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Jack Rye October 27th 03 03:27 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 

"K Smith" Too easy
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INBOARD/OUTBOARD MOTORS
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 75565015
Filing Date October 6, 1998
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Published for Opposition October 31, 2000
Registration Number 2422589
Registration Date January 23, 2001
Owner (REGISTRANT) SMITH, KAREN ELIZABETH INDIVIDUAL AUSTRALIA 5
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Taipan Pacific Pty Ltd
409 St Kilda Rd Melbourne 3000
(03) 9866 3262


Smith K
5 Allaware Ave Croydon 3136
(03) 9725 3971

Next time try giving less info.

Jack



leggester October 27th 03 03:38 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Boy, you guys never quit! Amazing.

Poor old Harold still wants a communist government.

Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.

Still can't believe that we know "government" funding means more
socialism? We're on to that also you dick.

Gould 0738 October 27th 03 04:43 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.


Whose interests should the government represent, if not "the public"?

We need either:

1. A minimalist government that performs *only* those specific functions
outlined in the Constitution. Many people, (self included) would be just fine
with this, but our political system discourages it. The more aspects of life
the government can become invovled with, the more powerful and self
perpetuating a position in that government becomes.

OR....

2. We need a government that is not so blatantly for sale every few years. We
have a system where everybody just expects that the government is corrupt, and
a couple of parties squabbling over who gets the largest portion of the fruits
of that corruption. The upper classes and capital
like some of the ways that one party pulls milk from the corrupt government
udder, while the middle classes and labor more predictably prefer the methods
of the other party. If we're going to have government screwing with every
aspect of our lives, it should be doing so impartially- but it makes no
pretense of being politically impartial and most likely never will.



DSK October 27th 03 04:57 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.


heh heh who made this intelligent (NOT) remark?




Gould 0738 wrote:
Whose interests should the government represent, if not "the public"?


'zactly.


We need either:

1. A minimalist government that performs *only* those specific functions
outlined in the Constitution. Many people, (self included) would be just fine
with this, but our political system discourages it. The more aspects of life
the government can become invovled with, the more powerful and self
perpetuating a position in that government becomes.


Agreed, but there's a bit more to it than that. Nobody ever went to testify to
Congress that the gov't should spend LESS money on a given problem. There is
supposed to be a check & balance here in that voters can remove fiscally
irresponsible members of the gov't, but with the advent of mass media and
scientific advertising, people vote for whoever has the biggest campaign budget.



OR....

2. We need a government that is not so blatantly for sale every few years. We
have a system where everybody just expects that the government is corrupt


I disagree. Not everybody expects the U.S. gov't to be corrupt, nor the states, in
fact I'd suggest that by comparison to muchof the rest of the world, we have a
very low rate of corruption. And gov't officials do respond to the threat of
public exposure.

I suggest that what we need the most are slightly more intelligent voters (or
perhaps just better informed), with slightly longer memories.

Regards- Doug King


Doug Kanter October 27th 03 05:03 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
"K Smith" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:
"K Smith" wrote in message
...


China & Rkor are already starting the "demand" more & particularly
China will ultimately fail or dump communism, but whatever if the west's
market clought can raise their standards of living even just slightly
the market for the wests goods will be huge.



China!?! The country whose environmental regulation of industry is best
described as "What? Huh?" The country where people are put to death for
petty theft, unless their family is well connected? That China?


See Doug everything is relative. The environment is fine you only get
caught up in the crap because vested (usually unionist driven lefties)
drive it.


Here's a short story about Onondaga Lake in upstate NY, near Syracuse.
Please tell me how the facts are influenced by unions.

"Allied discharged an estimated 165,000 pounds of mercury into Onondaga Lake
from 1946 - 1970. After 1970, the mercury loading was greatly reduced with
the onset of new more stringent regulations. Another factor which assisted
in improving the lake's water quality was the closure of Allied-Signal Inc.'
s (Honeywell) Syracuse operations in 1986. With its closure, direct
discharges of mercury, chlorides and other contaminants from that operation
also ceased.

Scientists estimate that 7 million cubic yards of the lake sediments remain
contaminated. As a result, the lake bottom sediments are listed as a
hazardous waste site on the National Superfund List. Allied-Signal, Inc.
(Honeywell) is completing a series of mercury studies under the direction of
the State Department of Environmental Conservation and the State Attorney
General's office to identify the major on-going sources of mercury in the
lake system and recommend ways to eliminate contamination in the fish. The
ultimate solution to the mercury in the lake's ecosystem and sediments is
not known at this time."



Doug Kanter October 27th 03 05:05 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
"leggester" wrote in message
om...
Boy, you guys never quit! Amazing.

Poor old Harold still wants a communist government.

Why should the government support alternative energy research? That's
rightly in the perview of the public, not government.


Clue: Courtesy of you and I, the government sends troops anyplace an
American corporation might be threatened on an ongoing basis. Why shouldn't
the government pay its share of research into alternative energy?



K Smith October 27th 03 11:38 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Jack Rye wrote:
"K Smith" Too easy
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MOTORS AND ENGINES; BOAT INBOARD MOTORS; BOAT OUTBOARD MOTORS; BOAT
INBOARD/OUTBOARD MOTORS
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 75565015
Filing Date October 6, 1998
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Published for Opposition October 31, 2000
Registration Number 2422589
Registration Date January 23, 2001
Owner (REGISTRANT) SMITH, KAREN ELIZABETH INDIVIDUAL AUSTRALIA 5
ALLAWARE AVE. CROYDON, VICTORIA 3136 AUSTRALIA
Section 44 Indicator SECT44
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE



Taipan Pacific Pty Ltd
409 St Kilda Rd Melbourne 3000
(03) 9866 3262


Smith K
5 Allaware Ave Croydon 3136
(03) 9725 3971

Next time try giving less info.

Jack



He knows all that jack but he's a liar pure & simple denying what he's
(& a couple of others) have been privately told several times over many
years. But thanks for your effort & at least flushing him out (or down
as he should be). He's even looked up the same wrong stuff on Taipan before.

As I said I like to keep my privacy also (I'm not Taipan Pacific & you
should need a Co register search to find Taipan Marine Pty Ltd).

Note never any independently verifiable material from him.

Thanks again.

K


Jack Rye October 28th 03 01:12 AM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
What you fail to understand is. All I found out was that you have a US trade
mark. It doesn't mean a thing. You can't enforce the taipan trade mark.
For one thing it's a word in the dictionary. Which means you don't own it.
Two it's not original. You also submitted the artwork as typed so that
limits you ability to enforce Taipan. Basically your screwed. With no
recourse at all. So basically you spent your $$$. Big deal, you just have
a unenforceable mark. I never found a company that builds boats or boat
engines either. So what ever you think you got, good luck.

BTW don't slam the door when your glass house has a gapping crack.

As to Harry I really don't care what you think about him. So don't go away
mad just go away.

Also remember this. Clean environment means fewer health related sickness.

Jack

"K Smith" wrote in message
...
Jack Rye wrote:
"K Smith" Too easy
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Word Mark TAIPAN
Goods and Services IC 007. US 013 019 021 023 031 034 035. G & S:

BOAT
MOTORS AND ENGINES; BOAT INBOARD MOTORS; BOAT OUTBOARD MOTORS; BOAT
INBOARD/OUTBOARD MOTORS
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 75565015
Filing Date October 6, 1998
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Published for Opposition October 31, 2000
Registration Number 2422589
Registration Date January 23, 2001
Owner (REGISTRANT) SMITH, KAREN ELIZABETH INDIVIDUAL AUSTRALIA 5
ALLAWARE AVE. CROYDON, VICTORIA 3136 AUSTRALIA
Section 44 Indicator SECT44
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE



Taipan Pacific Pty Ltd
409 St Kilda Rd Melbourne 3000
(03) 9866 3262


Smith K
5 Allaware Ave Croydon 3136
(03) 9725 3971

Next time try giving less info.

Jack



He knows all that jack but he's a liar pure & simple denying what he's
(& a couple of others) have been privately told several times over many
years. But thanks for your effort & at least flushing him out (or down
as he should be). He's even looked up the same wrong stuff on Taipan

before.

As I said I like to keep my privacy also (I'm not Taipan Pacific & you
should need a Co register search to find Taipan Marine Pty Ltd).

Note never any independently verifiable material from him.

Thanks again.

K




Jack Rye October 28th 03 03:28 AM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Thanks George Bush Sr. for this problem. Nothing better than a glass of
water that tastes like turpentine. How's your buddies in the oil business.
Still against alcohol to oxygenate the fuel.

A recent report from the Environmental Working Group found that MTBE
contamination is present in the drinking water supplies for over 15 million
Americans.

MTBE has been classified as an animal carcinogen with potential human
carcinogenic hazard potential by the US EPA .

MTBE in Drinking Water Sources

MTBE has been found in test samples of source water or finished drinking
water from 1,515 public water systems in 28 states.1

An increasing number of studies have detected MTBE in ground water
throughout the country; in some instances these contaminated waters are
sources of drinking water. Low levels of MTBE can make drinking water
supplies undrinkable due to its offensive turpentine-like taste and odor.

Contamination of drinking water sources can occur from:

a.. leaking underground storage tanks (UST's) and above ground fuel
storage tanks
b.. pipelines
c.. refueling spills
d.. automobile accidents damaging the fuel tank
e.. consumer disposal of "old" gasoline"
f.. emissions from older marine engines
And to a lesser degree:

a.. storm water runoff
b.. precipitation mixed with MTBE in the air
MTBE dissolves easily in water and does not "cling" well to soil, allowing
it to migrate faster and farther in the ground than other gasoline
components, and more likely to contaminate public water systems and private
drinking water wells. MTBE does not degrade (breakdown) easily and is
difficult and costly to remove from ground water.

MTBE is generally more resistant to natural biodegradation than other
gasoline components. Some monitoring wells have shown little overall
reduction in MTBE concentration over several years which suggests that MTBE
is relatively persistent in ground water. In contrast, studies of surface
water (lakes and reservoirs have shown that MTBE volatilizes (evaporates)
relatively quickly.

Sources:

1 "More Trouble with MTBE in Drinking Water". Environmental Working Group.
October 2003

As if the environment can cope with all the pollution. Let alone us humans.

Jack

"Sir Spamalot" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:24:21 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


To see the Apollo proposal for yourself, check out

www.apolloalliance.org.



I was curious about this, until I saw the hydrogen fuel stuff. What
idiots!!

We are already sitting on millions and millions of gallons of
renewable energy - dirt and farmers. And we are already paying them
**not** to grow some of the stuff they grow (but that's yet another
issue).

Think biofuels people. Think.

We grow it - no foreign oil to import.

It burns cleaner than dino oil, and some even think it smells
good.

The technology is here, today. No investment required.

The distribution is here, today. Same in-the-ground tanks, same
pumps, same tankers to transport, same overland pipes.

Just how do you think you are going to transport that explosive
hydrogen? Remember the Hindenburg? (I don't - not that old)

I don't want to get rear-ended in a hydrogen fueled car. Do You?

Bio-fuels, specifically biodiesel, is much much safer than
hydrogen. That's why many boaters run diesel engines - safety.

45-50MPG in today's diesel engines.

And on, and on,,,,,,,,,,,.

Hydrogen??? Dim-wits. A$%-kissing, idiot, ignorant politicians
jumping on yet another worthless bandwagon. But why not? It's not
their money.



NOSPAM: Please remove "my" in "comcast" to reply.




Gould 0738 October 28th 03 06:14 AM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Maybe you should read up on bio-diesel. It ain't all it's cracked up to
be.


Cite?

Jack Rye October 28th 03 12:53 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
You waist of a human life. You really have no clue. lets take Budweiser
saying this buds for you. all the words are in the dictionary. the saying
this buds for you is not. it the property of Budweiser they have used it for
years in advertising campaigns. A flower shop opened in Texas had nothing
to do with beer. They called it this buds for you. Budweiser sued them for
using their intellectual property of the phrase. Budweiser won. This is
how you enforce a trade mark. You stupid waist of a human life. Keep going
around in circles . Sooner or later you will catch your tail.

Don't go a way mad just go away

Jack
"K Smith" wrote in message
...
Jack Rye wrote:
What you fail to understand is. All I found out was that you have a US

trade
mark. It doesn't mean a thing. You can't enforce the taipan trade mark.
For one thing it's a word in the dictionary. Which means you don't own

it.
Two it's not original. You also submitted the artwork as typed so that
limits you ability to enforce Taipan. Basically your screwed. With no
recourse at all. So basically you spent your $$$. Big deal, you just

have
a unenforceable mark. I never found a company that builds boats or boat
engines either. So what ever you think you got, good luck.

BTW don't slam the door when your glass house has a gapping crack.

As to Harry I really don't care what you think about him. So don't go

away
mad just go away.

Also remember this. Clean environment means fewer health related

sickness.

Dear dear dear Jack you're a jealous little greeny weany aren't you??
As for your understandings of IP they're as faulty as all your others.

I hope you tell all the other US trade mark holders, indeed tell the
entire not insubstantial US IP industry your views, particularly Ford
will be very upset about their mustang, falcon, cobra, & so on & on &
on. Gee now there's something you might have done with your life Jack
save wasting it on your socialist crusades, you can advise people like
Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota & on & on & on related to these matters. Why
don't you start by infringing one of them just to prove your point I'll
watch with interest; damn your work will never be done.



Best regards,

K

Jack

"K Smith" wrote in message
...

Jack Rye wrote:

"K Smith" Too easy
Typed Drawing




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Word Mark TAIPAN
Goods and Services IC 007. US 013 019 021 023 031 034 035. G & S:


BOAT

MOTORS AND ENGINES; BOAT INBOARD MOTORS; BOAT OUTBOARD MOTORS; BOAT
INBOARD/OUTBOARD MOTORS
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 75565015
Filing Date October 6, 1998
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Published for Opposition October 31, 2000
Registration Number 2422589
Registration Date January 23, 2001
Owner (REGISTRANT) SMITH, KAREN ELIZABETH INDIVIDUAL AUSTRALIA 5
ALLAWARE AVE. CROYDON, VICTORIA 3136 AUSTRALIA
Section 44 Indicator SECT44
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE



Taipan Pacific Pty Ltd
409 St Kilda Rd Melbourne 3000
(03) 9866 3262


Smith K
5 Allaware Ave Croydon 3136
(03) 9725 3971

Next time try giving less info.

Jack



He knows all that jack but he's a liar pure & simple denying what he's
(& a couple of others) have been privately told several times over many
years. But thanks for your effort & at least flushing him out (or down
as he should be). He's even looked up the same wrong stuff on Taipan


before.

As I said I like to keep my privacy also (I'm not Taipan Pacific & you
should need a Co register search to find Taipan Marine Pty Ltd).

Note never any independently verifiable material from him.

Thanks again.

K








K Smith October 28th 03 01:31 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Jack Rye wrote:
What you fail to understand is. All I found out was that you have a US trade
mark. It doesn't mean a thing. You can't enforce the taipan trade mark.
For one thing it's a word in the dictionary. Which means you don't own it.
Two it's not original. You also submitted the artwork as typed so that
limits you ability to enforce Taipan. Basically your screwed. With no
recourse at all. So basically you spent your $$$. Big deal, you just have
a unenforceable mark. I never found a company that builds boats or boat
engines either. So what ever you think you got, good luck.

BTW don't slam the door when your glass house has a gapping crack.

As to Harry I really don't care what you think about him. So don't go away
mad just go away.

Also remember this. Clean environment means fewer health related sickness.


Dear dear dear Jack you're a jealous little greeny weany aren't you??
As for your understandings of IP they're as faulty as all your others.

I hope you tell all the other US trade mark holders, indeed tell the
entire not insubstantial US IP industry your views, particularly Ford
will be very upset about their mustang, falcon, cobra, & so on & on &
on. Gee now there's something you might have done with your life Jack
save wasting it on your socialist crusades, you can advise people like
Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota & on & on & on related to these matters. Why
don't you start by infringing one of them just to prove your point I'll
watch with interest; damn your work will never be done.



Best regards,

K

Jack

"K Smith" wrote in message
...

Jack Rye wrote:

"K Smith" Too easy
Typed Drawing



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--

----
Word Mark TAIPAN
Goods and Services IC 007. US 013 019 021 023 031 034 035. G & S:


BOAT

MOTORS AND ENGINES; BOAT INBOARD MOTORS; BOAT OUTBOARD MOTORS; BOAT
INBOARD/OUTBOARD MOTORS
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 75565015
Filing Date October 6, 1998
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Published for Opposition October 31, 2000
Registration Number 2422589
Registration Date January 23, 2001
Owner (REGISTRANT) SMITH, KAREN ELIZABETH INDIVIDUAL AUSTRALIA 5
ALLAWARE AVE. CROYDON, VICTORIA 3136 AUSTRALIA
Section 44 Indicator SECT44
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE



Taipan Pacific Pty Ltd
409 St Kilda Rd Melbourne 3000
(03) 9866 3262


Smith K
5 Allaware Ave Croydon 3136
(03) 9725 3971

Next time try giving less info.

Jack



He knows all that jack but he's a liar pure & simple denying what he's
(& a couple of others) have been privately told several times over many
years. But thanks for your effort & at least flushing him out (or down
as he should be). He's even looked up the same wrong stuff on Taipan


before.

As I said I like to keep my privacy also (I'm not Taipan Pacific & you
should need a Co register search to find Taipan Marine Pty Ltd).

Note never any independently verifiable material from him.

Thanks again.

K






Lloyd Sumpter October 28th 03 08:59 PM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:24:21 +0000, Harry Krause wrote:



A BIG IDEA
By John Hightower

What if the White House and Congress were to do something sensible,
positive, visionary, and good for everyone, instead of ... well, you
know, the opposite of all of the above, as they've been doing?


This appears to be Typical North American concept: If Things are Going
Well, it's "The government is interfering too much with our lives!", but
if something Goes Wrong, it's "Why doesn't the Government DO something??"

If you want "energy independance", start at home. The average home "on the
grid" uses about 1.2 kw average (ie 30 kw-hrs per day) (This is in BC,
Canada. Donno about the rest of N.A, but I suspect it's at least this
much).The average home that's "off the grid" (ie uses solar, wind, etc. to
power the house) the figure is closer to 500 Watts (less than half!).

And we won't even GO INTO the blatant over-use of automobiles!

Lloyd

K Smith October 29th 03 10:56 AM

OT - Towards Energy Independence
 
Harry Krause wrote:
K Smith wrote:


Jack Rye wrote:

What you fail to understand is. All I found out was that you have a


US trade

mark. It doesn't mean a thing. You can't enforce the taipan trade mark.
For one thing it's a word in the dictionary. Which means you don't


own it.

Two it's not original. You also submitted the artwork as typed so that
limits you ability to enforce Taipan. Basically your screwed. With no
recourse at all. So basically you spent your $$$. Big deal, you


just have

a unenforceable mark. I never found a company that builds boats or boat
engines either. So what ever you think you got, good luck.

BTW don't slam the door when your glass house has a gapping crack.

As to Harry I really don't care what you think about him. So don't


go away

mad just go away.

Also remember this. Clean environment means fewer health related


sickness.

Dear dear dear Jack you're a jealous little greeny weany aren't you??
As for your understandings of IP they're as faulty as all your others.

I hope you tell all the other US trade mark holders, indeed tell the
entire not insubstantial US IP industry your views, particularly Ford
will be very upset about their mustang, falcon, cobra, & so on & on &
on. Gee now there's something you might have done with your life Jack
save wasting it on your socialist crusades, you can advise people like
Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota & on & on & on related to these matters. Why
don't you start by infringing one of them just to prove your point I'll
watch with interest; damn your work will never be done.




If some idiot wanted to, tomorrow morning she could come out with a line
of Taipan Toilet Tissue, or open a funhouse in Vegas called the Mustang
Ranch where Cobra beer might be sold.


I agree with that & there are many registrations of it, 18 in the US
but many more in Aus, however only one in my classes.


Your stupid little registered trademark of "Taipan" for a non-existent
outboard motor that will never be sold in the United States (or anywhere
else) is not relevant.


Deary me; non existent?? you've seen the pics. Alas you are just a liar
who cannot substantiate any of your lies. The ones about your father are
particularly grievous, this is the stuff of school yard bullies but for
a senior person to besmirch his memory with your infantile lies is
disgraceful; you should be ashamed, but of course you're not.


Stupid name for an outboard, anyway. Why would you name a product you
want to sell after an obscure Australian poisonous snake? It's not as if
you have the money, style and panache of Ford Motor Company and can
actually market a product named after an animal.


No; but what can I tell ya, Ficht just wasn't available & now not even
the French want it:-)


Go back to scrubbing floors in the outhouse, Ms. Smith. That's where you
peter-principled.


That's the lying sexist Harry we all know & hate.

K







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