On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/10/16 6:12 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 10:46:18 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 5/6/2016 10:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/6/16 10:08 AM, wrote:

I suppose it has to be pointed out that we fought the wars we had
before the 80s with drafted men. That was a very non selective
process. Granted, they didn't want Harry but usually the only
requirement was a reasonably healthy guy.


"They" didn't want most men of the appropriate age group. A very small
percentage got the letter to report for a physical. And from what I've
noticed among several of those here who "served," the standards had to
have been pretty low for mental abilities, which makes perfect
sense...how smart do you have to be to stop a bullet in a war against
people who were no threat to the United States?

From the keyboard of a chicken.

Amen.
--


It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were
too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even
a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student
could pay his or her way with part time and summer job.

I suppose I could have found a way to chicken out.
--

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On 5/10/16 8:29 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/10/16 6:12 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 10:46:18 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 5/6/2016 10:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/6/16 10:08 AM, wrote:

I suppose it has to be pointed out that we fought the wars we had
before the 80s with drafted men. That was a very non selective
process. Granted, they didn't want Harry but usually the only
requirement was a reasonably healthy guy.


"They" didn't want most men of the appropriate age group. A very small
percentage got the letter to report for a physical. And from what I've
noticed among several of those here who "served," the standards had to
have been pretty low for mental abilities, which makes perfect
sense...how smart do you have to be to stop a bullet in a war against
people who were no threat to the United States?

From the keyboard of a chicken.

Amen.
--


It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were
too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even
a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student
could pay his or her way with part time and summer job.

I suppose I could have found a way to chicken out.
--


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would
be defaming a famous democrat.
In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was
saying
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3

The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft
Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I
wanted something more interesting.
I was hoping for a Florida life boat station.

On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would
be defaming a famous democrat.
In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was
saying
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3

The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft
Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I
wanted something more interesting.
I was hoping for a Florida life boat station.


Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you
could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle
fodder. So...you were a draft dodger.

Harry you say Greg joined the CG to avoid viet nam? Therefore being a "draft dodger?"

That's really ridiculous thinking. No branch was immune to in-country service. He could have been called up anytime.

http://www.uscg.mil/history/uscghist...otoindex_d.asp

On 5/11/2016 8:07 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would
be defaming a famous democrat.
In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was
saying
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3

The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft
Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I
wanted something more interesting.
I was hoping for a Florida life boat station.


Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you
could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle
fodder. So...you were a draft dodger.

Nice try pussy.

On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:07:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would
be defaming a famous democrat.
In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was
saying
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3

The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft
Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I
wanted something more interesting.
I was hoping for a Florida life boat station.


Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you
could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle
fodder. So...you were a draft dodger.

That is not right at all. Remember, LBJ just told us he was not going
to send American boys off to war. It was the days of the "Elvis and
Sgt Bilko" army.
I tried to go to Vietnam twice on 1965. (Navy PBRs and GC 83 footers)
Both times the request was denied.

On 5/11/16 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:07:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would
be defaming a famous democrat.
In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was
saying
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3

The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft
Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I
wanted something more interesting.
I was hoping for a Florida life boat station.


Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you
could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle
fodder. So...you were a draft dodger.

That is not right at all. Remember, LBJ just told us he was not going
to send American boys off to war. It was the days of the "Elvis and
Sgt Bilko" army.
I tried to go to Vietnam twice on 1965. (Navy PBRs and GC 83 footers)
Both times the request was denied.


Why did you want to go to Vietnam? Do you think the North Vietnamese
posed any threat to the United States? Did you want to prop up the
dictatorship in South Vietnam? Were you hoping to shag Jane Fonda? (I
would have if I had had the opportunity.)

On Wed, 11 May 2016 12:47:48 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/11/16 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:07:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would
be defaming a famous democrat.
In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was
saying
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3

The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft
Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I
wanted something more interesting.
I was hoping for a Florida life boat station.


Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you
could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle
fodder. So...you were a draft dodger.

That is not right at all. Remember, LBJ just told us he was not going
to send American boys off to war. It was the days of the "Elvis and
Sgt Bilko" army.
I tried to go to Vietnam twice on 1965. (Navy PBRs and GC 83 footers)
Both times the request was denied.


Why did you want to go to Vietnam? Do you think the North Vietnamese
posed any threat to the United States? Did you want to prop up the
dictatorship in South Vietnam? Were you hoping to shag Jane Fonda? (I
would have if I had had the opportunity.)

All I can say is "18 year old testosterone"
I had several friends there.
The idea of blasting up some little river on a PBR just seemed like
something that I wanted to do.
(the "Apocalypse Now" boat for the uninitiated)

On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/10/16 8:29 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/10/16 6:12 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2016 10:46:18 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 5/6/2016 10:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/6/16 10:08 AM, wrote:

I suppose it has to be pointed out that we fought the wars we had
before the 80s with drafted men. That was a very non selective
process. Granted, they didn't want Harry but usually the only
requirement was a reasonably healthy guy.


"They" didn't want most men of the appropriate age group. A very small
percentage got the letter to report for a physical. And from what I've
noticed among several of those here who "served," the standards had to
have been pretty low for mental abilities, which makes perfect
sense...how smart do you have to be to stop a bullet in a war against
people who were no threat to the United States?

From the keyboard of a chicken.

Amen.
--


It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were
too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even
a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student
could pay his or her way with part time and summer job.

I suppose I could have found a way to chicken out.
--


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

Yup, I could have chickened out.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!