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Happy birthday, John Herring...
On 4/19/16 8:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/19/2016 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 4/19/16 6:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/19/2016 12:44 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article FPKdnckyYI1-ZonKnZ2dnUU7- , says... According to you and BOA, there was only *one* reason for the Civil War ... slavery. I'm still waiting for your history text recomendations that say otherwise. I have no idea why you think the Civil War would have occurred but for slavery. It makes no sense. Maybe in searching for text to support your view, you will be enlightened. At least you haven't suggested that blacks were better off being enslaved, as did Greg. Rather than a book (that I doubt you would read) here's a couple of rational discussions on the conventional wisdom that the Civil War was just about slavery: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/slavery-and-the-civil-war_b_849066.html http://www.globalresearch.ca/falsifying-history-on-behalf-of-agendas-us-civil-war-was-about-money-not-slavery/5464841 Slavery and the many issues attached to it, including economics, were the cause and rationale for the Civil War. History revisionists and apologists don't like to acknowledge the fact that at times in its history, the United States was no better than many other countries in its treatment of people of color. It's the same sort of argument you get from Christian apologists who claim the horrors committed in the name of that religion were somehow less horrible than the horrors committed in the name of other religions. Posit: If there had been no slavery in the South, there would have been no Civil War. We will never know. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation didn't end slavery. He made exceptions. He even publicly stated that blacks should not have the full citizenship rights of whites. There were many reasons for the Civil War. Abolishing slavery is a simple and convenient explanation but it isn't the full story. It was really seeded in state's rights as interpreted by the south and the feeling that the federal government was becoming too intrusive. There have been many books written and discussions held about the causes of the Civil War. Some years ago, PBS had such a discussion that produced the following comments. From the PBS site: Drew Gilpin Faust: (President, Harvard University): "Historians are pretty united on the cause of the Civil War being slavery." Walter Edgar (Professor of History, University of South Carolina): "the 169 men who voted to secede first from the Union said, in their declaration of causes, that it was ... [to] protect slavery and their other domestic institutions ... and the men of 1860 and 1861 in other Southern states were pretty blunt about what they were doing [also]" Edna Medford (Professor of History, Howard University: "there was that .... Southern perspective about the war: 'We may have lost the war, but .... it was such a noble cause for which we fight' ... now, to take that position, you're sort of on the fringes of historiography." Slavery was the major cause of the Civil War. And as Gary Stein put it, the "States' Rights" that people talk about as an alternative cause were first and foremost about allowing states to perpetuate the institution of slavery. |
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