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On 4/19/2016 8:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On 4/19/2016 7:35 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On 4/19/2016 12:44 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article FPKdnckyYI1-ZonKnZ2dnUU7- , says... According to you and BOA, there was only *one* reason for the Civil War ... slavery. I'm still waiting for your history text recomendations that say otherwise. I have no idea why you think the Civil War would have occurred but for slavery. It makes no sense. Maybe in searching for text to support your view, you will be enlightened. At least you haven't suggested that blacks were better off being enslaved, as did Greg. Rather than a book (that I doubt you would read) here's a couple of rational discussions on the conventional wisdom that the Civil War was just about slavery: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/slavery-and-the-civil-war_b_849066.html http://www.globalresearch.ca/falsifying-history-on-behalf-of-agendas-us-civil-war-was-about-money-not-slavery/5464841 I read these unconvincing arguments by a neurophysiologist and an economist. I prefer historians. One example: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military-jan-june11- civilwar_04-12/ But I can't tell you where to get your information. I never bought into other reasons for the war, because they go against facts. No, they go against what you read in Social Studies class in the sixth grade. That's very doubtful. Since I had sixth grade in the '50's, they were still spouting your rubbish "ideas." "Slavery" became the talking point issue but there were many more pressing reasons that 11 states elected to secede from the Union. The war was fought to prevent them from seceding. In those days state citizenship was much more important than being a citizen of the nation. The 11 southern states felt the federal government was becoming too intrusive and wanted no part of it. Abolitionism, led by the newly founded Republican Party was only one of many bitches. Lincoln himself was far from being a true abolitionist even though he led the Republican movement. Don't be obtuse. The legislatures of the seceding states clearly said their reason for seceding was to "defend slavery." Go read them, and cast off your ignorance. http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/primarysources/declarationofcauses.html Today they would be called "talking points". It was a very good excuse to justify seceding from the Union. You seem to like to ignore any evidence, including what leaders like Lincoln actually *said*. |
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On 4/19/16 12:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/19/2016 8:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On 4/19/2016 7:35 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On 4/19/2016 12:44 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article FPKdnckyYI1-ZonKnZ2dnUU7- , says... According to you and BOA, there was only *one* reason for the Civil War ... slavery. I'm still waiting for your history text recomendations that say otherwise. I have no idea why you think the Civil War would have occurred but for slavery. It makes no sense. Maybe in searching for text to support your view, you will be enlightened. At least you haven't suggested that blacks were better off being enslaved, as did Greg. Rather than a book (that I doubt you would read) here's a couple of rational discussions on the conventional wisdom that the Civil War was just about slavery: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/slavery-and-the-civil-war_b_849066.html http://www.globalresearch.ca/falsifying-history-on-behalf-of-agendas-us-civil-war-was-about-money-not-slavery/5464841 I read these unconvincing arguments by a neurophysiologist and an economist. I prefer historians. One example: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military-jan-june11- civilwar_04-12/ But I can't tell you where to get your information. I never bought into other reasons for the war, because they go against facts. No, they go against what you read in Social Studies class in the sixth grade. That's very doubtful. Since I had sixth grade in the '50's, they were still spouting your rubbish "ideas." "Slavery" became the talking point issue but there were many more pressing reasons that 11 states elected to secede from the Union. The war was fought to prevent them from seceding. In those days state citizenship was much more important than being a citizen of the nation. The 11 southern states felt the federal government was becoming too intrusive and wanted no part of it. Abolitionism, led by the newly founded Republican Party was only one of many bitches. Lincoln himself was far from being a true abolitionist even though he led the Republican movement. Don't be obtuse. The legislatures of the seceding states clearly said their reason for seceding was to "defend slavery." Go read them, and cast off your ignorance. http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/primarysources/declarationofcauses.html Today they would be called "talking points". It was a very good excuse to justify seceding from the Union. You seem to like to ignore any evidence, including what leaders like Lincoln actually *said*. The "declaration of causes" is pretty good evidence. Like everyone else, Lincoln said lots of things. |
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