On 12/27/16 6:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/27/2016 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
I'm sure there is a good reason for this. Like, removing history class
for the history majors. The students probably know it all anyhow, so
why waste man power and tuition expenses . Pass em anyhow.

Sounds logical to me. After all a sheepskin proves your knowledge,
right?

So, you and FlaJim the Moron know as much "history" as someone with a
B.A. in it, eh? Doubtful. And of course you know as much about the
design and manufacture of electric motors as, say, degreed mechanical or
electrical engineers, eh? Doubtful. And FlaJim knows as much about
chipping paint on a navy vessel as, oh, a guy who chips paint on a navy
vessel...


Harry, you have a erroneous idea of what a degree represents.

I am certain that Tim knows far more about the design and manufacture of
electric motors than I do. I studied and know the basics but never had
reason to open a book about them in my career. A BA in anything
doesn't make you an expert or even qualified in a subject. It's a
global starting point for some. Others can (and do) achieve knowledge
and expertise in areas in which they work or study ... without a degree.
This is not intended to be "anti-academic" as you often like to accuse
others of being. It's simply a fact. Do you think you could have had
a successful career without your college degrees?


I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.

On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:07:28 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.

===

That was a long time ago. What did you accomplish in the intervening
years, and why did you leave journalism?

On 12/27/16 8:44 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:07:28 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.

===

That was a long time ago. What did you accomplish in the intervening
years, and why did you leave journalism?


I "left" journalism because I was earning about $20,000 a year and a NY
headhunter who I knew for other reasons put the head of a Detroit ad &
PR agency in touch with me. After two interviews in Detroit, I was hired
for twice the salary I received at The Associated Press. I stayed there
3-4 years, worked some big financial PR accounts. One of those was a
substantial national FHA-VA mortgage broker for which I took over
marketing and in two years brought it to the personal attention of
Walter Wriston, who directed his staff to buy the company, and ended up
doing so for $29 a share when it was trading OTC for $5 a share. You
recognize that name, I am sure. Oh, Walter was a liberal arts grad.

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 8:18:44 PM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 8:44 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:07:28 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.

===

That was a long time ago. What did you accomplish in the intervening
years, and why did you leave journalism?


I "left" journalism because I was earning about $20,000 a year and a NY
headhunter who I knew for other reasons put the head of a Detroit ad &
PR agency in touch with me. After two interviews in Detroit, I was hired
for twice the salary I received at The Associated Press. I stayed there
3-4 years, worked some big financial PR accounts. One of those was a
substantial national FHA-VA mortgage broker for which I took over
marketing and in two years brought it to the personal attention of
Walter Wriston, who directed his staff to buy the company, and ended up
doing so for $29 a share when it was trading OTC for $5 a share. You
recognize that name, I am sure. Oh, Walter was a liberal arts grad.

So now you boast of hob-knobing with banksters, eh Krause?

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:07:28 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.

===

That was a long time ago. What did you accomplish in the intervening
years, and why did you leave journalism?


He did have lunch with every president since Harry Truman. He left
journalism to go on to bigger and better things like bankrupting
himself twice and allowing his shanty in Jacksonville to be
forclosed on. Not to mention his special relationships with the
IRS and multiple Florida tax collectors. He aquired a wife who
refused to take his surname. He left journalism because he sucked
at it. Readers want the truth not Harry stories.
Harry developed special lasting relationships with gangstas and
union thugs that he brags about to this day.
Harry is the sort of guy they make politicians out of. His only
holdback is he doesn't hold a JD degree or any other worthwhile
degree. So there he sits in his basement chunking out insults to
real boaters. What a life, eh?
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 6:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/27/2016 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
I'm sure there is a good reason for this. Like, removing history class
for the history majors. The students probably know it all anyhow, so
why waste man power and tuition expenses . Pass em anyhow.

Sounds logical to me. After all a sheepskin proves your knowledge,
right?

So, you and FlaJim the Moron know as much "history" as someone with a
B.A. in it, eh? Doubtful. And of course you know as much about the
design and manufacture of electric motors as, say, degreed mechanical or
electrical engineers, eh? Doubtful. And FlaJim knows as much about
chipping paint on a navy vessel as, oh, a guy who chips paint on a navy
vessel...


Harry, you have a erroneous idea of what a degree represents.

I am certain that Tim knows far more about the design and manufacture of
electric motors than I do. I studied and know the basics but never had
reason to open a book about them in my career. A BA in anything
doesn't make you an expert or even qualified in a subject. It's a
global starting point for some. Others can (and do) achieve knowledge
and expertise in areas in which they work or study ... without a degree.
This is not intended to be "anti-academic" as you often like to accuse
others of being. It's simply a fact. Do you think you could have had
a successful career without your college degrees?


I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.


So a journalism degree is not needed to jounalize?

On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 22:09:04 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

So a journalism degree is not needed to jounalize?

Not at all. I ran into this guy at my high school reunion and he seems
to be doing fine without a degree in anything. (Dropped out of
Georgetown in his freshman year)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aram_Bakshian

On 12/27/16 11:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 6:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/27/2016 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
I'm sure there is a good reason for this. Like, removing history class
for the history majors. The students probably know it all anyhow, so
why waste man power and tuition expenses . Pass em anyhow.

Sounds logical to me. After all a sheepskin proves your knowledge,
right?

So, you and FlaJim the Moron know as much "history" as someone with a
B.A. in it, eh? Doubtful. And of course you know as much about the
design and manufacture of electric motors as, say, degreed mechanical or
electrical engineers, eh? Doubtful. And FlaJim knows as much about
chipping paint on a navy vessel as, oh, a guy who chips paint on a navy
vessel...


Harry, you have a erroneous idea of what a degree represents.

I am certain that Tim knows far more about the design and manufacture of
electric motors than I do. I studied and know the basics but never had
reason to open a book about them in my career. A BA in anything
doesn't make you an expert or even qualified in a subject. It's a
global starting point for some. Others can (and do) achieve knowledge
and expertise in areas in which they work or study ... without a degree.
This is not intended to be "anti-academic" as you often like to accuse
others of being. It's simply a fact. Do you think you could have had
a successful career without your college degrees?


I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.


So a journalism degree is not needed to jounalize?


No. General knowledge and the ability to ask questions and write are,
though. I picked up a few "trade school" skills in the j-school courses.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 11:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 6:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/27/2016 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
I'm sure there is a good reason for this. Like, removing history class
for the history majors. The students probably know it all anyhow, so
why waste man power and tuition expenses . Pass em anyhow.

Sounds logical to me. After all a sheepskin proves your knowledge,
right?

So, you and FlaJim the Moron know as much "history" as someone with a
B.A. in it, eh? Doubtful. And of course you know as much about the
design and manufacture of electric motors as, say, degreed mechanical or
electrical engineers, eh? Doubtful. And FlaJim knows as much about
chipping paint on a navy vessel as, oh, a guy who chips paint on a navy
vessel...


Harry, you have a erroneous idea of what a degree represents.

I am certain that Tim knows far more about the design and manufacture of
electric motors than I do. I studied and know the basics but never had
reason to open a book about them in my career. A BA in anything
doesn't make you an expert or even qualified in a subject. It's a
global starting point for some. Others can (and do) achieve knowledge
and expertise in areas in which they work or study ... without a degree.
This is not intended to be "anti-academic" as you often like to accuse
others of being. It's simply a fact. Do you think you could have had
a successful career without your college degrees?


I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.


So a journalism degree is not needed to jounalize?


No. General knowledge and the ability to ask questions and write are,
though. I picked up a few "trade school" skills in the j-school courses.


So why the degree requirements?

On 12/28/16 10:39 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 11:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 6:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/27/2016 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/27/16 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
I'm sure there is a good reason for this. Like, removing history class
for the history majors. The students probably know it all anyhow, so
why waste man power and tuition expenses . Pass em anyhow.

Sounds logical to me. After all a sheepskin proves your knowledge,
right?

So, you and FlaJim the Moron know as much "history" as someone with a
B.A. in it, eh? Doubtful. And of course you know as much about the
design and manufacture of electric motors as, say, degreed mechanical or
electrical engineers, eh? Doubtful. And FlaJim knows as much about
chipping paint on a navy vessel as, oh, a guy who chips paint on a navy
vessel...


Harry, you have a erroneous idea of what a degree represents.

I am certain that Tim knows far more about the design and manufacture of
electric motors than I do. I studied and know the basics but never had
reason to open a book about them in my career. A BA in anything
doesn't make you an expert or even qualified in a subject. It's a
global starting point for some. Others can (and do) achieve knowledge
and expertise in areas in which they work or study ... without a degree.
This is not intended to be "anti-academic" as you often like to accuse
others of being. It's simply a fact. Do you think you could have had
a successful career without your college degrees?


I wouldn't have been hired by a major U.S. newspaper unless I was well
along in my B.A. degree, and I wouldn't have been recruited by The
Associated Press unless I had been working for a paper and had a degree.
I was hired by the paper at a journalism honorary society dinner because
I was being inducted into the society, even though I wasn't a journalism
school major, but merely a regular contributor to the college newspaper
and a stringer for another newspaper. I learned how to write in high
school, but I learned how to write for a newspaper at the Kansas City
Star. I learned reportorial techniques in the few j-school courses I
took after completing the requirements for my English major.


So a journalism degree is not needed to jounalize?


No. General knowledge and the ability to ask questions and write are,
though. I picked up a few "trade school" skills in the j-school courses.


So why the degree requirements?


Sorry, I didn't make the rules back then.