On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 5:58:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:15:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/4/16 4:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:13:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

1977. Almost 40 years ago. Things have changed a bit.


From Harry's county web site
"Property owners may construct their own dwelling on their own
property without a license (with proper permits). "

Since these are generally state law, I am sure I could do it in PG
too. I do agree, the process is more complicated these days but that
is what happens when the government gets to be out of control. The
inspection process has not changed much and that is where safety comes
in.



Why is the government out of control? The electrician and plumber who
did my genny got their permits without delays or difficulties, and the
inspectors came out in short order.

I simply what qualifies for a fast tracked (while you wait) on the
Calvert County web site. They are really just for things that should
not really need one anyway. (sheds, decks etc) At a certain point it
is just a building tax.
Permits here are tougher than they are in Maryland but it is mostly
just corporate welfare, benefitting people with a large compliance
department over the small guy. That is true of most government
regulation tho. If you can send a bunch of lawyers and some carefully
targeted campaign contributions, regulation really does not apply to
you.

And permits are just vehicles to let the tax man know that you are improving the property. So they can up your tax bill in the next cycle.

On 3/4/2016 8:35 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 5:58:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:15:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/4/16 4:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:13:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

1977. Almost 40 years ago. Things have changed a bit.


From Harry's county web site
"Property owners may construct their own dwelling on their own
property without a license (with proper permits). "

Since these are generally state law, I am sure I could do it in PG
too. I do agree, the process is more complicated these days but that
is what happens when the government gets to be out of control. The
inspection process has not changed much and that is where safety comes
in.



Why is the government out of control? The electrician and plumber who
did my genny got their permits without delays or difficulties, and the
inspectors came out in short order.

I simply what qualifies for a fast tracked (while you wait) on the
Calvert County web site. They are really just for things that should
not really need one anyway. (sheds, decks etc) At a certain point it
is just a building tax.
Permits here are tougher than they are in Maryland but it is mostly
just corporate welfare, benefitting people with a large compliance
department over the small guy. That is true of most government
regulation tho. If you can send a bunch of lawyers and some carefully
targeted campaign contributions, regulation really does not apply to
you.

And permits are just vehicles to let the tax man know that you are improving the property. So they can up your tax bill in the next cycle.



rec.boats is certainly full of fascinating outlooks on many subjects.

I have a pretty fair knowledge of electrical power distribution but I am
far from being an electrician. When it comes to *major* electrical
installations in my house I hire an electrician who is current on the
codes. Many things that have changed since knob and tube wiring. :-)

On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 21:50:35 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


rec.boats is certainly full of fascinating outlooks on many subjects.

I have a pretty fair knowledge of electrical power distribution but I am
far from being an electrician. When it comes to *major* electrical
installations in my house I hire an electrician who is current on the
codes. Many things that have changed since knob and tube wiring. :-)

You guys are on the 14 code so there are lots of changes, just since
the 11.
Most of the stuff around the service really hasn't changed much since
the Clinton administration and the biggest changes were no more 3 wire
dryer/range plugs and 4 wire feeders to your out buildings.
As Phil Simmonds said in the proposal, the war is over, we don't need
to save the copper.
The big ongoing changes are around GFCIs and AFCIs. In the 14 you have
very few places that do not require an AFCI.
There are also required tamper resistant receptacles damn near
everywhere and weather resistant receptacles outside. That is probably
the most important for the weekend warrior if you want to stay
compliant.
There are a number of publications every cycle about significant
changes. This is a free one (the PP slides for a presentation I
attended)

http://www.necanet.org/docs/default-...f.pdf?sfvrsn=0

On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 17:35:35 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 5:58:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:15:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/4/16 4:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:13:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

1977. Almost 40 years ago. Things have changed a bit.


From Harry's county web site
"Property owners may construct their own dwelling on their own
property without a license (with proper permits). "

Since these are generally state law, I am sure I could do it in PG
too. I do agree, the process is more complicated these days but that
is what happens when the government gets to be out of control. The
inspection process has not changed much and that is where safety comes
in.



Why is the government out of control? The electrician and plumber who
did my genny got their permits without delays or difficulties, and the
inspectors came out in short order.

I simply what qualifies for a fast tracked (while you wait) on the
Calvert County web site. They are really just for things that should
not really need one anyway. (sheds, decks etc) At a certain point it
is just a building tax.
Permits here are tougher than they are in Maryland but it is mostly
just corporate welfare, benefitting people with a large compliance
department over the small guy. That is true of most government
regulation tho. If you can send a bunch of lawyers and some carefully
targeted campaign contributions, regulation really does not apply to
you.

And permits are just vehicles to let the tax man know that you are improving the property. So they can up your tax bill in the next cycle.

Around here, taxes are not really dependent on permits. I have done a
few things without a permit but it still showed up promptly on my
taxes. They look at aerials every year and do an on site inspection
about every 2 years. They don't really do the inspections sequentially
by address so they may be there to look at your neighbor's house but
they still may take a peek at yours.