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"K Smith" Too easy
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leggester
 
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Boy, you guys never quit! Amazing.

Poor old Harold still wants a communist government.

Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.

Still can't believe that we know "government" funding means more
socialism? We're on to that also you dick.
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Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.


Whose interests should the government represent, if not "the public"?

We need either:

1. A minimalist government that performs *only* those specific functions
outlined in the Constitution. Many people, (self included) would be just fine
with this, but our political system discourages it. The more aspects of life
the government can become invovled with, the more powerful and self
perpetuating a position in that government becomes.

OR....

2. We need a government that is not so blatantly for sale every few years. We
have a system where everybody just expects that the government is corrupt, and
a couple of parties squabbling over who gets the largest portion of the fruits
of that corruption. The upper classes and capital
like some of the ways that one party pulls milk from the corrupt government
udder, while the middle classes and labor more predictably prefer the methods
of the other party. If we're going to have government screwing with every
aspect of our lives, it should be doing so impartially- but it makes no
pretense of being politically impartial and most likely never will.


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DSK
 
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Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.


heh heh who made this intelligent (NOT) remark?




Gould 0738 wrote:
Whose interests should the government represent, if not "the public"?


'zactly.


We need either:

1. A minimalist government that performs *only* those specific functions
outlined in the Constitution. Many people, (self included) would be just fine
with this, but our political system discourages it. The more aspects of life
the government can become invovled with, the more powerful and self
perpetuating a position in that government becomes.


Agreed, but there's a bit more to it than that. Nobody ever went to testify to
Congress that the gov't should spend LESS money on a given problem. There is
supposed to be a check & balance here in that voters can remove fiscally
irresponsible members of the gov't, but with the advent of mass media and
scientific advertising, people vote for whoever has the biggest campaign budget.



OR....

2. We need a government that is not so blatantly for sale every few years. We
have a system where everybody just expects that the government is corrupt


I disagree. Not everybody expects the U.S. gov't to be corrupt, nor the states, in
fact I'd suggest that by comparison to muchof the rest of the world, we have a
very low rate of corruption. And gov't officials do respond to the threat of
public exposure.

I suggest that what we need the most are slightly more intelligent voters (or
perhaps just better informed), with slightly longer memories.

Regards- Doug King

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"K Smith" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"K Smith" wrote in message
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China & Rkor are already starting the "demand" more & particularly
China will ultimately fail or dump communism, but whatever if the west's
market clought can raise their standards of living even just slightly
the market for the wests goods will be huge.



China!?! The country whose environmental regulation of industry is best
described as "What? Huh?" The country where people are put to death for
petty theft, unless their family is well connected? That China?


See Doug everything is relative. The environment is fine you only get
caught up in the crap because vested (usually unionist driven lefties)
drive it.


Here's a short story about Onondaga Lake in upstate NY, near Syracuse.
Please tell me how the facts are influenced by unions.

"Allied discharged an estimated 165,000 pounds of mercury into Onondaga Lake
from 1946 - 1970. After 1970, the mercury loading was greatly reduced with
the onset of new more stringent regulations. Another factor which assisted
in improving the lake's water quality was the closure of Allied-Signal Inc.'
s (Honeywell) Syracuse operations in 1986. With its closure, direct
discharges of mercury, chlorides and other contaminants from that operation
also ceased.

Scientists estimate that 7 million cubic yards of the lake sediments remain
contaminated. As a result, the lake bottom sediments are listed as a
hazardous waste site on the National Superfund List. Allied-Signal, Inc.
(Honeywell) is completing a series of mercury studies under the direction of
the State Department of Environmental Conservation and the State Attorney
General's office to identify the major on-going sources of mercury in the
lake system and recommend ways to eliminate contamination in the fish. The
ultimate solution to the mercury in the lake's ecosystem and sediments is
not known at this time."




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"leggester" wrote in message
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Boy, you guys never quit! Amazing.

Poor old Harold still wants a communist government.

Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.


Clue: Courtesy of you and I, the government sends troops anyplace an
American corporation might be threatened on an ongoing basis. Why shouldn't
the government pay its share of research into alternative energy?


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Jack Rye wrote:
"K Smith" Too easy
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Next time try giving less info.

Jack



He knows all that jack but he's a liar pure & simple denying what he's
(& a couple of others) have been privately told several times over many
years. But thanks for your effort & at least flushing him out (or down
as he should be). He's even looked up the same wrong stuff on Taipan before.

As I said I like to keep my privacy also (I'm not Taipan Pacific & you
should need a Co register search to find Taipan Marine Pty Ltd).

Note never any independently verifiable material from him.

Thanks again.

K

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What you fail to understand is. All I found out was that you have a US trade
mark. It doesn't mean a thing. You can't enforce the taipan trade mark.
For one thing it's a word in the dictionary. Which means you don't own it.
Two it's not original. You also submitted the artwork as typed so that
limits you ability to enforce Taipan. Basically your screwed. With no
recourse at all. So basically you spent your $$$. Big deal, you just have
a unenforceable mark. I never found a company that builds boats or boat
engines either. So what ever you think you got, good luck.

BTW don't slam the door when your glass house has a gapping crack.

As to Harry I really don't care what you think about him. So don't go away
mad just go away.

Also remember this. Clean environment means fewer health related sickness.

Jack

"K Smith" wrote in message
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Jack Rye wrote:
"K Smith" Too easy
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Next time try giving less info.

Jack



He knows all that jack but he's a liar pure & simple denying what he's
(& a couple of others) have been privately told several times over many
years. But thanks for your effort & at least flushing him out (or down
as he should be). He's even looked up the same wrong stuff on Taipan

before.

As I said I like to keep my privacy also (I'm not Taipan Pacific & you
should need a Co register search to find Taipan Marine Pty Ltd).

Note never any independently verifiable material from him.

Thanks again.

K



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Thanks George Bush Sr. for this problem. Nothing better than a glass of
water that tastes like turpentine. How's your buddies in the oil business.
Still against alcohol to oxygenate the fuel.

A recent report from the Environmental Working Group found that MTBE
contamination is present in the drinking water supplies for over 15 million
Americans.

MTBE has been classified as an animal carcinogen with potential human
carcinogenic hazard potential by the US EPA .

MTBE in Drinking Water Sources

MTBE has been found in test samples of source water or finished drinking
water from 1,515 public water systems in 28 states.1

An increasing number of studies have detected MTBE in ground water
throughout the country; in some instances these contaminated waters are
sources of drinking water. Low levels of MTBE can make drinking water
supplies undrinkable due to its offensive turpentine-like taste and odor.

Contamination of drinking water sources can occur from:

a.. leaking underground storage tanks (UST's) and above ground fuel
storage tanks
b.. pipelines
c.. refueling spills
d.. automobile accidents damaging the fuel tank
e.. consumer disposal of "old" gasoline"
f.. emissions from older marine engines
And to a lesser degree:

a.. storm water runoff
b.. precipitation mixed with MTBE in the air
MTBE dissolves easily in water and does not "cling" well to soil, allowing
it to migrate faster and farther in the ground than other gasoline
components, and more likely to contaminate public water systems and private
drinking water wells. MTBE does not degrade (breakdown) easily and is
difficult and costly to remove from ground water.

MTBE is generally more resistant to natural biodegradation than other
gasoline components. Some monitoring wells have shown little overall
reduction in MTBE concentration over several years which suggests that MTBE
is relatively persistent in ground water. In contrast, studies of surface
water (lakes and reservoirs have shown that MTBE volatilizes (evaporates)
relatively quickly.

Sources:

1 "More Trouble with MTBE in Drinking Water". Environmental Working Group.
October 2003

As if the environment can cope with all the pollution. Let alone us humans.

Jack

"Sir Spamalot" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:24:21 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


To see the Apollo proposal for yourself, check out

www.apolloalliance.org.



I was curious about this, until I saw the hydrogen fuel stuff. What
idiots!!

We are already sitting on millions and millions of gallons of
renewable energy - dirt and farmers. And we are already paying them
**not** to grow some of the stuff they grow (but that's yet another
issue).

Think biofuels people. Think.

We grow it - no foreign oil to import.

It burns cleaner than dino oil, and some even think it smells
good.

The technology is here, today. No investment required.

The distribution is here, today. Same in-the-ground tanks, same
pumps, same tankers to transport, same overland pipes.

Just how do you think you are going to transport that explosive
hydrogen? Remember the Hindenburg? (I don't - not that old)

I don't want to get rear-ended in a hydrogen fueled car. Do You?

Bio-fuels, specifically biodiesel, is much much safer than
hydrogen. That's why many boaters run diesel engines - safety.

45-50MPG in today's diesel engines.

And on, and on,,,,,,,,,,,.

Hydrogen??? Dim-wits. A$%-kissing, idiot, ignorant politicians
jumping on yet another worthless bandwagon. But why not? It's not
their money.



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Maybe you should read up on bio-diesel. It ain't all it's cracked up to
be.


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