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This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:28:48 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:43:33 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 5:06:05 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: Quiet counts when shooting zombies. Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise. ;) The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator. Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally, I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3 years. They did NOT run happily, though... Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online, though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an insanely fun (and cheap) plinker. Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing. Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care what you feed it. :) That's what I like about my SR9. I have a Ruger Mark III with a threaded barrel. Not many rounds through it, but so far it appears to be a good zombie gun as well. The Burris Fastfire 3 on it is sweet! I keep telling myself I don't need a Ruger Mark III. I think I'm losing. Seems like 'the Hunter' would be a great zombie gun. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! I didn't technically get a Mark III. I actually got this one with the two picatinny rails. http://www.ruger.com/products/2245ThreadedBarrel/models.html I was going to ask how you mounted the Burris fastfire on the mark III. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
This one should piss off the gun ninnies
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This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:40:31 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:28:48 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:43:33 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 5:06:05 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: Quiet counts when shooting zombies. Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise. ;) The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator. Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally, I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3 years. They did NOT run happily, though... Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online, though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an insanely fun (and cheap) plinker. Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing. Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care what you feed it. :) That's what I like about my SR9. I have a Ruger Mark III with a threaded barrel. Not many rounds through it, but so far it appears to be a good zombie gun as well. The Burris Fastfire 3 on it is sweet! I keep telling myself I don't need a Ruger Mark III. I think I'm losing. Seems like 'the Hunter' would be a great zombie gun. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! I didn't technically get a Mark III. I actually got this one with the two picatinny rails. http://www.ruger.com/products/2245ThreadedBarrel/models.html I was going to ask how you mounted the Burris fastfire on the mark III. === I have a Mark III Hunter with the fluted barrel. When I bought it the top of the barrel was already drilled, tapped and fitted with filler screws. All I had to do was back out the fillers and install a small piece of Weaver rail. I assume that was done at the factory and not the previous owner. |
This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:23:12 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:40:31 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:28:48 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:43:33 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 5:06:05 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: Quiet counts when shooting zombies. Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise. ;) The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator. Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally, I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3 years. They did NOT run happily, though... Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online, though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an insanely fun (and cheap) plinker. Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing. Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care what you feed it. :) That's what I like about my SR9. I have a Ruger Mark III with a threaded barrel. Not many rounds through it, but so far it appears to be a good zombie gun as well. The Burris Fastfire 3 on it is sweet! I keep telling myself I don't need a Ruger Mark III. I think I'm losing. Seems like 'the Hunter' would be a great zombie gun. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! I didn't technically get a Mark III. I actually got this one with the two picatinny rails. http://www.ruger.com/products/2245ThreadedBarrel/models.html I was going to ask how you mounted the Burris fastfire on the mark III. === I have a Mark III Hunter with the fluted barrel. When I bought it the top of the barrel was already drilled, tapped and fitted with filler screws. All I had to do was back out the fillers and install a small piece of Weaver rail. I assume that was done at the factory and not the previous owner. Just looked at the Ruger site. From the Hunter description: "Accurate sighting system features fixed or adjustable sights and drilled and tapped receiver for Weaver®-style scope base adapters for easy mounting of optics (adapters included, not on fixed sight models)." http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIIHunter/models.html Good to know. Thanks. Now, is the fancy grip worth $70? It is nice looking. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:25:25 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:45:09 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:51:38 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:28:08 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:46:17 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 6:43:49 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/8/16 5:06 PM, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: Quiet counts when shooting zombies. Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise. ;) The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator. Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally, I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3 years. They did NOT run happily, though... Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online, though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an insanely fun (and cheap) plinker. Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing. Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care what you feed it. :) That's what I like about my SR9. The M&P 15-22 is a fine, fun rifle. I had one for about two years. A silencer and subsonic ammo will fire quietly, as far as the ammo goes, but the reciprocating parts of the rifle are noisy. I sold mine to buy a bolt action CZ 455... *very quiet* with the silencer attached. :) But slow. A zombie will bite you while cycling the bolt. And 5 rounds won't stop a zombie crew. :) if you're going to use a rifle for zombies, you'd better get one that'll carry a bayonet. I guess my M1A qualifies and I imagine I can also mount a rifle grenade launcher but I have never actually seen one. If we wanted to send explosives down range on the ship, we would use our 5" gun. Out to about 17,000 yards, with the right projectile, it will take out every zombie in about a 25 meter radius, wound a bunch more a tad farther out You'd have to do an air burst. We had the VT fuses for 105 howitzers back when, but don't know if the 5" guns had them. That way you'd get 'em in the heads. Yup, the VT fuse was developed in WWII and it was originally designed for shooting at airplanes, trying to get better than one hit per 100-200 rounds fired. I am amazed they did that well considering they set the time delay manually using a mechanical computer you wound up with a key before they actually got the round loaded. I was in the Fire Direction Control center for an artillery battery. One of our last demos for the brass before the 196th Light Infantry Brigade deployed was a time-on-target air burst of the entire battalion's guns - 18 105's. The calculations were extensive and had to be done by hand then - no computers (1966). I didn't get to see the results, but my lieutenant said it was spectacular. Eighteen rounds going off within a few seconds of each other from about 10 to 50 yards above the target. The batteries (3) shot from different locations also. I would like to have seen it. Saw a demo at Ft. Sill before graduating there - hell of a sight, and that was an 8-inch battery. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 15:07:40 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:23:12 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:40:31 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:28:48 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:43:33 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 5:06:05 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: Quiet counts when shooting zombies. Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise. ;) The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator. Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally, I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3 years. They did NOT run happily, though... Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online, though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an insanely fun (and cheap) plinker. Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing. Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care what you feed it. :) That's what I like about my SR9. I have a Ruger Mark III with a threaded barrel. Not many rounds through it, but so far it appears to be a good zombie gun as well. The Burris Fastfire 3 on it is sweet! I keep telling myself I don't need a Ruger Mark III. I think I'm losing. Seems like 'the Hunter' would be a great zombie gun. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! I didn't technically get a Mark III. I actually got this one with the two picatinny rails. http://www.ruger.com/products/2245ThreadedBarrel/models.html I was going to ask how you mounted the Burris fastfire on the mark III. === I have a Mark III Hunter with the fluted barrel. When I bought it the top of the barrel was already drilled, tapped and fitted with filler screws. All I had to do was back out the fillers and install a small piece of Weaver rail. I assume that was done at the factory and not the previous owner. Just looked at the Ruger site. From the Hunter description: "Accurate sighting system features fixed or adjustable sights and drilled and tapped receiver for Weaver®-style scope base adapters for easy mounting of optics (adapters included, not on fixed sight models)." http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIIHunter/models.html Good to know. Thanks. Now, is the fancy grip worth $70? It is nice looking. === Mine came with fancy grips but I replaced them with Hogue rubber target grips - not beautiful but very functional. |
This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 15:14:33 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:25:25 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:45:09 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:51:38 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:28:08 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:46:17 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 6:43:49 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/8/16 5:06 PM, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: Quiet counts when shooting zombies. Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise. ;) The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator. Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally, I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3 years. They did NOT run happily, though... Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online, though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an insanely fun (and cheap) plinker. Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing. Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care what you feed it. :) That's what I like about my SR9. The M&P 15-22 is a fine, fun rifle. I had one for about two years. A silencer and subsonic ammo will fire quietly, as far as the ammo goes, but the reciprocating parts of the rifle are noisy. I sold mine to buy a bolt action CZ 455... *very quiet* with the silencer attached. :) But slow. A zombie will bite you while cycling the bolt. And 5 rounds won't stop a zombie crew. :) if you're going to use a rifle for zombies, you'd better get one that'll carry a bayonet. I guess my M1A qualifies and I imagine I can also mount a rifle grenade launcher but I have never actually seen one. If we wanted to send explosives down range on the ship, we would use our 5" gun. Out to about 17,000 yards, with the right projectile, it will take out every zombie in about a 25 meter radius, wound a bunch more a tad farther out You'd have to do an air burst. We had the VT fuses for 105 howitzers back when, but don't know if the 5" guns had them. That way you'd get 'em in the heads. Yup, the VT fuse was developed in WWII and it was originally designed for shooting at airplanes, trying to get better than one hit per 100-200 rounds fired. I am amazed they did that well considering they set the time delay manually using a mechanical computer you wound up with a key before they actually got the round loaded. I was in the Fire Direction Control center for an artillery battery. One of our last demos for the brass before the 196th Light Infantry Brigade deployed was a time-on-target air burst of the entire battalion's guns - 18 105's. The calculations were extensive and had to be done by hand then - no computers (1966). I didn't get to see the results, but my lieutenant said it was spectacular. Eighteen rounds going off within a few seconds of each other from about 10 to 50 yards above the target. The batteries (3) shot from different locations also. I would like to have seen it. Saw a demo at Ft. Sill before graduating there - hell of a sight, and that was an 8-inch battery. The "computer" was really a pretty crude thing, working on gears and cams. All you really got on the radar was range and you computed speed with a stop watch, then put all of that into the computer with dials and it gave you a fuse time with a load time offset. That gets relayed to the fuse setter who dials up the delay, they loaded and fired. All of this happens while the plane is closing in on you. Not stressful at all ;-) I suspect that in the heat of battle, they didn't use it at all. They just put in a typical delay and fired, just to keep the rate of fire up to the max. If the gunner had a pretty good idea when the shell was going off he just used Kentucky windage and fired when he thought the time was right. I know our GM-1 "killed" a F4 phantom at the Gitmo exercises that was flying at about double the speed our equipment was rated for, using the same method. |
This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 3:07:30 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:23:12 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:40:31 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:28:48 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:43:33 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 5:06:05 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: On 3/8/2016 1:21 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-5, Ryan P. wrote: Quiet counts when shooting zombies. Exactly. Everyone knows a zombie is attracted to noise. ;) The Walking Dead is entertaining, but there are considerable gaps in the plot. 3-4 year old gas just seems to happily run. And it took forever for them to start using suppressed AR's. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .22 on the show. A suppressed .22 would be a perfect zombie eliminator. Yeah, the gas thing usually makes me chuckle. Although, anecdotally, I have seen gas weed-eaters that were not drained start after about 3 years. They did NOT run happily, though... Your average .22 doesn't look impressive enough for a post-apocalyptic TV show... that's probably why we don't see them. If you look online, though, you can see a lot of manufacturers that make a .22 in an AR-like configuration. I've been tempted to buy one. Seems like it would be an insanely fun (and cheap) plinker. Absolutely. S&W M&P 15/22. Eats anything thrown at it, tons of fun, can be made very quiet if that's your thing. Ahh.. the key to surviving any apocalypse. A gun that doesn't care what you feed it. :) That's what I like about my SR9. I have a Ruger Mark III with a threaded barrel. Not many rounds through it, but so far it appears to be a good zombie gun as well. The Burris Fastfire 3 on it is sweet! I keep telling myself I don't need a Ruger Mark III. I think I'm losing. Seems like 'the Hunter' would be a great zombie gun. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! I didn't technically get a Mark III. I actually got this one with the two picatinny rails. http://www.ruger.com/products/2245ThreadedBarrel/models.html I was going to ask how you mounted the Burris fastfire on the mark III. === I have a Mark III Hunter with the fluted barrel. When I bought it the top of the barrel was already drilled, tapped and fitted with filler screws. All I had to do was back out the fillers and install a small piece of Weaver rail. I assume that was done at the factory and not the previous owner. Just looked at the Ruger site. From the Hunter description: "Accurate sighting system features fixed or adjustable sights and drilled and tapped receiver for Weaver®-style scope base adapters for easy mounting of optics (adapters included, not on fixed sight models)." http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIIHunter/models.html Good to know. Thanks. Now, is the fancy grip worth $70? It is nice looking. -- Yup. And if you go with a Burris sight, they have dedicated mounts for the Mark III. They do make some really nice looking Mark III's. I already have a more traditional Mark I that I shot when I was a kid with my father. I wanted the unique features the 22/45 had. |
This one should piss off the gun ninnies
On 3/9/16 3:14 PM, John H. wrote:
I was in the Fire Direction Control center for an artillery battery. One of our last demos for the brass before the 196th Light Infantry Brigade deployed was a time-on-target air burst of the entire battalion's guns - 18 105's. The calculations were extensive and had to be done by hand then - no computers (1966). I didn't get to see the results, but my lieutenant said it was spectacular. Eighteen rounds going off within a few seconds of each other from about 10 to 50 yards above the target. The batteries (3) shot from different locations also. I would like to have seen it. Saw a demo at Ft. Sill before graduating there - hell of a sight, and that was an 8-inch battery. -- Boys and their toys... |
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