On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds, cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.

Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 02:39:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.

I can't stand typing on the tablets. I don't like laptop keyboards either, but they're better than
those damn tablets.

On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.

On 3/30/2017 8:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for
traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We
download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes
can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for
business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay
bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can
store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



His question was, "Does the Apple stuff allow use of *sd* cards for
storage?"

One of the reasons I don't like Apple products is that you often have to
do it Apple's way, using Apple manufactured accessories.

On 3/30/17 11:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/30/2017 8:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for
traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We
download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes
can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for
business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay
bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can
store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



His question was, "Does the Apple stuff allow use of *sd* cards for
storage?"

One of the reasons I don't like Apple products is that you often have to
do it Apple's way, using Apple manufactured accessories.





That's one of the reasons why Apple devices are more reliable. My laptop
is about four years old, with a 512-gig solid state hard drive, 8 gigs
of RAM and it also holds in a slot a large SD card on which I have
stored about 50 full-length movies to watch when I travel, and my 4,000
song music library. It's never hiccuped once. The various free OS
upgrades are evolutionary and require little time to update and use.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 11:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/30/2017 8:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for
traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We
download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes
can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for
business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay
bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can
store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



His question was, "Does the Apple stuff allow use of *sd* cards for
storage?"

One of the reasons I don't like Apple products is that you often have to
do it Apple's way, using Apple manufactured accessories.





That's one of the reasons why Apple devices are more reliable. My laptop
is about four years old, with a 512-gig solid state hard drive, 8 gigs
of RAM and it also holds in a slot a large SD card on which I have
stored about 50 full-length movies to watch when I travel, and my 4,000
song music library. It's never hiccuped once. The various free OS
upgrades are evolutionary and require little time to update and use.


Most of those Apple accessories are the same as everyone else's except for
a software ID. When I worked at Maxtor we made disk drives for Apple.
Same drive as we made for everybody, but the SCSI ID was different.

On 3/30/17 8:45 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



She wants to carry her tunes, photos and every email and SMS she
has ever recieved, on her phone.
How do these devices connect to an iphone and can they be used for
backup of files?


The ones I have seen plug into the lightning port on the bottom of the
device and have a USB port on the other end. I've not used one, but I'm
pretty sure they'll do what you want. Here's one such device:

http://tinyurl.com/mlh7r2f

On 3/30/2017 8:51 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 8:45 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2
1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for
traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We
download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on
airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone
hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they
have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot
more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for
business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay
bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can
store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



She wants to carry her tunes, photos and every email and SMS she
has ever recieved, on her phone.
How do these devices connect to an iphone and can they be used for
backup of files?


The ones I have seen plug into the lightning port on the bottom of the
device and have a USB port on the other end. I've not used one, but I'm
pretty sure they'll do what you want. Here's one such device:

http://tinyurl.com/mlh7r2f


thanks,
Sounds like just the ticket. I'll pass it on and let you know if I get
any feedback

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Make America great again. Yes we can.

On 3/30/2017 10:08 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 3/30/2017 8:51 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 8:45 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm
finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2
1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for
traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other
20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We
download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on
airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone
hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they
have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot
more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for
business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding
campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay
bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can
store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



She wants to carry her tunes, photos and every email and SMS she
has ever recieved, on her phone.
How do these devices connect to an iphone and can they be used for
backup of files?


The ones I have seen plug into the lightning port on the bottom of the
device and have a USB port on the other end. I've not used one, but I'm
pretty sure they'll do what you want. Here's one such device:

http://tinyurl.com/mlh7r2f


thanks,
Sounds like just the ticket. I'll pass it on and let you know if I get
any feedback



Good grief. I think Hell just froze over. Justin and Harry having a
civil, polite and productive conversation. Well done!