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was rident, now ants.
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 10:53:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 8:09:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:46:13 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Someone else must have gotten the rat...no sign of him for a couple of months. Trust me, he is still around, with plenty of friends. There is a formula for rats. If you see one at night, you have a bunch. If you see one in the daytime, you have a ****load. Rats are tough and it is real hard to get rid of them. I haven't seen a Rattus norvegicus here but we have lots of Rattus rattus (AKA roof rats, tree rats, fruit rats or "palmetto" squirrels). I know better than to think I can eliminate them but I do keep a bait station in the boat house. Based on the bait I go through, there must be a lot of dead ones somewhere ... or they have developed an immunity to it. I have had them chewing up the boat wiring from time to time. If one gets into the console, it is a mess. The last time it was my fault. I did not have the door closed tight and it popped open. I have also had them hiding on the boat and Mr Ed flushes them out. That is exciting until they jump in the water. A rat running around being chased by a 112 pound dog. Auggie Doggie was better at it. Occasionally he could catch it, kill it and bring it to you. Louie (the dachshund mix) was deadly on them. If they didn't get overboard right away they were dead. On the old farm place I run though a lot of bait too. concerning immunity yes I suppose it can happen. I switch brands ever so often for that possibility. If they eat enough to seriously stress the population, they will simply stop eating it. I am running into that problem with ants as we speak. I have "crazy ants" in the house now and these are crazier than most. I don't ever see them eating anything so baiting is not an option. Perimeter sprays really only do so much and I really think they are living under the slab. I don't see then outside anywhere and I have sprayed the outside around the house. These guys are really strange. They actually run and hide from you. They act more like German roaches than ants. If you turn the lights on you see some but in a few seconds they all disappear. I saw them in a doughnut box and I thought I had them but they were not eating the doughnuts, they were just hiding in the box. I left one out on the counter all day and they never touched it. If I can find out what they will eat, I can get them. So far, no joy. I am working on trying to get every penetration in the slab but that is tough since some are inside the walls, not really near anything I can get to. They will just pop up somewhere else if you can't kill the queen anyway. This is the longest I have ever gone without figuring out what my ants eat and baiting them. It has been over 20 years since I found a commercial bait that they would touch. I also have not seen a sugar eating ant in about that long. These guys can get very selective. The last time I saw an ant eating anything, it was a dead bug and I think the poison that killed the bug, killed them so now they don't eat dead bugs. I guess that is how they survived a few million years. Greg I might be mistaken but that almost sounds like termites. |
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#12
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 21:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 10:53:52 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 8:09:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:46:13 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Someone else must have gotten the rat...no sign of him for a couple of months. Trust me, he is still around, with plenty of friends. There is a formula for rats. If you see one at night, you have a bunch. If you see one in the daytime, you have a ****load. Rats are tough and it is real hard to get rid of them. I haven't seen a Rattus norvegicus here but we have lots of Rattus rattus (AKA roof rats, tree rats, fruit rats or "palmetto" squirrels). I know better than to think I can eliminate them but I do keep a bait station in the boat house. Based on the bait I go through, there must be a lot of dead ones somewhere ... or they have developed an immunity to it. I have had them chewing up the boat wiring from time to time. If one gets into the console, it is a mess. The last time it was my fault. I did not have the door closed tight and it popped open. I have also had them hiding on the boat and Mr Ed flushes them out. That is exciting until they jump in the water. A rat running around being chased by a 112 pound dog. Auggie Doggie was better at it. Occasionally he could catch it, kill it and bring it to you. Louie (the dachshund mix) was deadly on them. If they didn't get overboard right away they were dead. On the old farm place I run though a lot of bait too. concerning immunity yes I suppose it can happen. I switch brands ever so often for that possibility. If they eat enough to seriously stress the population, they will simply stop eating it. I am running into that problem with ants as we speak. I have "crazy ants" in the house now and these are crazier than most. I don't ever see them eating anything so baiting is not an option. Perimeter sprays really only do so much and I really think they are living under the slab. I don't see then outside anywhere and I have sprayed the outside around the house. These guys are really strange. They actually run and hide from you. They act more like German roaches than ants. If you turn the lights on you see some but in a few seconds they all disappear. I saw them in a doughnut box and I thought I had them but they were not eating the doughnuts, they were just hiding in the box. I left one out on the counter all day and they never touched it. If I can find out what they will eat, I can get them. So far, no joy. I am working on trying to get every penetration in the slab but that is tough since some are inside the walls, not really near anything I can get to. They will just pop up somewhere else if you can't kill the queen anyway. This is the longest I have ever gone without figuring out what my ants eat and baiting them. It has been over 20 years since I found a commercial bait that they would touch. I also have not seen a sugar eating ant in about that long. These guys can get very selective. The last time I saw an ant eating anything, it was a dead bug and I think the poison that killed the bug, killed them so now they don't eat dead bugs. I guess that is how they survived a few million years. Greg I might be mistaken but that almost sounds like termites. No they are certainly ants. I wound get you a picture but I can't find one right now. Maybe the last pass of bifen has slowed them down for a while. I hit them pretty hard this evening. |
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#14
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - "If they eat enough to seriously stress the population, they will simply stop eating it. I am running into that problem with ants as we speak. I have "crazy ants" in the house now and these are crazier than most. I don't ever see them eating anything so baiting is not an option. Perimeter sprays really only do so much and I really think they are living under the slab. I don't see then outside anywhere and I have sprayed the outside around the house. These guys are really strange. They actually run and hide from you. They act more like German roaches than ants. If you turn the lights on you see some but in a few seconds they all disappear. I saw them in a doughnut box and I thought I had them but they were not eating the doughnuts, they were just hiding in the box. I left one out on the counter all day and they never touched it. If I can find out what they will eat, I can get them. So far, no joy. I am working on trying to get every penetration in the slab but that is tough since some are inside the walls, not really near anything I can get to. They will just pop up somewhere else if you can't kill the queen anyway. This is the longest I have ever gone without figuring out what my ants eat and baiting them. It has been over 20 years since I found a commercial bait that they would touch. I also have not seen a sugar eating ant in about that long. These guys can get very selective. The last time I saw an ant eating anything, it was a dead bug and I think the poison that killed the bug, killed them so now they don't eat dead bugs. I guess that is how they survived a few million years." Our curse is fire ants. Trouble with living in a major port is that critters hitch hike here from all over. These ants only infest certain blocks and mine is one for the last dozen years where the people across the street don't have them. The experts claim you can trace their progress from the Northend container pier to the southern. Very hard to kill off due to multiple queens. |
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#15
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was rident, now ants.
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 7:46:13 AM UTC-4, True North wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - "If they eat enough to seriously stress the population, they will simply stop eating it. I am running into that problem with ants as we speak. I have "crazy ants" in the house now and these are crazier than most. I don't ever see them eating anything so baiting is not an option. Perimeter sprays really only do so much and I really think they are living under the slab. I don't see then outside anywhere and I have sprayed the outside around the house. These guys are really strange. They actually run and hide from you. They act more like German roaches than ants. If you turn the lights on you see some but in a few seconds they all disappear. I saw them in a doughnut box and I thought I had them but they were not eating the doughnuts, they were just hiding in the box. I left one out on the counter all day and they never touched it. If I can find out what they will eat, I can get them. So far, no joy. I am working on trying to get every penetration in the slab but that is tough since some are inside the walls, not really near anything I can get to. They will just pop up somewhere else if you can't kill the queen anyway. This is the longest I have ever gone without figuring out what my ants eat and baiting them. It has been over 20 years since I found a commercial bait that they would touch. I also have not seen a sugar eating ant in about that long. These guys can get very selective. The last time I saw an ant eating anything, it was a dead bug and I think the poison that killed the bug, killed them so now they don't eat dead bugs. I guess that is how they survived a few million years." Our curse is fire ants. Trouble with living in a major port is that critters hitch hike here from all over. These ants only infest certain blocks and mine is one for the last dozen years where the people across the street don't have them. The experts claim you can trace their progress from the Northend container pier to the southern. Very hard to kill off due to multiple queens. Ortho Orthene is the best stuff I've found for killing fire ants. Don't know if you can get it up there. Unlike the stuff like Amdro, it doesn't even warn you to not disturb the mound when you apply. But we're not infested, just have an occasional mound pop up. I don't think they like our heavy clay soil. |
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#16
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was rident, now ants.
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 04:46:07 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - "If they eat enough to seriously stress the population, they will simply stop eating it. I am running into that problem with ants as we speak. I have "crazy ants" in the house now and these are crazier than most. I don't ever see them eating anything so baiting is not an option. Perimeter sprays really only do so much and I really think they are living under the slab. I don't see then outside anywhere and I have sprayed the outside around the house. These guys are really strange. They actually run and hide from you. They act more like German roaches than ants. If you turn the lights on you see some but in a few seconds they all disappear. I saw them in a doughnut box and I thought I had them but they were not eating the doughnuts, they were just hiding in the box. I left one out on the counter all day and they never touched it. If I can find out what they will eat, I can get them. So far, no joy. I am working on trying to get every penetration in the slab but that is tough since some are inside the walls, not really near anything I can get to. They will just pop up somewhere else if you can't kill the queen anyway. This is the longest I have ever gone without figuring out what my ants eat and baiting them. It has been over 20 years since I found a commercial bait that they would touch. I also have not seen a sugar eating ant in about that long. These guys can get very selective. The last time I saw an ant eating anything, it was a dead bug and I think the poison that killed the bug, killed them so now they don't eat dead bugs. I guess that is how they survived a few million years." Our curse is fire ants. Trouble with living in a major port is that critters hitch hike here from all over. These ants only infest certain blocks and mine is one for the last dozen years where the people across the street don't have them. The experts claim you can trace their progress from the Northend container pier to the southern. Very hard to kill off due to multiple queens. My ant problems started when I killed all the fire ants. They were holding down the rest of them and they stayed outside., The ants that replaced them come inside. |
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#17
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was rodent, now ants.
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:46:25 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 7:46:13 AM UTC-4, True North wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - "If they eat enough to seriously stress the population, they will simply stop eating it. I am running into that problem with ants as we speak. I have "crazy ants" in the house now and these are crazier than most. I don't ever see them eating anything so baiting is not an option. Perimeter sprays really only do so much and I really think they are living under the slab. I don't see then outside anywhere and I have sprayed the outside around the house. These guys are really strange. They actually run and hide from you. They act more like German roaches than ants. If you turn the lights on you see some but in a few seconds they all disappear. I saw them in a doughnut box and I thought I had them but they were not eating the doughnuts, they were just hiding in the box. I left one out on the counter all day and they never touched it. If I can find out what they will eat, I can get them. So far, no joy. I am working on trying to get every penetration in the slab but that is tough since some are inside the walls, not really near anything I can get to. They will just pop up somewhere else if you can't kill the queen anyway. This is the longest I have ever gone without figuring out what my ants eat and baiting them. It has been over 20 years since I found a commercial bait that they would touch. I also have not seen a sugar eating ant in about that long. These guys can get very selective. The last time I saw an ant eating anything, it was a dead bug and I think the poison that killed the bug, killed them so now they don't eat dead bugs. I guess that is how they survived a few million years." Our curse is fire ants. Trouble with living in a major port is that critters hitch hike here from all over. These ants only infest certain blocks and mine is one for the last dozen years where the people across the street don't have them. The experts claim you can trace their progress from the Northend container pier to the southern. Very hard to kill off due to multiple queens. Ortho Orthene is the best stuff I've found for killing fire ants. Don't know if you can get it up there. Unlike the stuff like Amdro, it doesn't even warn you to not disturb the mound when you apply. But we're not infested, just have an occasional mound pop up. I don't think they like our heavy clay soil. Orthene was what I used on the fire ants here but the ants I have now don't have mounds to treat. I think they live under concrete slabs and just pop up through any available penetration or crack. I never see a mound and treating the edges and penetrations just moves them around. I am using bifen now, based on advice from the home repair NG. Lambda-Cyhalothrin based stuff was pretty good but I guess somebody decided it was too good because HD/Lowes doesn't sell it anymore here. |
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#18
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YTD rodent count
Tim Wrote in message:
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 8:09:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:46:13 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Someone else must have gotten the rat...no sign of him for a couple of months. Trust me, he is still around, with plenty of friends. There is a formula for rats. If you see one at night, you have a bunch. If you see one in the daytime, you have a ****load. Rats are tough and it is real hard to get rid of them. I haven't seen a Rattus norvegicus here but we have lots of Rattus rattus (AKA roof rats, tree rats, fruit rats or "palmetto" squirrels). I know better than to think I can eliminate them but I do keep a bait station in the boat house. Based on the bait I go through, there must be a lot of dead ones somewhere ... or they have developed an immunity to it. I have had them chewing up the boat wiring from time to time. If one gets into the console, it is a mess. The last time it was my fault. I did not have the door closed tight and it popped open. I have also had them hiding on the boat and Mr Ed flushes them out. That is exciting until they jump in the water. A rat running around being chased by a 112 pound dog. Auggie Doggie was better at it. Occasionally he could catch it, kill it and bring it to you. Louie (the dachshund mix) was deadly on them. If they didn't get overboard right away they were dead. On the old farm place I run though a lot of bait too. concerning immunity yes I suppose it can happen. I switch brands ever so often for that possibility. There's no immunity from a snap trap. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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True North Wrote in message:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - "If they eat enough to seriously stress the population, they will simply stop eating it. I am running into that problem with ants as we speak. I have "crazy ants" in the house now and these are crazier than most. I don't ever see them eating anything so baiting is not an option. Perimeter sprays really only do so much and I really think they are living under the slab. I don't see then outside anywhere and I have sprayed the outside around the house. These guys are really strange. They actually run and hide from you. They act more like German roaches than ants. If you turn the lights on you see some but in a few seconds they all disappear. I saw them in a doughnut box and I thought I had them but they were not eating the doughnuts, they were just hiding in the box. I left one out on the counter all day and they never touched it. If I can find out what they will eat, I can get them. So far, no joy. I am working on trying to get every penetration in the slab but that is tough since some are inside the walls, not really near anything I can get to. They will just pop up somewhere else if you can't kill the queen anyway. This is the longest I have ever gone without figuring out what my ants eat and baiting them. It has been over 20 years since I found a commercial bait that they would touch. I also have not seen a sugar eating ant in about that long. These guys can get very selective. The last time I saw an ant eating anything, it was a dead bug and I think the poison that killed the bug, killed them so now they don't eat dead bugs. I guess that is how they survived a few million years." Our curse is fire ants. Trouble with living in a major port is that critters hitch hike here from all over. These ants only infest certain blocks and mine is one for the last dozen years where the people across the street don't have them. The experts claim you can trace their progress from the Northend container pier to the southern. Very hard to kill off due to multiple queens. Florida fire ants in Kanada? They must have lost their way. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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