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Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 9:43 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/7/16 8:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/6/2016 8:00 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 7:29 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about this government action against education? === The problem is that studens were misled about their employment opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards. The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror? You'd be surprised. Not if you got in... The problem with your accusations is that you have no idea what you are talking about. The Navy has many jobs ... called "ratings" ... and each one has a minimum score required (along with other specific requirements), to attend the rating's particular school(s). Some require enlistments beyond the typical 4 years due to the length of the schools and the educational investment the government makes. Without giving away any unnecessary details, the rating and schools "Justan" attended required one of the highest qualifying scores. You may be good at sentence structure, prepositional phrases and teaching bonehead English but it's highly unlikely you would have qualified for the Navy schools he attended. Oh, yeah, because the "details" from 50 years ago are significant today. I get it. Nothing stands still like the English language. Once you master it, it's yours for life. That holds true for most of the union trades as well. Rules and standards change a bit but once a brick stacker always a brick stacker. Technology is a different story. You can't stagnate like an English proffessor and expect to move along or even keep a job. So you're right. You also proved that a pedestrian skill set like you have is not that hard to come by and is of little value, especially for bragging rights. What the hell would you know about intellectual pursuits? Answer? Nothing. And you don't seem to know much about the skilled trades, either. In fact, there's little evidence here you know much about anything. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 8:50:47 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/6/2016 9:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 8:11 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Not if you got in... I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing average (~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics training) Why would I want Navy electronics training? Not to worry. You wouldn't qualify for it anyway. You mean, my soldering and assembling a half dozen Radio Shack kits (from the Crown Street store) while I was in junior high and high school, my ability to take completely apart and properly reassemble outboard motors and lawnmower engines, and my A's and B's in algebra, geometry, chemistry, calculus, and physics in high school wouldn't have done it for me? Damn! Then I guess I would have had to go to college and not join the navy. Drats! Our company trains middle aged ladies with high school diplomas to be electronic assemblers in a few days. The kits you built are the equivalent of paint-by-number paintings. Your daddy's outboards that you may have torn down are a far cry from today's which require special tools and likely factory training to do what you claim. You just don't get it. You may have taken algebra and physics, but the ability to apply them, along with electronic theory, to design and repair electronic circuits require *far* more of an understanding than that Radio Shack kit could even hint at. And to be honest, a good electronic technician has innate skills that just can't be taught, especially in a college environment. You can't teach a kid to ride a bike at a seminar, or a lecture. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:50:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/6/2016 9:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 8:11 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Not if you got in... I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing average (~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics training) Why would I want Navy electronics training? Not to worry. You wouldn't qualify for it anyway. You mean, my soldering and assembling a half dozen Radio Shack kits (from the Crown Street store) while I was in junior high and high school, my ability to take completely apart and properly reassemble outboard motors and lawnmower engines, and my A's and B's in algebra, geometry, chemistry, calculus, and physics in high school wouldn't have done it for me? Damn! Then I guess I would have had to go to college and not join the navy. Drats! Did you actually understand how those "kits" worked and how to find which part was bad when they didn't? If I showed you a wave form, could you identify the circuit that created it? |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
8:22 AMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text - Like many, I don't think I've ever had a problem with "thinking", critical or otherwise. I certainly didn't learn to "think" while attending civilian college courses ... mostly at night school after I left the Navy. I was older than most of the students, having spent 9 years in the Navy, and was generally regarded as being "seasoned" and more advanced in my "critical thinking" capabilities, both by my fellow students and by the instructor. Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education? ....... Or you're ignorant if you go through life and don't have a liberal arts degree? |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 09:02:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
My guess is that the college course was designed to stretch your thinking processes, and the navy course was designed to teach you to do tasks. Thinking, after all, isn't really important, eh? Right now the "thinking" they teach is thinking the $100,000 they spent will actually help them get a job but after graduating they end up getting a job a high school drop out could do. Remember I just told you, three years after graduating from Bill Clinton's diploma mill, 65% of the students are in default on their loans because they are not working. Trump graduates do that well. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 11:03 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:50:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/6/2016 9:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 8:11 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Not if you got in... I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing average (~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics training) Why would I want Navy electronics training? Not to worry. You wouldn't qualify for it anyway. You mean, my soldering and assembling a half dozen Radio Shack kits (from the Crown Street store) while I was in junior high and high school, my ability to take completely apart and properly reassemble outboard motors and lawnmower engines, and my A's and B's in algebra, geometry, chemistry, calculus, and physics in high school wouldn't have done it for me? Damn! Then I guess I would have had to go to college and not join the navy. Drats! Did you actually understand how those "kits" worked and how to find which part was bad when they didn't? If I showed you a wave form, could you identify the circuit that created it? My dad knew and he sorta showed me at his shop, or one of his moonlighting part-timers did (he had a couple of guys who were senior techs at Sikorsky). I didn't say I had the knowledge of a trained electronics tech, but I am sure I could have learned if I wanted to do so. I did "ace" physics, calc, and chem in high school, and these were all AP courses taught in small classes by first-rate, no-nonsense teachers. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education? I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and enjoying his boat. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
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Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:55:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. We have a whole generation of people thinking abstractly while sleeping on their parent's couch and watching TV all day because they can't find a job. (94 million as we speak) Maybe a little trade education is what we need. I know you are infatuated with the Europeans, particularly the Germans and Scandinavians. That is how they do it. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education? I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and enjoying his boat. And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend... I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the only one. I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to see clients because I like working and my clients still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and they still have the ability to contribute. In other words your plan is to die at your desk working. Why do you think your way is the only path? I'd go nuts if pretty much all I had to do in life was work on a never-ending "honey do" list, take my dog boating, and go on the occasional out of town vacation. It is called having a life that goes beyond having a job. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education? I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and enjoying his boat. And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend... I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the only one. I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to see clients because I like working and my clients still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and they still have the ability to contribute. In other words your plan is to die at your desk working. My plan is to work part-time for as long as I feel like working part-time. I enjoy the work, the intellectual stimulation, the meeting with clients, the production of work product that helps people. I'm not the sort of guy who would like to fill his day with your jar of honey-do jobs. I'm a candidate to be named to a board of an NGO that helps locals in Africa and Central and South America build and hold onto sustainable communities. To me, that is a lot more worthwhile and interesting than rebuilding an outdoor bar. To each his own. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:55:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. We have a whole generation of people thinking abstractly while sleeping on their parent's couch and watching TV all day because they can't find a job. (94 million as we speak) Maybe a little trade education is what we need. I know you are infatuated with the Europeans, particularly the Germans and Scandinavians. That is how they do it. I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:55:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. We have a whole generation of people thinking abstractly while sleeping on their parent's couch and watching TV all day because they can't find a job. (94 million as we speak) Maybe a little trade education is what we need. I know you are infatuated with the Europeans, particularly the Germans and Scandinavians. That is how they do it. Worse thing we did, and the California college leaders admitted it a couple years later was to drop industrial arts courses and make all paths College Prep, and to learn a trade go to Community College or a state university. One of the major reasons for high drop out rates from primary schools. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education? I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and enjoying his boat. And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend... I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the only one. I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to see clients because I like working and my clients still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and they still have the ability to contribute. In other words your plan is to die at your desk working. Why do you think your way is the only path? I'd go nuts if pretty much all I had to do in life was work on a never-ending "honey do" list, take my dog boating, and go on the occasional out of town vacation. It is called having a life that goes beyond having a job. Big problem for a lot of people. No life outside work. My dad was management at UC Berkeley in building and grounds and during a strike he was kept busy fixing the normal broke stuff and the sabotage by the union strikers. After the strike, he took early retirement at 55 due to animosity at fixing sabotage. Problem he retired to his lake property, and other than the 3 months of summer, most of the social activity was at the local bar. Cancer may not have killed him at 68, if he had stayed local to where we grew up. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:28:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars. Certainly good money in not paying other people to do all sorts of things. I am not a one trick pony. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. You forgot something. They are also racists. |
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Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 3:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. You forgot something. They are also racists. There's no question a significant percentage of Trump supporters are racists. |
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On 9/7/2016 11:16 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:03 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:50:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/6/2016 9:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 8:11 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Not if you got in... I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing average (~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics training) Why would I want Navy electronics training? Not to worry. You wouldn't qualify for it anyway. You mean, my soldering and assembling a half dozen Radio Shack kits (from the Crown Street store) while I was in junior high and high school, my ability to take completely apart and properly reassemble outboard motors and lawnmower engines, and my A's and B's in algebra, geometry, chemistry, calculus, and physics in high school wouldn't have done it for me? Damn! Then I guess I would have had to go to college and not join the navy. Drats! Did you actually understand how those "kits" worked and how to find which part was bad when they didn't? If I showed you a wave form, could you identify the circuit that created it? My dad knew and he sorta showed me at his shop, or one of his moonlighting part-timers did (he had a couple of guys who were senior techs at Sikorsky). I didn't say I had the knowledge of a trained electronics tech, but I am sure I could have learned if I wanted to do so. I did "ace" physics, calc, and chem in high school, and these were all AP courses taught in small classes by first-rate, no-nonsense teachers. I'm sure you had first rate teachers. Problem is you were a 3rd rate learner. |
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On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/2016 12:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 12:21 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education? I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and enjoying his boat. And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend... I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the only one. I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to see clients because I like working and my clients still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and they still have the ability to contribute. In other words your plan is to die at your desk working. My plan is to work part-time for as long as I feel like working part-time. I enjoy the work, the intellectual stimulation, the meeting with clients, the production of work product that helps people. I'm not the sort of guy who would like to fill his day with your jar of honey-do jobs. I'm a candidate to be named to a board of an NGO that helps locals in Africa and Central and South America build and hold onto sustainable communities. To me, that is a lot more worthwhile and interesting than rebuilding an outdoor bar. To each his own. Be a little suspicious when they ask for your bank account number and SS Number. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 6:21 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:16 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:03 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:50:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/6/2016 9:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 8:11 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Not if you got in... I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing average (~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics training) Why would I want Navy electronics training? Not to worry. You wouldn't qualify for it anyway. You mean, my soldering and assembling a half dozen Radio Shack kits (from the Crown Street store) while I was in junior high and high school, my ability to take completely apart and properly reassemble outboard motors and lawnmower engines, and my A's and B's in algebra, geometry, chemistry, calculus, and physics in high school wouldn't have done it for me? Damn! Then I guess I would have had to go to college and not join the navy. Drats! Did you actually understand how those "kits" worked and how to find which part was bad when they didn't? If I showed you a wave form, could you identify the circuit that created it? My dad knew and he sorta showed me at his shop, or one of his moonlighting part-timers did (he had a couple of guys who were senior techs at Sikorsky). I didn't say I had the knowledge of a trained electronics tech, but I am sure I could have learned if I wanted to do so. I did "ace" physics, calc, and chem in high school, and these were all AP courses taught in small classes by first-rate, no-nonsense teachers. I'm sure you had first rate teachers. Problem is you were a 3rd rate learner. No, stupid...you had to take tests to get into the AP classes. You, on the other hand, seemingly did not have what it took to get into an open admission community college. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 6:27 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 12:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 12:21 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education? I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and enjoying his boat. And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend... I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the only one. I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to see clients because I like working and my clients still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and they still have the ability to contribute. In other words your plan is to die at your desk working. My plan is to work part-time for as long as I feel like working part-time. I enjoy the work, the intellectual stimulation, the meeting with clients, the production of work product that helps people. I'm not the sort of guy who would like to fill his day with your jar of honey-do jobs. I'm a candidate to be named to a board of an NGO that helps locals in Africa and Central and South America build and hold onto sustainable communities. To me, that is a lot more worthwhile and interesting than rebuilding an outdoor bar. To each his own. Be a little suspicious when they ask for your bank account number and SS Number. Naw...they aren't your family of Nigerian bankers. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a home. Putting it simply, you are a loserKrauster. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a home. Putting it simply, you are a loser Krauster. Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold? |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a home. Putting it simply, you are a loser Krauster. Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold? You haven't been cleared for that sort of information. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a home. Putting it simply, you are a loser Krauster. Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold? You haven't been cleared for that sort of information. Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:56:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 2:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:28:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars. Certainly good money in not paying other people to do all sorts of things. I am not a one trick pony. I'm not, either, but I do know when to call in an expert. We recently had a gas fireplace installed in our master bedroom. I contracted with a master plumber, a union member, with a license, to handle extending the gas line and handling the hookups, and we contracted with a fireplace company to handle the carpentry. The job was inspected by the county. I suppose I could have saved some bucks by contracting with a tiki bar builder, but... then I'd be worried about the damned thing exploding because he would have taken a dangerous shortcut to save $10.00. You got a union plumber out there to hook up a gas line for $10. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/16 11:11 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:56:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 2:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:28:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars. Certainly good money in not paying other people to do all sorts of things. I am not a one trick pony. I'm not, either, but I do know when to call in an expert. We recently had a gas fireplace installed in our master bedroom. I contracted with a master plumber, a union member, with a license, to handle extending the gas line and handling the hookups, and we contracted with a fireplace company to handle the carpentry. The job was inspected by the county. I suppose I could have saved some bucks by contracting with a tiki bar builder, but... then I'd be worried about the damned thing exploding because he would have taken a dangerous shortcut to save $10.00. You got a union plumber out there to hook up a gas line for $10. Oh, this wasn't a tiki bar installation...there was quite a bit involved. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a home. Putting it simply, you are a loser Krauster. Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold? You haven't been cleared for that sort of information. Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are. It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/8/16 8:43 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a home. Putting it simply, you are a loser Krauster. Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold? You haven't been cleared for that sort of information. Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are. It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY Responding to a question about what your wife did for a living before she retired is not giving out personal information, but, of course, you are too stupid to understand that. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 06:05:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:11 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:56:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 2:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:28:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars. Certainly good money in not paying other people to do all sorts of things. I am not a one trick pony. I'm not, either, but I do know when to call in an expert. We recently had a gas fireplace installed in our master bedroom. I contracted with a master plumber, a union member, with a license, to handle extending the gas line and handling the hookups, and we contracted with a fireplace company to handle the carpentry. The job was inspected by the county. I suppose I could have saved some bucks by contracting with a tiki bar builder, but... then I'd be worried about the damned thing exploding because he would have taken a dangerous shortcut to save $10.00. You got a union plumber out there to hook up a gas line for $10. Oh, this wasn't a tiki bar installation...there was quite a bit involved. .... and all of that for $10 It is what you said. BTW the "tiki bar" was more complicated than you assume too. It involved 2.5 yards of concrete, lots of steel, pilings, walls, a roof, 220 sq/ft of Ipe deck, flagstone, electrical along with actually building the bar, cutting and polishing a granite top. Your fireplace was about as complicated as installing my pool heater and I did pay to have that gas hooked up but it was more than $10, a lot more. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/8/16 10:54 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 06:05:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:11 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:56:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 2:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:28:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars. Certainly good money in not paying other people to do all sorts of things. I am not a one trick pony. I'm not, either, but I do know when to call in an expert. We recently had a gas fireplace installed in our master bedroom. I contracted with a master plumber, a union member, with a license, to handle extending the gas line and handling the hookups, and we contracted with a fireplace company to handle the carpentry. The job was inspected by the county. I suppose I could have saved some bucks by contracting with a tiki bar builder, but... then I'd be worried about the damned thing exploding because he would have taken a dangerous shortcut to save $10.00. You got a union plumber out there to hook up a gas line for $10. Oh, this wasn't a tiki bar installation...there was quite a bit involved. ... and all of that for $10 It is what you said. BTW the "tiki bar" was more complicated than you assume too. It involved 2.5 yards of concrete, lots of steel, pilings, walls, a roof, 220 sq/ft of Ipe deck, flagstone, electrical along with actually building the bar, cutting and polishing a granite top. Your fireplace was about as complicated as installing my pool heater and I did pay to have that gas hooked up but it was more than $10, a lot more. No, I didn't say that. I said a tiki bar installer would have taken a dangerous shortcut to save $10. You have no idea of how complicated or uncomplicated the fireplace install here was. |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:00:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/8/16 10:54 AM, wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 06:05:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:11 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:56:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 2:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:28:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars. Certainly good money in not paying other people to do all sorts of things. I am not a one trick pony. I'm not, either, but I do know when to call in an expert. We recently had a gas fireplace installed in our master bedroom. I contracted with a master plumber, a union member, with a license, to handle extending the gas line and handling the hookups, and we contracted with a fireplace company to handle the carpentry. The job was inspected by the county. I suppose I could have saved some bucks by contracting with a tiki bar builder, but... then I'd be worried about the damned thing exploding because he would have taken a dangerous shortcut to save $10.00. You got a union plumber out there to hook up a gas line for $10. Oh, this wasn't a tiki bar installation...there was quite a bit involved. ... and all of that for $10 It is what you said. BTW the "tiki bar" was more complicated than you assume too. It involved 2.5 yards of concrete, lots of steel, pilings, walls, a roof, 220 sq/ft of Ipe deck, flagstone, electrical along with actually building the bar, cutting and polishing a granite top. Your fireplace was about as complicated as installing my pool heater and I did pay to have that gas hooked up but it was more than $10, a lot more. No, I didn't say that. I said a tiki bar installer would have taken a dangerous shortcut to save $10. You have no idea of how complicated or uncomplicated the fireplace install here was. There is that $10 again. What $10 are you talking about if it was not having a licensed guy hooking up the gas? Admit it Harry, you used a silly statement to demonstrate you lack of interest in doing anything yourself and now you are stuck with it. Why not just say it was a figure of speech? |
Government shuts down ITT Tech
On 9/8/2016 10:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/8/16 8:43 AM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: Why would I want Navy electronics training? I know, it is a science, you are an artist. I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes. As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy electronics training? I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn in 6 weeks, go for it. Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense Why is learning things faster anti intellectual? It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator and call it being intellectual. How is that right? It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing. Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and if you can't keep up, you get kicked out. Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me and my private school was barely holding my attention. Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will ace your test. Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than by rote. Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and you do not get that in school . . . Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took. I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student loans are being repaid. Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump. Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr. You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold? Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a home. Putting it simply, you are a loser Krauster. Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold? You haven't been cleared for that sort of information. Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are. It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY Responding to a question about what your wife did for a living before she retired is not giving out personal information, but, of course, you are too stupid to understand that. No, unlike you he is smart enough not to provide you with information you don't need. You don't have a "need to know". |
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