer here. There are also at least 3 Harley shops nearby.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Mash%20stomp%20NC/trike.jpg

They sell well here in my locale, but I never saw much future in one for myself. If you want a motorcycle get one, if you want a convertible, get one. To me, these are like a For Ranchero or a Chevy El Camino. They weren't a good car and they weren't a good truck, but they looked cool...

They just don't look like they'd be fun to drive or easy to drive on a nice twisty. Seems like it
would be a lot like running a sidecar rig, always worrying about the inside tire coming off the
ground on a sharp curve.

These things do seem pretty stable. They were keeping up with me ;-)

I'm thinking it would be very dependent on the road. But, not having driven one, I could well be
wrong. It *seems* like a motorcycle would do better in the twisties.

You can actually carry more speed in turns in many sports cars than you can on a bike. Four tires give you more traction than two, and you get downforce.

Here's a fun video. Not your average car though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA

That's not surprising. But, I see sidecar wheels coming up in the air with only the slightest
provocation. I'm wondering if the Spyder styles have the same characteristic.

On Wed, 31 May 2017 15:35:30 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:


That's not surprising. But, I see sidecar wheels coming up in the air with only the slightest
provocation. I'm wondering if the Spyder styles have the same characteristic.

The dynamics are completely different. To start with the 2 wheel axle
is in front and it is centered between the center of gravity. I think
if you did lift a wheel it would cause a violent yaw/understeer effect
but I am not sure. It might end up being a Porche/VW type trailing
oversteer once you try to correct. It would be fun to play with one on
a skid pad if you had a decent roll cage.
I am fairly impressed with this Hundai Santa Fe. I have been hitting
these twisties pretty aggressively and it has not really seemed
squirrelly to me yet.
Rent, buy the insurance and drive it like you stole it is my
philosophy ;-)

On Wed, 31 May 2017 23:00:10 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 31 May 2017 15:35:30 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:


That's not surprising. But, I see sidecar wheels coming up in the air with only the slightest
provocation. I'm wondering if the Spyder styles have the same characteristic.

The dynamics are completely different. To start with the 2 wheel axle
is in front and it is centered between the center of gravity. I think
if you did lift a wheel it would cause a violent yaw/understeer effect
but I am not sure. It might end up being a Porche/VW type trailing
oversteer once you try to correct. It would be fun to play with one on
a skid pad if you had a decent roll cage.
I am fairly impressed with this Hundai Santa Fe. I have been hitting
these twisties pretty aggressively and it has not really seemed
squirrelly to me yet.
Rent, buy the insurance and drive it like you stole it is my
philosophy ;-)

I've no idea what the dynamics are, although I'm sure they're different. But, until I ride one, that
would be my main concern about riding one in the twisties.