Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 6:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

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The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.


So the choice was ITT or go to school in Kansas? and they picked ITT?


In the good old days, out of state kids had to have at least a minimum
score on either the SATs or what I sort of recall was called the ACT,
plus minimum scores on the Achievement Tests. I don't know what the
requirements are these days. Based upon your writing samples here, you
wouldn't have made the cut back then, and it isn't clear you would have
made it through what we called "Bonehead English." Sorry, Charlie, but
even in Kansas back then, rotten tuna didn't make it in.


I made it through English, and though math, and an engineering degree at a
good school. And had a successful career. Never have been near
bankruptcy.

Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 6:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.


So the choice was ITT or go to school in Kansas? and they picked ITT?


In the good old days, out of state kids had to have at least a minimum
score on either the SATs or what I sort of recall was called the ACT,
plus minimum scores on the Achievement Tests. I don't know what the
requirements are these days. Based upon your writing samples here, you
wouldn't have made the cut back then, and it isn't clear you would have
made it through what we called "Bonehead English." Sorry, Charlie, but
even in Kansas back then, rotten tuna didn't make it in.


I made it through English, and though math, and an engineering degree at a
good school. And had a successful career. Never have been near
bankruptcy.



How wonderful for you. Were you socially promoted through English?

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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 18:27:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 6:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.


So the choice was ITT or go to school in Kansas? and they picked ITT?


In the good old days, out of state kids had to have at least a minimum
score on either the SATs or what I sort of recall was called the ACT,
plus minimum scores on the Achievement Tests. I don't know what the
requirements are these days. Based upon your writing samples here, you
wouldn't have made the cut back then, and it isn't clear you would have
made it through what we called "Bonehead English." Sorry, Charlie, but
even in Kansas back then, rotten tuna didn't make it in.

I had good enough SAT and ACT numbers to be accepted at American U, U
Md and GW. I just did not have the money.

On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.



The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 18:04:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.



The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?

The good schools do and flunking out has serious implications beyond
just explaining it to your mom.
Typically you had to sign a 6 year commitment and if you flunk out,
plan on chipping paint for all 6 years, making E-3 pay until you can
find another rate that will have you.
Companies did value that training, when they valued employees at all.
IBM took me at 19 because of my navy school, over guys with college
degrees. They hired every ET and FT they could find.

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.



The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?


You'd be surprised.
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On 9/6/16 7:29 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.



The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?


You'd be surprised.


Not if you got in...

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:



Not if you got in...

I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing average
(~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics
training)

On 9/6/2016 8:00 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 7:29 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.



The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?


You'd be surprised.


Not if you got in...

The problem with your accusations is that you have no idea what you are
talking about. The Navy has many jobs ... called "ratings" ... and each
one has a minimum score required (along with other specific
requirements), to attend the rating's particular school(s). Some
require enlistments beyond the typical 4 years due to the length of the
schools and the educational investment the government makes. Without
giving away any unnecessary details, the rating and schools "Justan"
attended required one of the highest qualifying scores. You may be
good at sentence structure, prepositional phrases and teaching bonehead
English but it's highly unlikely you would have qualified for the Navy
schools he attended.

5:04 PMKeyser Soze
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The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?
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Yes they do Harry. Unlike the unskilled buying a union card, the navy does have admission standards.