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Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a
surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. |
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On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:41:03 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! === I've never owned a Kimber but had a chance to shoot one once. It was a real sweet gun. I suppose it's always possible to get a bad one like anything else. |
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On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:00:48 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:41:03 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! === I've never owned a Kimber but had a chance to shoot one once. It was a real sweet gun. I suppose it's always possible to get a bad one like anything else. True, but if you use Harry's You Tube criteria, you'd be over 100 times more likely to have a problem with a CZ! |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Harry, who gives a ****???? My Kimber works just fine. It's not on You Tube. If you're seriously considering buying a Kimber, which is the only reason I can imagine you're doing Kimber searches on You Tube, please reconsider. I'm sure you'd be disappointed in your purchase. Me? I'll stick with my Kimber. Shoots anything I put in it very well. |
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On 2/25/17 2:43 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Harry, who gives a ****???? Precisely. You're just spreading manure, as you usually do. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Hell, all guns can have a problem. My Ithaca Mdl 37 20ga jammed first time out pheasant hunting. Had a small piece of metal from the machining stuck in the action. Do not know where it was hiding, as I cleaned shotgun after buying. Then the worse POS I still have is a Remington semiauto 30.06. Is known as the jam-o-matic. |
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On 2/25/17 3:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Hell, all guns can have a problem. My Ithaca Mdl 37 20ga jammed first time out pheasant hunting. Had a small piece of metal from the machining stuck in the action. Do not know where it was hiding, as I cleaned shotgun after buying. Then the worse POS I still have is a Remington semiauto 30.06. Is known as the jam-o-matic. I haven't had any serious issues with any of the firearms I've owned. I did have a short-term issue with my Mini 14 going into a sort of autofire mode, but I fixed that with a couple of turns of a trigger adjustment screw I had installed. I'm not a fan of the "1911" model or the .45 ACP ammo. The typical .357 MAG round is more of a stopper when you need it, and you can fire .38 Special rounds in a .357 MAG revolver. |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:12:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:28:55 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. So far, Krause is the only one I've heard bad words from. Of course that's 'cause he doesn't own one and I do. Have you ever heard him say something nice about another's possession? Hell, he wouldn't even compliment his BFF's brand new Bayliner! === Back in 1999 I posted that I had just bought a Bertram 33 sportfish and Harry replied: "Nice boat." That was what, 18 years ago? |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:20:56 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:12:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:28:55 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. So far, Krause is the only one I've heard bad words from. Of course that's 'cause he doesn't own one and I do. Have you ever heard him say something nice about another's possession? Hell, he wouldn't even compliment his BFF's brand new Bayliner! === Back in 1999 I posted that I had just bought a Bertram 33 sportfish and Harry replied: "Nice boat." That was what, 18 years ago? Wow. That must have been an exceptional experience for you to have remembered it all this many years later. |
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On 2/25/17 5:12 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:28:55 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. So far, Krause is the only one I've heard bad words from. Of course that's 'cause he doesn't own one and I do. Have you ever heard him say something nice about another's possession? Hell, he wouldn't even compliment his BFF's brand new Bayliner! I like the new Ruger Mark IV, but I wouldn't pick the heavy model without a threaded barrel. The breakdown mechanism sure is an improvement. |
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On 2/25/17 5:20 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:12:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:28:55 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. So far, Krause is the only one I've heard bad words from. Of course that's 'cause he doesn't own one and I do. Have you ever heard him say something nice about another's possession? Hell, he wouldn't even compliment his BFF's brand new Bayliner! === Back in 1999 I posted that I had just bought a Bertram 33 sportfish and Harry replied: "Nice boat." That was what, 18 years ago? Nice boat. There was one for sale up in a boatyard in Deale a few years ago, right across from the West/BOAT-US store. I took a quickie tour; what was visible seemed in nice shape. |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:49:51 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/17 5:12 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:28:55 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. So far, Krause is the only one I've heard bad words from. Of course that's 'cause he doesn't own one and I do. Have you ever heard him say something nice about another's possession? Hell, he wouldn't even compliment his BFF's brand new Bayliner! I like the new Ruger Mark IV, but I wouldn't pick the heavy model without a threaded barrel. The breakdown mechanism sure is an improvement. Yeah, the 22/45 Lite might be a good weight for you. The Hunter is in the middle of the Mark IV pack. Although, the aluminum grip framed Target will save about 8oz. I don't find the weight to be a problem though. |
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On 2/25/17 6:05 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:49:51 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 5:12 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:28:55 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. So far, Krause is the only one I've heard bad words from. Of course that's 'cause he doesn't own one and I do. Have you ever heard him say something nice about another's possession? Hell, he wouldn't even compliment his BFF's brand new Bayliner! I like the new Ruger Mark IV, but I wouldn't pick the heavy model without a threaded barrel. The breakdown mechanism sure is an improvement. Yeah, the 22/45 Lite might be a good weight for you. The Hunter is in the middle of the Mark IV pack. Although, the aluminum grip framed Target will save about 8oz. I don't find the weight to be a problem though. Well, I've owned that pistol you have in the Mark III version. It was a fine shooter, but my experience since tells me that barrel length and weight are not necessary in a .22LR pistol for me to shoot accurately enough to please myself. Of course, when I screw on the suppressor, the barrel length gets a bit out of hand, but it is a lightweight piece. At the moment, only the 22/45 Lite has a threaded barrel. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/17 3:27 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Hell, all guns can have a problem. My Ithaca Mdl 37 20ga jammed first time out pheasant hunting. Had a small piece of metal from the machining stuck in the action. Do not know where it was hiding, as I cleaned shotgun after buying. Then the worse POS I still have is a Remington semiauto 30.06. Is known as the jam-o-matic. I haven't had any serious issues with any of the firearms I've owned. I did have a short-term issue with my Mini 14 going into a sort of autofire mode, but I fixed that with a couple of turns of a trigger adjustment screw I had installed. I'm not a fan of the "1911" model or the .45 ACP ammo. The typical .357 MAG round is more of a stopper when you need it, and you can fire .38 Special rounds in a .357 MAG revolver. ..45 is better in most situations. The 357 goes through the perp, couple walls and kills or injure someone a long ways away. .45 has lots of knock down power and will not travel a long ways. Best on a 357 for defense is hollow base wad cutters loaded base out. Super hollow point. Friend was a cop and shot at a robber and the shot upwards so would not hit any cars on highway 101. About a mile later went through the sheet metal wall and hit a women in the neck. She was injured but not killed. He has flash backs every time he goes by the building. |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:45:19 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Best on a 357 for defense is hollow base wad cutters loaded base out. Super hollow point. That may have been true 50 years ago but high performance bullets have come a long way. |
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On 2/25/17 7:45 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 3:27 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Hell, all guns can have a problem. My Ithaca Mdl 37 20ga jammed first time out pheasant hunting. Had a small piece of metal from the machining stuck in the action. Do not know where it was hiding, as I cleaned shotgun after buying. Then the worse POS I still have is a Remington semiauto 30.06. Is known as the jam-o-matic. I haven't had any serious issues with any of the firearms I've owned. I did have a short-term issue with my Mini 14 going into a sort of autofire mode, but I fixed that with a couple of turns of a trigger adjustment screw I had installed. I'm not a fan of the "1911" model or the .45 ACP ammo. The typical .357 MAG round is more of a stopper when you need it, and you can fire .38 Special rounds in a .357 MAG revolver. .45 is better in most situations. The 357 goes through the perp, couple walls and kills or injure someone a long ways away. .45 has lots of knock down power and will not travel a long ways. Best on a 357 for defense is hollow base wad cutters loaded base out. Super hollow point. Friend was a cop and shot at a robber and the shot upwards so would not hit any cars on highway 101. About a mile later went through the sheet metal wall and hit a women in the neck. She was injured but not killed. He has flash backs every time he goes by the building. I use Hornady Critical Defense ammo in my .357 MAG revolver, six in the cylinder and six in this speed loader: http://tinyurl.com/z5qjpxq Here's a vid on the ammo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTWFbuzX-l8 I've shot a few of these rounds for practice, but when I shoot targets, I use far less expensive ammo. The Hornady is about twice as much as my ball practice ammo. More info: http://www.hornady.com/store/critical_defense/ |
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Poco Deplorevole wrote:
Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. The parts are dirt cheap. The labor is the majority of the cost. |
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Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! It is. I would suspect there are far more Kimbers in the US than CZ's. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/17 3:27 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Hell, all guns can have a problem. My Ithaca Mdl 37 20ga jammed first time out pheasant hunting. Had a small piece of metal from the machining stuck in the action. Do not know where it was hiding, as I cleaned shotgun after buying. Then the worse POS I still have is a Remington semiauto 30.06. Is known as the jam-o-matic. I haven't had any serious issues with any of the firearms I've owned. I did have a short-term issue with my Mini 14 going into a sort of autofire mode, but I fixed that with a couple of turns of a trigger adjustment screw I had installed. I'm not a fan of the "1911" model or the .45 ACP ammo. The typical .357 MAG round is more of a stopper when you need it, and you can fire .38 Special rounds in a .357 MAG revolver. Some people can afford to have both and enjoy some variety at the range. BTW - .45 ACP ammo doesn't exist. It's .45 Auto. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/17 5:12 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:28:55 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:30:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. What is an example of the problems. My neighbor is a Kimber guy, he has several and I never hear a bad word about them. So far, Krause is the only one I've heard bad words from. Of course that's 'cause he doesn't own one and I do. Have you ever heard him say something nice about another's possession? Hell, he wouldn't even compliment his BFF's brand new Bayliner! I like the new Ruger Mark IV, but I wouldn't pick the heavy model without a threaded barrel. The breakdown mechanism sure is an improvement. That's a random response to this thread. Did you consider starting a new one or not posting at all? |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:45:19 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Best on a 357 for defense is hollow base wad cutters loaded base out. Super hollow point. That may have been true 50 years ago but high performance bullets have come a long way. Maybe Grazer, but most of the bullets penetration is too good. |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 03:21:54 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:45:19 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Best on a 357 for defense is hollow base wad cutters loaded base out. Super hollow point. That may have been true 50 years ago but high performance bullets have come a long way. Maybe Grazer, but most of the bullets penetration is too good. Just about any center fire pistol shooting hard ball ammo will shoot through both sides of an aluminum siding house if it doesn't hit a 2x4 or something else solid. |
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On 2/25/17 10:11 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 3:27 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 1:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:43:18 -0500, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:38:59 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/17 12:35 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: Just got first estimate for a sprinkler system. Five zones, front and back for $2950. That was a surprise. I would have guessed $8-10K. That's with three year warranty. Surprise, surprise. Will see what the next estimate looks like. Oh, you should definitely go for it...yeah... :) You know something about sprinkler systems? Now go to You Tube. Startling. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...roblem+with+cz You call "About 861,000 results" only 'a few'. Wow. === I know someone with a custom CZ very similar to the one Harree claims to have owned. It's very reliable and accurate. I'm sure it is. I was simply making a point to Harree. 'Problem with Kimber' in You Tube gets "About 8,590 results" compared to "About 861,000 results" for 'problem with CZ' That's quite startling! Yeah, the 8500 Kimber hits have to do with problems with Kimber firearms. Almost all the 851,000 results you cited for CZ have nothing to do with CZ firearms. Hell, all guns can have a problem. My Ithaca Mdl 37 20ga jammed first time out pheasant hunting. Had a small piece of metal from the machining stuck in the action. Do not know where it was hiding, as I cleaned shotgun after buying. Then the worse POS I still have is a Remington semiauto 30.06. Is known as the jam-o-matic. I haven't had any serious issues with any of the firearms I've owned. I did have a short-term issue with my Mini 14 going into a sort of autofire mode, but I fixed that with a couple of turns of a trigger adjustment screw I had installed. I'm not a fan of the "1911" model or the .45 ACP ammo. The typical .357 MAG round is more of a stopper when you need it, and you can fire .38 Special rounds in a .357 MAG revolver. Some people can afford to have both and enjoy some variety at the range. BTW - .45 ACP ammo doesn't exist. It's .45 Auto. Oh, then I suppose this seller and many other sellers of .45 ACP ammo are providing non-existent ammo: https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/310-45-acp If I wanted a 1911 clone that fired .45 ACP, I'd get one. I don't like the pistols or the rounds much. The.357 MAGs hit harder in self-defense situations. If I were interested in the .45 ACP round, though, I'd consider a dual load .45 revolver, like this Ruger Redhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcWPOecspQ |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:09:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: If I wanted a 1911 clone that fired .45 ACP, I'd get one. I don't like the pistols or the rounds much. The.357 MAGs hit harder in self-defense situations. If I were interested in the .45 ACP round, though, I'd consider a dual load .45 revolver, like this Ruger Redhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcWPOecspQ The problem is reliable feeding of a rimmed case in a semi auto. Certainly there are guns that pull it off but the semi rim seems a lot easier to feed. The flip side of that is the difficulty of chambering a semi rim in a revolver without moon clips. Some will headspace off the case neck but then they can be sensitive to ammo. |
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On 2/26/17 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:09:47 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: If I wanted a 1911 clone that fired .45 ACP, I'd get one. I don't like the pistols or the rounds much. The.357 MAGs hit harder in self-defense situations. If I were interested in the .45 ACP round, though, I'd consider a dual load .45 revolver, like this Ruger Redhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcWPOecspQ The problem is reliable feeding of a rimmed case in a semi auto. Certainly there are guns that pull it off but the semi rim seems a lot easier to feed. The flip side of that is the difficulty of chambering a semi rim in a revolver without moon clips. Some will headspace off the case neck but then they can be sensitive to ammo. I understand the technicalities you are describing, but I simply prefer shooting double action revolvers. |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:44:16 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 2/26/17 11:31 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:09:47 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: If I wanted a 1911 clone that fired .45 ACP, I'd get one. I don't like the pistols or the rounds much. The.357 MAGs hit harder in self-defense situations. If I were interested in the .45 ACP round, though, I'd consider a dual load .45 revolver, like this Ruger Redhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcWPOecspQ The problem is reliable feeding of a rimmed case in a semi auto. Certainly there are guns that pull it off but the semi rim seems a lot easier to feed. The flip side of that is the difficulty of chambering a semi rim in a revolver without moon clips. Some will headspace off the case neck but then they can be sensitive to ammo. I understand the technicalities you are describing, but I simply prefer shooting double action revolvers. Revolvers are OK and have rock solid reliability as long as you are OK with keeping them loaded and only think you will need 5 or 6 shots. SAs a faster to load, if you store it unloaded, carry more shots and is flatter if you CCW. I can argue both sides ;-) I have both. My most accurate is probably my OM Colt .38 revolver. Most instinctive to shoot is my 1934 Barretta and in a serious social situation I want my KP90 Ruger. I also have a Saturday Night Special double stack Ring of Fire 9mm (Bryco/Jennings 9) that was just an offer I could not refuse. Surprisingly, it seems to work better than I would expect. |
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On 2/26/17 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:44:16 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/26/17 11:31 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:09:47 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: If I wanted a 1911 clone that fired .45 ACP, I'd get one. I don't like the pistols or the rounds much. The.357 MAGs hit harder in self-defense situations. If I were interested in the .45 ACP round, though, I'd consider a dual load .45 revolver, like this Ruger Redhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcWPOecspQ The problem is reliable feeding of a rimmed case in a semi auto. Certainly there are guns that pull it off but the semi rim seems a lot easier to feed. The flip side of that is the difficulty of chambering a semi rim in a revolver without moon clips. Some will headspace off the case neck but then they can be sensitive to ammo. I understand the technicalities you are describing, but I simply prefer shooting double action revolvers. Revolvers are OK and have rock solid reliability as long as you are OK with keeping them loaded and only think you will need 5 or 6 shots. SAs a faster to load, if you store it unloaded, carry more shots and is flatter if you CCW. I can argue both sides ;-) I have both. My most accurate is probably my OM Colt .38 revolver. Most instinctive to shoot is my 1934 Barretta and in a serious social situation I want my KP90 Ruger. I also have a Saturday Night Special double stack Ring of Fire 9mm (Bryco/Jennings 9) that was just an offer I could not refuse. Surprisingly, it seems to work better than I would expect. If I need more than six revolver shots for personal defense, then I should have brought a rifle with hi-cap mags. One hit from the .357 MAG rounds I use should drop a bad guy if it doesn't kill him outright. But my first go-to firearm for home defense is a shotgun. My experience with S/A revolvers is that they are not faster to load than a D/A revolver with a speed loader. |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:31:15 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 2/26/17 1:05 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:44:16 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/26/17 11:31 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:09:47 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: If I wanted a 1911 clone that fired .45 ACP, I'd get one. I don't like the pistols or the rounds much. The.357 MAGs hit harder in self-defense situations. If I were interested in the .45 ACP round, though, I'd consider a dual load .45 revolver, like this Ruger Redhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcWPOecspQ The problem is reliable feeding of a rimmed case in a semi auto. Certainly there are guns that pull it off but the semi rim seems a lot easier to feed. The flip side of that is the difficulty of chambering a semi rim in a revolver without moon clips. Some will headspace off the case neck but then they can be sensitive to ammo. I understand the technicalities you are describing, but I simply prefer shooting double action revolvers. Revolvers are OK and have rock solid reliability as long as you are OK with keeping them loaded and only think you will need 5 or 6 shots. SAs a faster to load, if you store it unloaded, carry more shots and is flatter if you CCW. I can argue both sides ;-) I have both. My most accurate is probably my OM Colt .38 revolver. Most instinctive to shoot is my 1934 Barretta and in a serious social situation I want my KP90 Ruger. I also have a Saturday Night Special double stack Ring of Fire 9mm (Bryco/Jennings 9) that was just an offer I could not refuse. Surprisingly, it seems to work better than I would expect. If I need more than six revolver shots for personal defense, then I should have brought a rifle with hi-cap mags. One hit from the .357 MAG rounds I use should drop a bad guy if it doesn't kill him outright. But my first go-to firearm for home defense is a shotgun. I always hear this but I was never sure why people think it is true. Handling 2 1/2 feet of shotgun in the confines of a house is not really that easy. You are just begging for having it taken away from you unless you are just hiding behind the bed. My experience with S/A revolvers is that they are not faster to load than a D/A revolver with a speed loader. I guess you have never watched any of the IDPA guys. |
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On 2/26/17 2:00 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:31:15 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/26/17 1:05 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:44:16 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/26/17 11:31 AM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:09:47 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: If I wanted a 1911 clone that fired .45 ACP, I'd get one. I don't like the pistols or the rounds much. The.357 MAGs hit harder in self-defense situations. If I were interested in the .45 ACP round, though, I'd consider a dual load .45 revolver, like this Ruger Redhawk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfcWPOecspQ The problem is reliable feeding of a rimmed case in a semi auto. Certainly there are guns that pull it off but the semi rim seems a lot easier to feed. The flip side of that is the difficulty of chambering a semi rim in a revolver without moon clips. Some will headspace off the case neck but then they can be sensitive to ammo. I understand the technicalities you are describing, but I simply prefer shooting double action revolvers. Revolvers are OK and have rock solid reliability as long as you are OK with keeping them loaded and only think you will need 5 or 6 shots. SAs a faster to load, if you store it unloaded, carry more shots and is flatter if you CCW. I can argue both sides ;-) I have both. My most accurate is probably my OM Colt .38 revolver. Most instinctive to shoot is my 1934 Barretta and in a serious social situation I want my KP90 Ruger. I also have a Saturday Night Special double stack Ring of Fire 9mm (Bryco/Jennings 9) that was just an offer I could not refuse. Surprisingly, it seems to work better than I would expect. If I need more than six revolver shots for personal defense, then I should have brought a rifle with hi-cap mags. One hit from the .357 MAG rounds I use should drop a bad guy if it doesn't kill him outright. But my first go-to firearm for home defense is a shotgun. I always hear this but I was never sure why people think it is true. Handling 2 1/2 feet of shotgun in the confines of a house is not really that easy. You are just begging for having it taken away from you unless you are just hiding behind the bed. My experience with S/A revolvers is that they are not faster to load than a D/A revolver with a speed loader. I guess you have never watched any of the IDPA guys. I doubt I'll encounter one in a gunfight. |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 14:05:03 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: My experience with S/A revolvers is that they are not faster to load than a D/A revolver with a speed loader. I guess you have never watched any of the IDPA guys. I doubt I'll encounter one in a gunfight. The point is if you watch the competitions you will see that even these highly trained shooters take longer to load a revolver than a semi auto. You also get more rounds in a magazine than a speed loader, maybe 3x or more. |
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On 2/27/17 6:56 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 23:18:48 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 14:05:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: My experience with S/A revolvers is that they are not faster to load than a D/A revolver with a speed loader. I guess you have never watched any of the IDPA guys. I doubt I'll encounter one in a gunfight. The point is if you watch the competitions you will see that even these highly trained shooters take longer to load a revolver than a semi auto. You also get more rounds in a magazine than a speed loader, maybe 3x or more. I think Harry thought you meant 'single action' when you used 'SA' way back when. Then Harry began talking about S/A revolvers as though that's what you meant. Surely he's not trying to say it's faster to load a revolver, even with a speed loader, than to pop out and pop in a magazine in a SA. I thought he was talking about single action revolvers, too. Loading a double action revolver is faster, as is emptying the spent brass. When I took my first firearms safety course out at a range off of Route 50 out near Dulles airport, the instructor spent a lot of time explaining how to clear problems that arise with semi-auto pistols...stovepipes, failures to fire, et cetera. I had a round jam tight once in a rented Glock out at a range. I didn't want to mess with it, so I put the pistol down, facing in the proper direction, and called over the range officer. He was glad to take care of the problem for me. You might have an occasional problem with a revolver, but it probably isn't going to be because of the round. I don't dislike semi-auto pistols, but if my life depended upon a handgun, I'd prefer it to be a Smith & Wesson or Ruger .357 Mag double action revolver. Pull the trigger and it is going to go bang. Knock on plastic, I never had a problem with the .357s I've owned or just shot from either manufacturer. |
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