5:52 AMTrue North

"Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war."
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I can believe it.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:10:36 -0500, Califbill
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 23:06:18 -0500, Califbill
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My buddy bought one of those about 55 years ago. Then he found out he had
trouble getting the 303 ammo.

It is around now but you are probably getting it online.


I think it was early in the import tim. He probably paid $6-8 for it. And
maybe only a gun shops had the a,mo stocked. $6-8 sounds cheap, but
minimum wage was $0,74 to a buck then. I think I paid $50 or so for my
Ithaca mxl 37 20 ga in 1970. monkeying.ward, and the guy tossed in a box
of shells. No waiting period on long guns then.

Ye Olde Hunter (Interarmco) had SMLEs on sale for about $15-20 in
1965-66 but the uncircumcised look was a little strange for American
tastes. You could get the ammo there too but I think it was Boer War
surplus. (actually WWII but pretty ugly)
They also sold an assortment of other old military surplus rifles for
as little as $5 but you really had to be careful that it was not some
obscure caliber.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North
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I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working.
Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds, including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war.


I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried
up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think
there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk
guys.
The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago.

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I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried
up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think
there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk
guys.
The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago.
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The .303 is still standard for the ancient and accepted Lewis gun which is still in the queens arsenal since ww1. Hard to improve a hammer.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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10:23
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I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried
up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think
there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk
guys.
The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago.
....

The .303 is still standard for the ancient and accepted Lewis gun which is still in the queens arsenal since ww1. Hard to improve a hammer.

In the days of belt fed machine guns I find it hard to believe a Lewis
is actually taken seriously. I could understand it in WWII when
anything that went bang was needed but now, just the logistics would
be a nightmare. That is one reason why NATO tried to standardize down
to 4 basic calibers.

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working.
Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds,
including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war.


I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried
up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think
there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk
guys.
The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago.


Except for the powder, could be a great mining opportunity in the Harbour.
The value of brass and lead.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:04:14 -0500, Califbill
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working.
Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds,
including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war.


I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried
up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think
there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk
guys.
The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago.


Except for the powder, could be a great mining opportunity in the Harbour.
The value of brass and lead.

I doubt the value of the metal would mitigate the dangers of 70 year
old cordite and dealing with the marine fouling.

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:04:14 -0500, Califbill
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:52:51 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I'm sorry I sold my 'sport' model 303 rifle for $20.00 back when I was working.
Ammo was easy to get. Old timers used to say millions of rounds,
including tracers, were dumped into the harbour after the 2nd world war.


I think the problem started when the last of the WWII surplus dried
up. There are still plenty of companies loading .303 but I don't think
there is much that is cheap, It is .75 to a buck a round at the bulk
guys.
The Brits went to the NATO calibers decades ago.


Except for the powder, could be a great mining opportunity in the Harbour.
The value of brass and lead.

I doubt the value of the metal would mitigate the dangers of 70 year
old cordite and dealing with the marine fouling.


The cordite could be a basis for good fertilizer. Auto feeder, to an
underwater cutter. Then wet cordite. Lots of nitrates. So all parts
sellable.

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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In the days of belt fed machine guns I find it hard to believe a Lewis
is actually taken seriously. I could understand it in WWII when
anything that went bang was needed but now, just the logistics would
be a nightmare. That is one reason why NATO tried to standardize down
to 4 basic calibers.
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Think British, man. Think British!

I can't say it truly is in the queens arsenal today, though it might be in reserves, but the Lewis showed its head at the Fauklands a few years ago.

On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:26:40 -0400, Alex wrote:

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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:04:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
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Supposed to be in production later this year, a Henry lever action rifle
in .308 (and several other calibers) with a box magazine instead of a
tube magazine. Why? Because you really don't want a tubular magazine
with "pointy" bullets.

Prototypes on display at major shows.
Strange hybrid I suppose.
I doubt you will like the recoil of a .308 in a locked breech gun
which is that light.


No kidding. My .30-.30 is a beast. My 12ga is easier on the shoulder!

Took the Mosin Nagant to the range this past week. Put 20 rounds through it. Yes, my shoulder was a
bit sore, and I was holding that stock very tightly against it.