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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:08:38 -0500, Alex wrote:

Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/29/16 6:55 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 12/28/16 9:47 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:49:49 -0500, Keyser Soze
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If you knew what comprised the liberal arts, you might not say that...or
maybe you would. Math and the physical sciences, for example, are
included in the liberal arts.
===

Yes but they are watered down courses that don't require (or teach) in
depth knowledge. Ask any engineer or physicist who has studied the
real thing.

That's just bull****. Universities typically have "Colleges of Arts and
Sciences," and the courses contained within usually are the same
offerings any student who wants to take can take, assuming the pre-reqs
are met. Once you get past the typical freshman "101" stuff, you are
into the real thing. I'm not saying "easier" courses don't exist here
and there but for the most part what you are describing is fiction. If,
for example, you are "pre-med" in a college of arts and sciences and
majoring in biology, the classes you take are going to be on the same
list of offerings other students in the college of arts and sciences can
take.

Is that why NASA covets Kansas Klown Kollege graduates and shuns
MIT graduates.? You are such a dip****, Harry.

All you are doing is offering up further evidence of your ignorance,
**** for brains. You couldn't get a job at my alma mater raking leaves.

Oh...scientist alum include:

Jon Davies (BS 1980), meteorologist, expert on severe thunderstorm
environments and forecasting
Paul R. Ehrlich (MA/PhD 1957), entomologist, researcher and author of
The Population Bomb, and 1990 MacArthur Fellow recipient
Joe Engle (BS 1955), former NASA astronaut and a retired U.S. Air Force
colonel[24]
Ronald E. Evans (BS 1956), former NASA astronaut and a retired U.S. Navy
captain[25]
Robert M. Haralick (BA 1964, BS 1966, MS 1967, PhD 1969), Distinguished
Professor of Computer Science, Graduate Center, City University of New
York[26]
Steve Hawley (BA 1973), former NASA director and astronaut; Professor of
Physics and Astronomy at KU
Erasmus Haworth, founder of the Kansas Geological Survey
David Hillis, evolutionary biologist and 1999 MacArthur Fellow recipient
Wes Jackson (MA 1960), environmental historian and founder of the Land
Institute, a 1992 MacArthur Fellow recipient
Richard F. Johnston, ornithologist and author, onetime curator of the
Natural History Museum
William T. Kane, physicist in field of fiber optics
Joseph W. Kennedy (MA 1937), co-discoverer of the element plutonium
Brian McClendon (BSEE 1986), VP of Engineering for Google Earth,
formerly Keyhole, Inc.
Elmer McCollum, co-discoverer of Vitamin A
Nariman Mehta, pharmacologist, developer of the antidepressant and
smoking cessation drug bupropion
Rear Admiral Wayne E. Meyer, "father" of the Aegis Combat System and
namesake of the USS Wayne E. Meyer naval destroyer
Douglas Shane (BS 1982), director of flight operations for SpaceShipOne,
which made the first privately funded human spaceflight
Vernon L. Smith (M.A. in economics 1952), awarded the 2002 Nobel
Memorial Prize in Economics[1]
Kathryn Stephenson (MD 1941), first American woman board-certified
plastic surgeon
Walter Sutton, pioneer of cellular biology and genetics, physician, inventor
George Tiller (BS 1963, MD 1967), physician, abortion provider,
pro-choice advocate
Clyde Tombaugh, astronomer, discoverer of the dwarf planet Pluto
Kent Whealy, co-founder of the Seed Savers Exchange; 1988 MacArthur
Fellow recipient

Did you even graduate from high school?


Harold Krause, BA. Two bankruptcies, estranged from his kids, biggest
accomplishment: one of the chief internet trolls.


You'll get crickets on that one.


But it was definitely a good one!
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On 12/30/16 1:22 PM, Paco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 07:16:50 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 12/29/16 2:04 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:37:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Seems to me that "Liberal Arts" was what you signed up for in college
when you didn't have a clue what you wanted to be when you grew up.

Maybe that was my "Problem". I had a very good idea of what I wanted
to be when I grew up and I did it. Any education I sought was toward
that goal. Once I had a good job, I had the opportunity to seek
knowledge in all sorts of other fields and in other venues.


My dad parlayed his apparently significant graphic arts abilities he
developed in high school into an academic scholarship at a major
Pennsylvania university. His uncle, a Russian immigrant like his dad,
helped out, and during the Great Depression after graduation, he worked
for that uncle as manager of displays and merchandising for the latter's
small chain of variety stores, and also a store and regional manager.
When he had his boat store, my dad would spend the slow winter hours at
the store painting rather risque portraits of nudes and semi-nudes of
voluptuous women he never met, an avocation that drove my mom nuts. A
friend's father in Overland Park, Kansas, a real estate developer, had
artistic abilities, too, and he would sculpt nudes of well-developed
women he never met, a hobby that also drive his wife nuts. Ahhh, art!


Sure hope he didn't wear his arm out patting himself on the back as much as his son does.


He was a talented guy, and in addition to his art skills, he was a
decent amateur writer and a professional quality organist on the Hammond
and on some theater organs. When one of the big local theaters in New
Haven had "silent movie nights," he often was invited to play the
accompaniment on the theater's "Mighty Wurlitzer." During his late youth
in Philadelphia, while in college, he was a member of a Mummers' Club in
Philly and strummed banjo and ukulele.

On the other hand, he never sent us out to hunt squirrels for the family
dinner. He did rescue/adopt a pair of motherless baby raccoons when I
was about 10 and built a big indoor/outdoor enclosure for them at the
back of the shop of his boat store. They later were donated to a local
nature facility, where they entertained kids for many years. They were
completely tame and spoiled.


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Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:08:38 -0500, Alex wrote:

Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/29/16 6:55 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 12/28/16 9:47 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:49:49 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

If you knew what comprised the liberal arts, you might not say that...or
maybe you would. Math and the physical sciences, for example, are
included in the liberal arts.
===

Yes but they are watered down courses that don't require (or teach) in
depth knowledge. Ask any engineer or physicist who has studied the
real thing.

That's just bull****. Universities typically have "Colleges of Arts and
Sciences," and the courses contained within usually are the same
offerings any student who wants to take can take, assuming the pre-reqs
are met. Once you get past the typical freshman "101" stuff, you are
into the real thing. I'm not saying "easier" courses don't exist here
and there but for the most part what you are describing is fiction. If,
for example, you are "pre-med" in a college of arts and sciences and
majoring in biology, the classes you take are going to be on the same
list of offerings other students in the college of arts and sciences can
take.

Is that why NASA covets Kansas Klown Kollege graduates and shuns
MIT graduates.? You are such a dip****, Harry.

All you are doing is offering up further evidence of your ignorance,
**** for brains. You couldn't get a job at my alma mater raking leaves.

Oh...scientist alum include:

Jon Davies (BS 1980), meteorologist, expert on severe thunderstorm
environments and forecasting
Paul R. Ehrlich (MA/PhD 1957), entomologist, researcher and author of
The Population Bomb, and 1990 MacArthur Fellow recipient
Joe Engle (BS 1955), former NASA astronaut and a retired U.S. Air Force
colonel[24]
Ronald E. Evans (BS 1956), former NASA astronaut and a retired U.S. Navy
captain[25]
Robert M. Haralick (BA 1964, BS 1966, MS 1967, PhD 1969), Distinguished
Professor of Computer Science, Graduate Center, City University of New
York[26]
Steve Hawley (BA 1973), former NASA director and astronaut; Professor of
Physics and Astronomy at KU
Erasmus Haworth, founder of the Kansas Geological Survey
David Hillis, evolutionary biologist and 1999 MacArthur Fellow recipient
Wes Jackson (MA 1960), environmental historian and founder of the Land
Institute, a 1992 MacArthur Fellow recipient
Richard F. Johnston, ornithologist and author, onetime curator of the
Natural History Museum
William T. Kane, physicist in field of fiber optics
Joseph W. Kennedy (MA 1937), co-discoverer of the element plutonium
Brian McClendon (BSEE 1986), VP of Engineering for Google Earth,
formerly Keyhole, Inc.
Elmer McCollum, co-discoverer of Vitamin A
Nariman Mehta, pharmacologist, developer of the antidepressant and
smoking cessation drug bupropion
Rear Admiral Wayne E. Meyer, "father" of the Aegis Combat System and
namesake of the USS Wayne E. Meyer naval destroyer
Douglas Shane (BS 1982), director of flight operations for SpaceShipOne,
which made the first privately funded human spaceflight
Vernon L. Smith (M.A. in economics 1952), awarded the 2002 Nobel
Memorial Prize in Economics[1]
Kathryn Stephenson (MD 1941), first American woman board-certified
plastic surgeon
Walter Sutton, pioneer of cellular biology and genetics, physician, inventor
George Tiller (BS 1963, MD 1967), physician, abortion provider,
pro-choice advocate
Clyde Tombaugh, astronomer, discoverer of the dwarf planet Pluto
Kent Whealy, co-founder of the Seed Savers Exchange; 1988 MacArthur
Fellow recipient

Did you even graduate from high school?


Harold Krause, BA. Two bankruptcies, estranged from his kids, biggest
accomplishment: one of the chief internet trolls.

You'll get crickets on that one.

But it was definitely a good one!

And he never denies the truth when there is documentation to back it up.
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