#46
 

On 2/28/2016 7:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:51:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Kimber is a non-issue for me. I can't legally buy one even if I wanted
one. *All* Kimber handguns are banned in Massachusetts.

http://fsguns.com/fsg_information.html

===

What prevents you from buying elsewhere and bringing it back home?



If I weren't such a law abiding citizen I could. :-)
I can't do that legally in MA. If caught with it, there goes
my gun permit and technically could be subject to fines or prosecution.

Can't order one from out of state and have it shipped and transferred
to my by a FFL either. All Kimbers are simply illegal to own here
unless they were made before 1998 and only *if* they were
always in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

I know. It's crazy. But them's the rules here.

#46
 

Tim wrote:
On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 4:51:35 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/28/2016 1:01 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 12:35:00 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 06:08:32 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:35:59 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:43:31 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:25:27 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, Alex wrote:

I just picked up a new Ruger SR40C for the car. Got the stainless
version so I don't have to oil the hell out of it for that environment.
The trigger is _smoooth_ for a striker-fired gun. It's an affordable .40
cal that I hope to not have to use other than at the range. They make a
9mm version for the same price.

http://ruger.com/products/sr40c/specSheets/3476.html

I'm wishing I'd waited for this to come out rather than get
the Sig P938. This is a
sweet gun:

http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro-9?___SID=U

Comes in a .380 also.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

That's a nice looking gun! I have large hands so a short, single-stack
like that might be hard to control for me.

Kimber does sell an extended magazine which gives a little
better grip. I bought one
for the Sig P938. Big help, and an extra round.

Have you heard if Kimber has returned to their legendary build quality?
I've heard and read that it had suffered a bit but that was maybe four
years ago.
Except from Harry, I've not heard anything bad about Kimbers.
This is my Kimber .45:

http://www.kimberamerica.com/tactical-custom-hd-ii-a

I love it. It's the best shooting gun I have...smoothest by far.
I like the Sig 226,
but I can't shoot it as well as the Kimber. Then again, the Sig
holds twice as many
rounds, so I need to shoot it only half as
well...right?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

If you search "Kimber quality" you will see a lot of results. The time
frames vary, as do the opinions, but the consensus seems to be that they
had problems and fixed them. If any problems did exist they could have
been limited to a few designs. Harry's opinion is worthless and usually
unfounded.
Having owned 3 Kimbers I can say I've never had an issue with any of
them. I did have one jam, but it was my own fault. It needed cleaned
badly. otherwise...

Others I know who own Kimber arms regardless of what model or caliber
haven't had an issue with theirs either.

Maybe some people just like to gripe and look at the worst in everything.


That's certainly true. I wanted a Kimber 1911 and, at the time, was
advised to not purchase one (by a trusted shop) and I found reviews
supporting that. It was 8-10 years ago so that this what lead to my
question to John.

Could be.There may havebeen some

On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:35:59 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:43:31 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:25:27 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, Alex wrote:

I just picked up a new Ruger SR40C for the car. Got the stainless
version so I don't have to oil the hell out of it for that environment.
The trigger is _smoooth_ for a striker-fired gun. It's an affordable .40
cal that I hope to not have to use other than at the range. They make a
9mm version for the same price.

http://ruger.com/products/sr40c/specSheets/3476.html

I'm wishing I'd waited for this to come out rather than get
the Sig P938. This is a
sweet gun:

http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro-9?___SID=U

Comes in a .380 also.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

That's a nice looking gun! I have large hands so a short, single-stack
like that might be hard to control for me.

Kimber does sell an extended magazine which gives a little
better grip. I bought one
for the Sig P938. Big help, and an extra round.

Have you heard if Kimber has returned to their legendary build quality?
I've heard and read that it had suffered a bit but that was maybe four
years ago.
Except from Harry, I've not heard anything bad about Kimbers.
This is my Kimber .45:

http://www.kimberamerica.com/tactical-custom-hd-ii-a

I love it. It's the best shooting gun I have...smoothest by far.
I like the Sig 226,
but I can't shoot it as well as the Kimber. Then again, the Sig
holds twice as many
rounds, so I need to shoot it only half as
well...right?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

If you search "Kimber quality" you will see a lot of results. The time
frames vary, as do the opinions, but the consensus seems to be that they
had problems and fixed them. If any problems did exist they could have
been limited to a few designs. Harry's opinion is worthless and usually
unfounded.
Having owned 3 Kimbers I can say I've never had an issue with any of
them. I did have one jam, but it was my own fault. It needed cleaned
badly. otherwise...

Others I know who own Kimber arms regardless of what model or caliber
haven't had an issue with theirs either.

Maybe some people just like to gripe and look at the worst in everything.


That's certainly true. I wanted a Kimber 1911 and, at the time, was
advised to not purchase one (by a trusted shop) and I found reviews
supporting that. It was 8-10 years ago so that this what lead to my
question to John.

Could be. There could have been some QC issues I wasn't aware of and
maybe I got 3 good out of 4, But I'm simply saying that out of the
Kimbers I've had, I had no reason to complain about them at all.

==
I put some rounds through a loaner Kimber once and thought it was a
fine gun. It would be high up on my list if looking for a new 45.

And if Krause owned one they'd be the best guns in the world.
--


Nope. Lots of problems with limbers and I have no use for a semiauto .45
ACP.



Kimber is a non-issue for me. I can't legally buy one even if I wanted
one. *All* Kimber handguns are banned in Massachusetts.

http://fsguns.com/fsg_information.html

That sucks, Richard.


Definitely not New Hampshire r at least their motto.

#46
 

7:31 PMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
If I weren't such a law abiding citizen I could. :-)
I can't do that legally in MA. If caught with it, there goes
my gun permit and technically could be subject to fines or prosecution.

Can't order one from out of state and have it shipped and transferred
to my by a FFL either. All Kimbers are simply illegal to own here
unless they were made before 1998 and only *if* they were
always in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

I know. It's crazy. But them's the rules here.
---

Moving out of state can cure that...

#46
 

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:31:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/28/2016 7:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:51:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Kimber is a non-issue for me. I can't legally buy one even if I wanted
one. *All* Kimber handguns are banned in Massachusetts.

http://fsguns.com/fsg_information.html

===

What prevents you from buying elsewhere and bringing it back home?



If I weren't such a law abiding citizen I could. :-)
I can't do that legally in MA. If caught with it, there goes
my gun permit and technically could be subject to fines or prosecution.

Can't order one from out of state and have it shipped and transferred
to my by a FFL either. All Kimbers are simply illegal to own here
unless they were made before 1998 and only *if* they were
always in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

I know. It's crazy. But them's the rules here.


Sort of flies in the face of claims that they only want "reasonable"
gun laws.
What makes a Kimber any worse than any other .45 pistol?

#46
 

On 2/29/2016 1:21 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:31:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/28/2016 7:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:51:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Kimber is a non-issue for me. I can't legally buy one even if I wanted
one. *All* Kimber handguns are banned in Massachusetts.

http://fsguns.com/fsg_information.html

===

What prevents you from buying elsewhere and bringing it back home?



If I weren't such a law abiding citizen I could. :-)
I can't do that legally in MA. If caught with it, there goes
my gun permit and technically could be subject to fines or prosecution.

Can't order one from out of state and have it shipped and transferred
to my by a FFL either. All Kimbers are simply illegal to own here
unless they were made before 1998 and only *if* they were
always in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

I know. It's crazy. But them's the rules here.


Sort of flies in the face of claims that they only want "reasonable"
gun laws.
What makes a Kimber any worse than any other .45 pistol?


They either don't pass the MA safety tests, meet the AG requirements or
Kimber refuses to submit any to the state for compliance testing.

#46
 

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:53:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Sort of flies in the face of claims that they only want "reasonable"
gun laws.
What makes a Kimber any worse than any other .45 pistol?


They either don't pass the MA safety tests, meet the AG requirements or
Kimber refuses to submit any to the state for compliance testing.

===

My guess is the latter. Kimber can already sell everything they make
so why waste production assets on stupid states with stupid rules.

#46
 

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 9:10:44 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:53:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Sort of flies in the face of claims that they only want "reasonable"
gun laws.
What makes a Kimber any worse than any other .45 pistol?


They either don't pass the MA safety tests, meet the AG requirements or
Kimber refuses to submit any to the state for compliance testing.

===

My guess is the latter. Kimber can already sell everything they make
so why waste production assets on stupid states with stupid rules.

I was thinking the same thing. Kimber has high sales volume and I can't see them making a 'special' model to satisfy an angry state's resterictions just to sell a few.

#46
 

On 2/29/2016 10:10 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:53:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Sort of flies in the face of claims that they only want "reasonable"
gun laws.
What makes a Kimber any worse than any other .45 pistol?


They either don't pass the MA safety tests, meet the AG requirements or
Kimber refuses to submit any to the state for compliance testing.

===

My guess is the latter. Kimber can already sell everything they make
so why waste production assets on stupid states with stupid rules.


You are probably correct. There are other handgun manufacturers who
have basically told MA to "stuff it".

#46
 

On 2/29/2016 10:17 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 9:10:44 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:53:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Sort of flies in the face of claims that they only want "reasonable"
gun laws.
What makes a Kimber any worse than any other .45 pistol?


They either don't pass the MA safety tests, meet the AG requirements or
Kimber refuses to submit any to the state for compliance testing.

===

My guess is the latter. Kimber can already sell everything they make
so why waste production assets on stupid states with stupid rules.

I was thinking the same thing. Kimber has high sales volume and I can't see them making a 'special' model to satisfy an angry state's resterictions just to sell a few.



Good thing I am not a "gun nut", huh? :-)

#46
 

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/28/2016 7:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:51:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Kimber is a non-issue for me. I can't legally buy one even if I wanted
one. *All* Kimber handguns are banned in Massachusetts.

http://fsguns.com/fsg_information.html

===

What prevents you from buying elsewhere and bringing it back home?



If I weren't such a law abiding citizen I could. :-)
I can't do that legally in MA. If caught with it, there goes
my gun permit and technically could be subject to fines or prosecution.

Can't order one from out of state and have it shipped and transferred
to my by a FFL either. All Kimbers are simply illegal to own here
unless they were made before 1998 and only *if* they were
always in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

I know. It's crazy. But them's the rules here.




It is about money or some missing "feature" on the gun itself?