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On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:52:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: I have a pump shotgun for home defense, but the revolver is handy. At typical in the house distances, the shotgun will pretty much kill or at least drop the perp with one shot if I hit his body between the shoulders and the groin. .... Assuming the perp doesn't take it away from you. I still never understood why they think an untrained person trying to maneuver over 2 feet of gun around in the confines of a house is better than a handgun. I do understand they are harder hitting, if you actually hit anything. There certainly is not going to be much of a pattern at typical home distances, even with an 18" cylinder bore. It is all academic in Maryland anyway. If you shoot someone, you are probably going to jail. It is an "obligation to retreat" state, even inside your home. You are legally obligated to run away, it there is any chance at all of you having a way out. In that regard a single shot .22 may be as good as an M60 because you have to justify every round from scratch. Oh and don't get too carried away defending yourself with your bare hands. Each punch is the same way. The first punch may be self defense but the second could be aggravated assault .... or murder. I know a guy who found that out the hard way. |
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:52:43 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I have a pump shotgun for home defense, but the revolver is handy. At typical in the house distances, the shotgun will pretty much kill or at least drop the perp with one shot if I hit his body between the shoulders and the groin. ... Assuming the perp doesn't take it away from you. I still never understood why they think an untrained person trying to maneuver over 2 feet of gun around in the confines of a house is better than a handgun. I do understand they are harder hitting, if you actually hit anything. There certainly is not going to be much of a pattern at typical home distances, even with an 18" cylinder bore. It is all academic in Maryland anyway. If you shoot someone, you are probably going to jail. It is an "obligation to retreat" state, even inside your home. You are legally obligated to run away, it there is any chance at all of you having a way out. In that regard a single shot .22 may be as good as an M60 because you have to justify every round from scratch. Oh and don't get too carried away defending yourself with your bare hands. Each punch is the same way. The first punch may be self defense but the second could be aggravated assault ... or murder. I know a guy who found that out the hard way. About the only shotgun good for home defense would be an Ithaca auto and burglar shotgun. But you would need a tax stamp for it, and not made since the 30's. Otherwise, the barrel is going to hit s door jam or wall, if you are trying to move through the house. Otherwise, great behind the bed, lights on, and point the weapon at the door. If the intruder does not run, and enters then shoot. In Maryland, probably would qualify as retreating as far as you could. |
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Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 12:19:23 PM UTC-8, True North wrote:
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. In Krauses's case better make that 12 by 12 |
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True North wrote:
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Wow! |
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 12:42:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 2/27/17 10:47 AM, wrote: On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:52:43 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I have a pump shotgun for home defense, but the revolver is handy. At typical in the house distances, the shotgun will pretty much kill or at least drop the perp with one shot if I hit his body between the shoulders and the groin. ... Assuming the perp doesn't take it away from you. I still never understood why they think an untrained person trying to maneuver over 2 feet of gun around in the confines of a house is better than a handgun. I do understand they are harder hitting, if you actually hit anything. There certainly is not going to be much of a pattern at typical home distances, even with an 18" cylinder bore. It is all academic in Maryland anyway. If you shoot someone, you are probably going to jail. It is an "obligation to retreat" state, even inside your home. You are legally obligated to run away, it there is any chance at all of you having a way out. In that regard a single shot .22 may be as good as an M60 because you have to justify every round from scratch. Oh and don't get too carried away defending yourself with your bare hands. Each punch is the same way. The first punch may be self defense but the second could be aggravated assault ... or murder. I know a guy who found that out the hard way. We've had this conversation previously, and two or three times I've told you I've talked to both the county prosecutor and the sheriff. This was quite a few years ago. In this house, as in many houses, there is no place to retreat to if you are in a bedroom. There have been a couple of home invasion type incidents I recall in which the house's occupants took out the invaders and there was no prosecution. While Maryland isn't Florida, where you can shoot to kill at will and get away with it, we do allow people to defend themselves in their homes. I have a good friend who did 7 years in prison and he would disagree. You still have the obligation or retreat and you are guilty until you can prove yourself innocent. You will have to prove you had no possible way to get away, |
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