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Any tool, nut, bolt, or screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the
universe.

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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 8:45:53 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
Any tool, nut, bolt, or screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the
universe.

I put up with that daily. Another rule is that the smaller the item, the lesser the accessibility...

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 06:48:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 8:45:53 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
Any tool, nut, bolt, or screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the
universe.

I put up with that daily. Another rule is that the smaller the item, the lesser the accessibility...

It's why I keep my garage floors carpeted.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 06:48:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 8:45:53 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
Any tool, nut, bolt, or screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the
universe.

I put up with that daily. Another rule is that the smaller the item, the lesser the accessibility...

It's why I keep my garage floors carpeted.


I did one garage floor with epoxy and the little colored
sprinkles. It looks nice and adds traction but it's hard to see a
small object that has fallen. Decisions decisions for the next
floor.

I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce.

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On 4/29/2017 9:48 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 8:45:53 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
Any tool, nut, bolt, or screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the
universe.

I put up with that daily. Another rule is that the smaller the item, the lesser the accessibility...



They also become invisible.

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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 10:55:13 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/29/2017 9:48 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 8:45:53 AM UTC-5, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
Any tool, nut, bolt, or screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the
universe.

I put up with that daily. Another rule is that the smaller the item, the lesser the accessibility...



They also become invisible.

Why, yes. Yes they do...

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Poco Deplorevole
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -
I did one garage floor with epoxy and the little colored
sprinkles. It looks nice and adds traction but it's hard to see a
small object that has fallen. Decisions decisions for the next
floor.

"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


What the 'ell?
What namby pamby sissy would carpet a garage floor...especially in a light colour?
Answer.....someone who doesn't do any work in one!

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On 4/29/2017 12:56 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -
I did one garage floor with epoxy and the little colored
sprinkles. It looks nice and adds traction but it's hard to see a
small object that has fallen. Decisions decisions for the next
floor.

"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


What the 'ell?
What namby pamby sissy would carpet a garage floor...especially in a light colour?
Answer.....someone who doesn't do any work in one!

Makes a lot more sense than putting carpet over nice hardwood floors

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Make America great again. Yes we can.

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Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -


"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Poco Deplorevole
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -
I did one garage floor with epoxy and the little colored
sprinkles. It looks nice and adds traction but it's hard to see a
small object that has fallen. Decisions decisions for the next
floor.

"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


What the 'ell?
What namby pamby sissy would carpet a garage floor...especially in a light colour?
Answer.....someone who doesn't do any work in one!

I do all the work in both. Don't worry about oil stains or gas bleaches or any of that. Remember, I
have a 27-year-old motorcycle that has never seen a motorcycle shop. Who do you think does all the
work?

You are so fast to jump, and in doing so you end up looking like the fool you've become.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
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"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -


"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

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Poco Deplorevole
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
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"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? Â* Â*:-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

"Possibly not"


D'oh!
What if a fire started in that greasy carpet and caused considerable damage to your house?
Would your insurance company try to weasel out of paying up?

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Justine Giggles....

- show quoted text -
"Makes a lot more sense than putting carpet over nice hardwood floors"


Does your mama know you're peeking out from behind her skirt?

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:07:21 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Poco Deplorevole
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -


"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? * *:-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

"Possibly not"


D'oh!
What if a fire started in that greasy carpet and caused considerable damage to your house?
Would your insurance company try to weasel out of paying up?

A few oil drops does not equate to a 'greasy carpet'. Perhaps that's the way you work, but I keep
the area pretty neat.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:09:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Justine Giggles....

- show quoted text -
"Makes a lot more sense than putting carpet over nice hardwood floors"


Does your mama know you're peeking out from behind her skirt?

Does your mama know you act like a ****ing two-year-old?

Grow up a bit, Don.

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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 4:07:23 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
- hide quoted text -
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
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"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? Â* Â*:-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

"Possibly not"


D'oh!
What if a fire started in that greasy carpet and caused considerable damage to your house?
Would your insurance company try to weasel out of paying up?

Remember Donnee...you reap what you sow.

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On 4/29/2017 2:49 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -


"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.



It's not the carpet they might be concerned about.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:36:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/29/2017 2:49 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -


"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.



It's not the carpet they might be concerned about.

Oh, OK.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

The code pretty much gives up the garage., The fire wall is between
there and the house, particularly sleeping rooms. They can't share a
wall.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:49:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -


"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.

I do the same thing but I use rug scraps. A 5x5 berber scrap does a
great job and you can move it to where you are working. Nobody wants
to sit or lay on concrete in Florida.
I can pressure clean it and hang it out to dry.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

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JohnnyMop swishes his head...

- show quoted text -
"Remember Donnee...you reap what you sow."


WOW, JohnnyMop, I hope you're paying royalties to Wayne for using his line non stop.
Be careful not to wear it out...he may want it back someday.

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On 4/29/2017 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

The code pretty much gives up the garage., The fire wall is between
there and the house, particularly sleeping rooms. They can't share a
wall.



How about a garage ceiling that is just below the floor of a second
story bedroom?

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True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
- hide quoted text -
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -
"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."

Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)
No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.

I don't think you get what he's driving at.
"Possibly not"


D'oh!
What if a fire started in that greasy carpet and caused considerable damage to your house?
Would your insurance company try to weasel out of paying up?



It would have to be excluded in his HOI policy. It's black and white -
no weaseling involved.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:08:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/29/2017 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

The code pretty much gives up the garage., The fire wall is between
there and the house, particularly sleeping rooms. They can't share a
wall.



How about a garage ceiling that is just below the floor of a second
story bedroom?


It is required to be a 1 hr firewall and some places simply do not
allow it.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:42:24 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:49:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -


"I was taking the dogs for a walk and in front of a house by the street were three rolls of carpet -
untrimmed. I unrolled one and it was brand new. I quick got the truck and loaded two rolls into the
back. Had to trim them to fit the garage, but now I have a nice light beige carpet covering both
sides. Dropped nuts don't roll or bounce."


Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

No, never told 'em. I wouldn't expect them to be covered for anything anyway. Both of them are full
of oil, grass, etc stains. But, screws and nuts still stay in one place when dropped.

I do the same thing but I use rug scraps. A 5x5 berber scrap does a
great job and you can move it to where you are working. Nobody wants
to sit or lay on concrete in Florida.
I can pressure clean it and hang it out to dry.

Same here, but my scraps are about 12'x15' and they don't get moved, cleaned, or hung out to dry. I
do run over them with the leaf blower and a vacuum every now and then though!

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:08:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/29/2017 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

The code pretty much gives up the garage., The fire wall is between
there and the house, particularly sleeping rooms. They can't share a
wall.



How about a garage ceiling that is just below the floor of a second
story bedroom?


Mine is. What's your point? You and Don are sounding like I douse the carpets in gas and oil every
day. I don't. They actually stay pretty clean. But, if a drop or two of oil leaks on them, I don't
worry about it.

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On 4/30/17 8:44 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.



Gee, I sure hope your nice wife gets out of the house when your garage
catches on fire. Immolation, however, would be a suitable ending for a
racist p.o.s. like you and it would prepare you for your eternity in
hell, if there is such a place.

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On 4/30/2017 8:44 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.



John, my comment was in response to an earlier description you posted
about the carpets in your garage where you implied that they were full
of grease and oil. My concern was about parking a car with a hot
catalytic converter (and they *do* get hot) on a greasy, oil laden
carpet. If it's just a few drops of oil, there's probably no problem.

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On 4/30/17 8:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/30/2017 8:44 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard
may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but
that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.



John, my comment was in response to an earlier description you posted
about the carpets in your garage where you implied that they were full
of grease and oil. My concern was about parking a car with a hot
catalytic converter (and they *do* get hot) on a greasy, oil laden
carpet. If it's just a few drops of oil, there's probably no problem.




I'm guessing he doesn't park his truck or the family subaru in that
garage, not if it is carpeted. Next time I see my dentist, I'll do a
drive by and take a peek. (not really)

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:57:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/30/2017 8:44 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.



John, my comment was in response to an earlier description you posted
about the carpets in your garage where you implied that they were full
of grease and oil. My concern was about parking a car with a hot
catalytic converter (and they *do* get hot) on a greasy, oil laden
carpet. If it's just a few drops of oil, there's probably no problem.


Yup, I went back and read my initial comments and could see where one might think the carpets were
oil saturated. No, they're fairly clean. When they get bad, they get replaced. Last time I had two
orientals in there - both from a trash pile when someone was moving. They had a few stains, but
nothing my garage couldn't handle.

When these get bad enough, I'll buy some cheap carpetting at Home Depot. Something like this will do
both sides for about $120. Well worth it.

http://tinyurl.com/l384z45

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 09:01:06 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/30/17 8:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/30/2017 8:44 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard
may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but
that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.



John, my comment was in response to an earlier description you posted
about the carpets in your garage where you implied that they were full
of grease and oil. My concern was about parking a car with a hot
catalytic converter (and they *do* get hot) on a greasy, oil laden
carpet. If it's just a few drops of oil, there's probably no problem.




I'm guessing he doesn't park his truck or the family subaru in that
garage, not if it is carpeted. Next time I see my dentist, I'll do a
drive by and take a peek. (not really)

Truck won't fit. But the pictures below, if this works, will show how the carpets are used. Oh,
there's also a picture of what HIV Positive looks like for comparison purposes.

http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jher...ideshow/Garage

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On 4/30/2017 9:19 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:57:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/30/2017 8:44 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.



John, my comment was in response to an earlier description you posted
about the carpets in your garage where you implied that they were full
of grease and oil. My concern was about parking a car with a hot
catalytic converter (and they *do* get hot) on a greasy, oil laden
carpet. If it's just a few drops of oil, there's probably no problem.


Yup, I went back and read my initial comments and could see where one might think the carpets were
oil saturated. No, they're fairly clean. When they get bad, they get replaced. Last time I had two
orientals in there - both from a trash pile when someone was moving. They had a few stains, but
nothing my garage couldn't handle.

When these get bad enough, I'll buy some cheap carpetting at Home Depot. Something like this will do
both sides for about $120. Well worth it.

http://tinyurl.com/l384z45



Doesn't apply to your use but I got an education about carpets in
general when I was renovating and setting up the larger guitar shop I
had. I ordered some "commercial grade" carpets from a local carpet
place. It was a large area to cover and the carpet required cost almost
$8K.

It had not arrived yet but I was visited by the deputy chief of the town
fire department to get an occupancy permit inspection. He asked about
the still bare, concrete flooring and I told him I had ordered carpeting
but it was not going to be installed for another week or so.
He asked me to get him a copy of the fire rating certificate that
commercial carpets are required to have. So, I called the carpet guy
and asked for the certificate. Turns out he was trying to pass off
residential grade for commercial grade and therefore couldn't provide
the required certificate. I was bull**** because we had already
scheduled an "opening day" with bands playing and other events.

Anyway, I cancelled the order, called the Home Depot and they knew
exactly what I needed along with the required certificates. They jumped
through hoops to get the carpet and installed it in time for the
opening. It was also about half the cost.

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Johnny, if you're so confident everything is fine why not go ask your local fire dept if carpets on a garage floor are a good thing. I've never heard of it. Even in those garage shows they have the nice looking black and white vinyl squares.
Doctor Who used to own the house next door had a 1969 Triumph Bonville and that sure did leak on his cement garage floor.

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:06:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/30/2017 9:19 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:57:45 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/30/2017 8:44 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:44:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:01 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:


I don't think you get what he's driving at.

Possibly not.

I was assuming a fire hazard. The code deals with ignition sources and
separation in a classified location. The fuel is assumed.

I suppose if I got them all greasy like Don does, then a fire hazard may exist. But they stay pretty
clean. They may get a drop or two of oil when oil gets changed, but that's about it. I doubt they're
any more flammable than the rugs in the house.



John, my comment was in response to an earlier description you posted
about the carpets in your garage where you implied that they were full
of grease and oil. My concern was about parking a car with a hot
catalytic converter (and they *do* get hot) on a greasy, oil laden
carpet. If it's just a few drops of oil, there's probably no problem.


Yup, I went back and read my initial comments and could see where one might think the carpets were
oil saturated. No, they're fairly clean. When they get bad, they get replaced. Last time I had two
orientals in there - both from a trash pile when someone was moving. They had a few stains, but
nothing my garage couldn't handle.

When these get bad enough, I'll buy some cheap carpetting at Home Depot. Something like this will do
both sides for about $120. Well worth it.

http://tinyurl.com/l384z45



Doesn't apply to your use but I got an education about carpets in
general when I was renovating and setting up the larger guitar shop I
had. I ordered some "commercial grade" carpets from a local carpet
place. It was a large area to cover and the carpet required cost almost
$8K.

It had not arrived yet but I was visited by the deputy chief of the town
fire department to get an occupancy permit inspection. He asked about
the still bare, concrete flooring and I told him I had ordered carpeting
but it was not going to be installed for another week or so.
He asked me to get him a copy of the fire rating certificate that
commercial carpets are required to have. So, I called the carpet guy
and asked for the certificate. Turns out he was trying to pass off
residential grade for commercial grade and therefore couldn't provide
the required certificate. I was bull**** because we had already
scheduled an "opening day" with bands playing and other events.

Anyway, I cancelled the order, called the Home Depot and they knew
exactly what I needed along with the required certificates. They jumped
through hoops to get the carpet and installed it in time for the
opening. It was also about half the cost.



Lucky the fire guy came before and not after installation!

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 07:11:54 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Johnny, if you're so confident everything is fine why not go ask your local fire dept if carpets on a garage floor are a good thing. I've never heard of it. Even in those garage shows they have the nice looking black and white vinyl squares.
Doctor Who used to own the house next door had a 1969 Triumph Bonville and that sure did leak on his cement garage floor.


Yup, old Triumphs and Harleys did a lot of oil leaking.

Well guess what. Now you've heard of it. Been doing it for over 50 years, since I bought my first
house, except when overseas of course.

But, if it worries you, don't do it.

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Poco Deplorevole
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 07:11:54 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Johnny, if you're so confident everything is fine why not go ask your local fire dept if carpets on a garage floor are a good thing. Â*I've never heard of it. Â*Even in those garage shows they have the nice looking black and white vinyl squares.
Doctor Who used to own the house next door had a 1969 Triumph Bonville Â*and that sure did leak on his cement garage floor.


"Yup, old Triumphs and Harleys did a lot of oil leaking.

Well guess what. Now you've heard of it. Been doing it for over 50 years, since I bought my first
house, except when overseas of course.

But, if it worries you, don't do it."



So.....no consult with the fire dept?
You're quite piece of work, Johnny.

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:47:27 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:08:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/29/2017 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:29:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Not to be a party pooper but does the company that underwrites your home
owner's insurance know about the wall to wall rugs in your garage? :-)

The code pretty much gives up the garage., The fire wall is between
there and the house, particularly sleeping rooms. They can't share a
wall.



How about a garage ceiling that is just below the floor of a second
story bedroom?


Mine is. What's your point? You and Don are sounding like I douse the carpets in gas and oil every
day. I don't. They actually stay pretty clean. But, if a drop or two of oil leaks on them, I don't
worry about it.

I put a sprinkler system in the house in Maryland when I put on the
addition, including 4 heads in the garage. I also sprinklered the
utility space under the foyer and that hall along with the foyer
itself since it was a choke point in the evacuation route. (from both
floors). People should really be looking at their house hard,
identifying ignition sources and imagining what a fire might do to
their evacuation plan. At this house I cut a door to the outside in
the bedroom wall. Most people do not realize that the legally required
egress route may be a second floor window. Got a ladder handy? ;-)